Cristiano Ronaldo (172 Viewers)

[zizinho]

Nah man, Griezzman never played anywhere the level of Messi last year. And he will never play like that, because he can´t.

Yes, he won the world Cup with France, but the year has 60+- games. And Messi played circles with everybody through the year.


I tell you, if Messi never existed, and a new player named Cuccittini played last year like Leo did, no one would be able to speak of any other thing. He would be THE MAN.

Same thing for a new player called Aveiro in a world in which CR7 never existed.


But they have become kind of repetitive, and the ones that gives the individual trophys have taken the opportunity to change things a bit.

but the problem with your argument is, there are different competitions, some more some less important. the 2 most important ones, CL and WC, do you honestly think Messi had a big year like Ronaldo, Salah or Griezmann? people say Griezmann went out in the group stage, but that was in 2017, so not relevant at all. the only thing that matters is the calendar year 2018, in which Griezmann won the UEL (was named best player), WC and was 2nd in La Liga. scored 32 goals with 15 assists during the year as well. while youre right about Messi being individually great all the time, your play also needs to translate into winning (WC/CL > League > EL/other int. comp. > Nat. Cups, by importance), and winning players should always get the advantage over losing ones, unless the difference is too big to ignore

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He didnt take them by himself but he was the standout player in the competition...
at Real he was very important along with Marcelo and Ronaldo
as for this year - Yeah he is way below par..

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Well Varane should be on top of the defenders list but for a defender to win it he needs to be really really special..
IMO the top trio should have been Modric Ronaldo and Salah who gave a great season last year (put aside the WC in which he plays for Egypt..)

so you watched the WC and think Modric was their standout player? havent been paying attention to other Croatia players, have you?
you put him along with Marcelo and Ronaldo during this year for Madrid? discussion over, you clearly didnt even watch Real

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I mostly argued the balon d'or in the past to rile up the midget fanbois. When HGH Leo isn't even in the conversation it's much less fun.

i miss @Nedved96 with his Pepe for balon dor argument

tho that one still made more sense than Modric

 

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[Snobist]

To simplify was Modric’s success was getting Croatia in final (and getting humiliated) because his team were underdogs. Then Salah should have won Uefa player of the year because Liverpool went to finals as underdogs. It’s clear Modric is overrated and his magic has disappeared since Ronaldo left Madrid, on the onther hand Ronaldo keeps on being the best. I must say Ronaldo was robbed and it sucks for him.
If you see the stats Modric wasnt spectacular for Croatia. Perisic was involved in most of Croatia’s goals after group stages.

 

[zizinho]

Messi in 2014 was more important for Argentina than Modric for Croatia this summer (and we argued here about Messi getting the WC best player award undeservedly, since he produced very little after the group stage), yet he wasnt favorite for balon dor. excluding the world cup, would you say Modric in 2018 had a better year than Messi in 2014?

 

[Snobist]

Messi in 2014 was more important for Argentina than Modric for Croatia this summer (and we argued here about Messi getting the WC best player award undeservedly, since he produced very little after the group stage), yet he wasnt favorite for balon dor. excluding the world cup, would you say Modric in 2018 had a better year than Messi in 2014?

Messi in 2018 was better than Modric in 2018. It’s very simple a team with Messi any year is a better team, than a team with Modric.

 

[Stephan]

Messi was injured half a season in 2014 for Barca. Tata Martino even subbed him off against Atletico in CL midgame. I dont think Messi influenced Arg much. Its not like he influenced the game like Maradona or Baggio if we talk individual performances in tournaments. He might have scored against smaller sides like what was it Iran and Belgium but went missing against Netherlands and Germwny. People rave about Higuain but why didnt Messi take things into his own hands like he does at Barca? Why didnt Messi just go and score individual solo goal? If im correct germans manmarked Messi and largely killed his presence. The most important players for Argentina that tournament were Mascherano and Garay. Mascherano was immense in midfield and Garay calvanized the defense.
Lets not forget Messi was the reason Tevez didnt play that World Cup. Maybe if Tevez plays instead of Higuain Arg win WC?

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Modric is better than both of them.

lmao this guy

 

[IliveForJuve]

It almost seems like FIFA and France Football don't want Ronaldo to have one more individual award than Messi.

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Why does anyone care about Ronaldo not winning Balon d'Or? Ronaldo wasn't even a Juventus player. Why are y'all butthurt about him not winning individual trophies for what he did at Real Madrid last season, including almost singlehandedly knocking us out of CL, and embarrassing us in Turin.

Sure, there could be an argument made that he was the best in club football last season, by some margin, but there can also be argument made for Modric, as he was a huge part of Croatia's success and big part of Madrid's as well.

Strange to be upset about this as a Juventus fan.

It's not so much about Ronaldo winning it or not. It's about Modric not deserving it all.

Ffs, the awards have been a joke this year. What the fuck is Mbappe even doing there?

 

[campionesidd]

I´m happy for Luka, but Modric wan´t even among the best ten players of the year.

Anything other than CR7, Messi and Salah as finalists is a joke.

But I understand it. They have grown tired of the two greats.

As for you Juve fans, you shouldn´t give a shit. Who cares which team has the player that has won the trophy, when you have the one that deserves it?

At the end of the day, you are still the ones that got the beast playing for you..

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Modric is better than both of them.

Madridiots are not welcome here.

 

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[Elvin]

Why does anyone care about Ronaldo not winning Balon d'Or? Ronaldo wasn't even a Juventus player. Why are y'all butthurt about him not winning individual trophies for what he did at Real Madrid last season, including almost singlehandedly knocking us out of CL, and embarrassing us in Turin.

Sure, there could be an argument made that he was the best in club football last season, by some margin, but there can also be argument made for Modric, as he was a huge part of Croatia's success and big part of Madrid's as well.

Strange to be upset about this as a Juventus fan.

Because fuckin Real takes credit for Cannavaro's Balon d'Or, that's why. We wanted to get even.

 

[petergrifindor]

Madridiots are not welcome here.

I´m gonna be here whenever I want, so deal with it.

 

[Kopanja]

watch out boys

 

[Suns]

This man is involved in literally every damn goal we score in some way or another.

Also, in Italy anyway you can clearly see how he effects people around him, they pay attention to him way more than they should which opens up the game for others like Bentancurs goal for example.

 

[Seven]

Wat?

Modric is not better than Pirlo

Modric didn't even have that great a World Cup. I think it's very odd to pick him over Ronaldo, let alone Griezmann.

But who cares really? The only important trophies in football are team trophies.

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[sgjuveboy]

Modric didn't even have that great a World Cup. I think it's very odd to pick him over Ronaldo, let alone Griezmann.

But who cares really? The only important trophies in football are team trophies.

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Exactly. Modric is a great player. But to say that he was the best footballer over the past one season is quite a stretch.

It sounds more like Real Madrid purchases this years awards rights but do not have CR7 to hand it to. Hence, they decided to groom Modric and try to bring his value up.

For f-ing sake, of Modric reall was the best player, then his market value will be in the range of 100 mill or more. Is he? No.

 

[Snobist]

Messi was injured half a season in 2014 for Barca. Tata Martino even subbed him off against Atletico in CL midgame. I dont think Messi influenced Arg much. Its not like he influenced the game like Maradona or Baggio if we talk individual performances in tournaments. He might have scored against smaller sides like what was it Iran and Belgium but went missing against Netherlands and Germwny. People rave about Higuain but why didnt Messi take things into his own hands like he does at Barca? Why didnt Messi just go and score individual solo goal? If im correct germans manmarked Messi and largely killed his presence. The most important players for Argentina that tournament were Mascherano and Garay. Mascherano was immense in midfield and Garay calvanized the defense.
Lets not forget Messi was the reason Tevez didnt play that World Cup. Maybe if Tevez plays instead of Higuain Arg win WC?

Maybe they wouldnt make it to finals. It’s hypothetical

 

[Seven]

Exactly. Modric is a great player. But to say that he was the best footballer over the past one season is quite a stretch.

It sounds more like Real Madrid purchases this years awards rights but do not have CR7 to hand it to. Hence, they decided to groom Modric and try to bring his value up.

For f-ing sake, of Modric reall was the best player, then his market value will be in the range of 100 mill or more. Is he? No.

I do believe the entire career is taken into account as well. It's not the only factor when deciding who gets the trophy, but it is a factor. So in that regard I do understand giving it to Modric.

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[Elvin]

ugh, I just hate that Del Piero never won Balon d'Or. Fuckin Owen has one ffs, who does not even have the talent in DP's left foot.

 

[JuveJay]

I'm sure Michael Owen would swap his Balon D'Or for Del Piero's career. Both got serious injuries at the same age, but because Owen's best game was reliant on accelerating off the shoulder of defenders he was essentially finished as a top level player aged 24.

 

[Mark]