Cristiano Ronaldo (199 Viewers)

[BayernFan]

? I was fine with the club moving on from Allegri in summer 2019. I didn’t like how combative and pissy he’d become with the media and thought some time off/a sabbatical would do him good. He’s one of our all time great managers, but that doesn’t mean his first spell had run its course. More so that we made disastrous choices in who to replace him with. An unprofessional loser and then a complete rookie who didn’t even have a coaching license when we hired him lol. Would have much preferred we just rejuvenate the squad for him instead of what we chose to do.

Anyways, I’m mostly just teasing you, but I disagree with your evaluation. Single games have relevance but I look at a campaign as a whole. And Madrid doesn’t win anything without Ronaldo. Did he have some bad games? Did some teams manage to shut him down and mark him out of matches? Yes. Of course. Or he’d have an incomprehensible number of goals. But once again, the point stands is that a campaign isn’t based on just the final game, and Ramos/Bale/etc don’t have a chance to come through in those games without Ronaldo carrying them on his back constantly to get there.

And just so you know, Ronaldo was playing with injury in 2014 CL later knockouts and Final.
http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/354461.html

But again for the 117th time, I said again and again he had the by far most impressive campaigns, but it was up until he played against us, he didn't really impress me in any of those two matches, I thought he became way more clutch in 2017 and 2018. Not to say he wasn't clutch the years prior, he scored very important goals against United in 2013 and against us in 2012. Luckily for us we knocked Real out on penalties that year (2012).

You know I also think/feel Lewandowski had by far the most outstanding campaign of any Bayern player in the 2019-20 season and was also the best player in Europe/the world, he was hitting goals left and right against pretty much all teams. But him being so would've meant jack shit if we lost that final against PSG. Yes he could've boast about insane numbers, but PSG would still have run away with the big ears trophy.

Ronaldo carried Ramos, Bale and the other shitheads through many times, but Ramos and Bale carried him in the last 3 games of the 2014 CL campaign

I know about him carrying an injury in the 2014 World Cup, it most definitely did hamper him.

My remarks about you and Allegri comes from you saying Juve only played one bad game under Allegri and that it was the one against Ajax. That is simply not true, you had at least a handful of bad games under him. When you have to do a lot of comebacks in the CL then it's because you fuck something completely up in the first game, (I know this from having Pep here lol), meaning Allegri certainly had his fair share of bad tactical moments.

With that said; I do rate him and think he's a quite underrated manager when we talk about the best managers out there. And I also think it was a mistake to sack him, especially when you replaced him with a moron in Sarri and there after with someone who never before managed a club in Pirlo.

I was very impressed with what Allegri did for you between 2014-17. I remember your CL campaign from 2014-15 and thought you played some quite good football, you also went head to head with Real over two legs. And after a bad start in the final against Barca you certainly gave them a run for their money. I also thought you played some great games against us in 2016.

My favorite was the 2016-17 campaign, I rewatched some of your goals and how you approached the game and thought you really should've won the CL that year. That team kinda reminded me of the 2012-13 Treble Bayern team under Don Jupp.

It was a well oiled machine where everyone knew their task and you had a fantastic team. After that final I felt Allegri started to decline as a coach and especially the 2018-19 season you had many bad games from what I remember.

Anyway this became longer than I wanted it to be, this is just how I saw it from the outside. Really liked those teams from 2014-17 under Allegri.

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You can understand his stance though. Ronaldo has made Bayern his little bitch each time they've come up against him. So can't fault him for holding a grudge against Ronaldo imo.

Where does this even come from? I'm still yet to understand why I should hold a grudge against Ronaldo, I praised him so many times now ffs.

 

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[Post Ironic]

But again for the 117th time, I said again and again he had the by far most impressive campaigns, but it was up until he played against us, he didn't really impress me in any of those two matches, I thought he became way more clutch in 2017 and 2018. Not to say he wasn't clutch the years prior, he scored very important goals against United in 2013 and against us in 2012. Luckily for us we knocked Real out on penalties that year (2012).

You know I also think/feel Lewandowski had by far the most outstanding campaign of any Bayern player in the 2019-20 season and was also the best player in Europe/the world, he was hitting goals left and right against pretty much all teams. But him being so would've meant jack shit if we lost that final against PSG. Yes he could've boast about insane numbers, but PSG would still have run away with the big ears trophy.

Ronaldo carried Ramos, Bale and the other shitheads through many times, but Ramos and Bale carried him in the last 3 games of the 2014 CL campaign

I know about him carrying an injury in the 2014 World Cup, it most definitely did hamper him.

My remarks about you and Allegri comes from you saying Juve only played one bad game under Allegri and that it was the one against Ajax. That is simply not true, you had at least a handful of bad games under him. When you have to do a lot of comebacks in the CL then it's because you fuck something completely up in the first game, (I know this from having Pep here lol), meaning Allegri certainly had his fair share of bad tactical moments.

With that said; I do rate him and think he's a quite underrated manager when we talk about the best managers out there. And I also think it was a mistake to sack him, especially when you replaced him with a moron in Sarri and there after with someone who never before managed a club in Pirlo.

I was very impressed with what Allegri did for you between 2014-17. I remember your CL campaign from 2014-15 and thought you played some quite good football, you also went head to head with Real over two legs. And after a bad start in the final against Barca you certainly gave them a run for their money. I also thought you played some great games against us in 2016.

My favorite was the 2016-17 campaign, I rewatched some of your goals and how you approached the game and thought you really should've won the CL that year. That team kinda reminded me of the 2012-13 Treble Bayern team under Don Jupp.

It was a well oiled machine where everyone knew their task and you had a fantastic team. After that final I felt Allegri started to decline as a coach and especially the 2018-19 season you had many bad games from what I remember.

Anyway this became longer than I wanted it to be, this is just how I saw it from the outside. Really liked those teams from 2014-17 under Allegri.

I didn’t say “1 bad game” under Max. I said bad knockout tie under Max. We had a few bad games in the knockouts under him. But he generally made up for it with a masterclass in the other leg. Agree with you that 2018-19 was a disaster. Ajax, we were piss poor in both legs. But I think 2017-18 was a super underrated campaign given the aging squad. We absolutely destroyed the league and domestic comp, had our best season for points, goals scored, goal differential, etc, and should really have gone through against Madrid. Dybala’s red card in the first leg made a real mess of things, as did that insane brainfart from Chiello and Buffon that gave Ronaldo his brilliant overhead kick goal. Anyways, 2018-19 was the end for that first spell. It was time.

That article and my point wasn’t about an injury in the World Cup alone. He was also playing with that same injury in SF and Final of CL in 2014. He was literally just playing the important matches at the end of that season, hoping not to cause something truly career damaging. He got lucky with that imo.

 

[LiquidPLP]

This is one scenario that I have predicted and I think it's very possible to happen.

Everyone talks about Dybala - Icardi swap but if PSG lose Mbappe to Madrid, they can't simply sign Dybala to save their faces. They'll need (and) want CR7.

 

[zizinho]

Ajax tie was bad, but we were without Chiellini both games, forcing us to play freakin Rugani with Bonucci in both. Softest defense in the history of CL knockout stages. Then we had no Cuadrado both games, no D. Costa and Mandzukic in the return leg. Full squad and we beat them and then tottenham as well. Real shame

 

[Juliano13]

It is actually most scored. Ronaldo was a brilliant free kick taker at Man United and early on at Madrid. He used to go for placement over power. Than his immense ego took over he scored one from like a mile out and decided to just blast them as hard as he could from any location. His FK record post-around 2013 is dreadful. One of the biggest jokes in football lol

Brilliant free kick taker, please.. He had a few jabulanis. Ever since they went back to regular balls he's had the conversion rate of a lower league centre back.

 

[Elvin]

There is one thing about Ronaldo that nobody can deny. He has the GOAT PR. He had millions of fanboys convinced he almost singlehandedly won all those games and titles. Even the ones he didn't play in, like the Euro final.

Even our retarded management got convinced that buying him was like buying the CL trophy itself.

A real testament to the power of his PR machine is that even after the shitshow that this Juve team has been all year, some poor suckers still believe he could bring us the trophy next year.

You do realize he literally holds all records in football right?

Guess his PR team beat all them records in his stead.

 

[Post Ironic]

Brilliant free kick taker, please.. He had a few jabulanis. Ever since they went back to regular balls he's had the conversion rate of a lower league centre back.

Nah. If you watched him at ManU, he had great technique and placement. The shift to just powering them happened later.

 

[Arcticdaly]

Nah. If you watched him at ManU, he had great technique and placement. The shift to just powering them happened later.

Your arguing with a dude that called De ligt a worse Rugani and waste of money at one point on here and Ronaldo Icardi levels of bad on the ball which is 2 of dumbest statements ever said on football forum.

 

[Juliano13]

Nah. If you watched him at ManU, he had great technique and placement. The shift to just powering them happened later.

That is just plain false. Almost all his goals for ManU are power shots taking a weird trajectory or deflections. Very few technical free kicks. He stopped scoring because those shots don't work anymore with the new balls.

 

[Juliano13]

You do realize he literally holds all records in football right?

Guess his PR team beat all them records in his stead.

All the records? Do you think you could take his balls a little deeper if you really tried?

 

[Elvin]

All the records? Do you think you could take his balls a little deeper if you really tried?

Yeah all the records. Do you not consider him the GOAT? If not who is?

 

[Juliano13]

Your arguing with a dude that called De ligt a worse Rugani and waste of money at one point on here and Ronaldo Icardi levels of bad on the ball which is 2 of dumbest statements ever said on football forum.

1. I never said a worse Rugani. That's bullshit, plus I have been saying Rugani is a non-player for a very long time. Check.
2. I had seen De Ligt play only a few times before we bought him and I was not impressed. I underestimated him and I am glad I was wrong.
3. Jury is still out on whether it was a waste of money. Our results have gotten worse since we bought him. It's obviously not his fault but there is the question of economics. Maybe it would have been wiser to get somebody like Bastoni and invest the rest of that money in the midfield. I don't know.
4. I stand by that statement about Ronaldo. If you pull your head out of his ass and watch our games you'll see. He is so easily dispossessed it's pathetic. Being Icardi level bad may be an exaggeration, but not by much, sadly. Plus, Icardi keeps it simple while your idol thinks he has bettet technique than Messi.

 

[Elvin]

1. I never said a worse Rugani. That's bullshit, plus I have been saying Rugani is a non-player for a very long time. Check.
2. I had seen De Ligt play only a few times before we bought him and I was not impressed. I underestimated him and I am glad I was wrong.
3. Jury is still out on whether it was a waste of money. Our results have gotten worse since we bought him. It's obviously not his fault but there is the question of economics. Maybe it would have been wiser to get somebody like Bastoni and invest the rest of that money in the midfield. I don't know.
4. I stand by that statement about Ronaldo. If you pull your head out of his ass and watch our games you'll see. He is so easily dispossessed it's pathetic. Being Icardi level bad may be an exaggeration, but not by much, sadly. Plus, Icardi keeps it simple while your idol thinks he has bettet technique than Messi.

Ok then right back at you: take your head out of Messi's ass.

 

[Juve92]

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[Adrian]

So from some posts from the media in other threads...ronaldo is going to play for us next season then decide where he wants to go. Again, short term planning detrimental to our financial situation.

 

[Post Ironic]

That is just plain false. Almost all his goals for ManU are power shots taking a weird trajectory or deflections. Very few technical free kicks. He stopped scoring because those shots don't work anymore with the new balls.

Nah. I disagree entirely. I watched him lots then. He put way more emphasis on placement back then. He also had nowhere near the musculature and strength then which is probably another reason he wasn’t powering the ball at the net like later on when he built his body into a tank.

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First half of the video is filled with perfectly placed free kicks to the corners of the net. Lots of power, but a lot of accuracy as well.

We haven’t seen any of that here. He hits the wall or skies them almost every time. Ridiculous to say he was never good at them and was always like this.

 

[MrMonkey]

Ironic, please my friend, CR7 is a soccer God! No critiquing the Man! How about that left footed goal in CL action off the goalie's hand into the net trying to get a come from behind win. I wish Sandro had 1/1000th the talent in his opposite foot. That said I understand and agree probably best to unload his salary since the team NEEDS are too many that CR7's brilliance can't overcome. I believe AA might have to pay 25M to say bye-bye instead of collecting it.

 

[ALC]

Most of those free kicks, he still seems to just be thunderfucking the ball into goal.

this is the guy that hit a one man wall. Idk why he’s so bad at them now, he just needs to get it past the wall and down. It’s gotta be mental at this point

 

[Nedved96]

Do you not consider him the GOAT?

No

He’s up there obviously, one of the very best of all time, but he’s not number 1.

If not who is?

 

[Bianconero81]

He's not the GOAT in my book. Feel free to disagree of course.