Cristiano Ronaldo (204 Viewers)

[james95]

Yes we will if we actually build a balanced team and dont put all eggs in one basket again, like we did with ronaldo. Sad how people tried to sugar coat it with "its ok ronaldo will fix everything", when its obvious that modern football and Champions League requires a well functioning squad in all areas to succeed.

You can have a star player and still build a balanced squad..

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Looks like he picked up a knock with that bandage on his lower right leg.

 

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[Pegi]

Yep and it's not like he's some super clinical finisher to begin with. About 10% of his shots turn in to goals.

What is the % for a clinical finisher? 20%, 30%?

If you're hungry for goals, just like forward should be you will always be taking shots that have 5% chance to succeed or even 1%. If you don't take those, you ain't a forward. If your conversion rate is 30%, you never took the shots you could have, which means you will never score many goals as those world class forwards.

 

[il brutto]

What is the % for a clinical finisher? 20%, 30%?

If you're hungry for goals, just like forward should be you will always be taking shots that have 5% chance to succeed or even 1%. If you don't take those, you ain't a forward. If your conversion rate is 30%, you never took the shots you could have, which means you will never score many goals as those world class forwards.

For Lewa it was 22% last season. Top strikers usually hover somewhere around 15-20%.

 

[Pegi]

For Lewa it was 22% last season. Top strikers usually hover somewhere around 15-20%.

How many goals he scored last season, including all competitions?

 

[il brutto]

How many goals he scored last season, including all competitions?

Lewa? 55 goals in 47 games.

 

[Pegi]

Lewa? 55 goals in 47 games.

Does that include NT?

 

[il brutto]

Does that include NT?

It doesn't, 5 in 8 for the NT. You can google this stuff if it interests you.

 

[Pegi]

It doesn't, 5 in 8 for the NT. You can google this stuff if it interests you.

It doesn't actually, i just wanted to know the total goal tally for him. If it was 22% excluding NT, what it was in NT then?

 

[il brutto]

It doesn't actually, i just wanted to know the total goal tally for him. If it was 22% excluding NT, what it was in NT then?

Don't know as I don't know where to find such stats. Apparently stats people don't find national footie interesting enough.

Also that 22% is for Bundesliga. In CL it is 27% for Lewa.

 

[Osman]

I wonder if there is a stat for how far away you are from goal when you score stat. Lewa is the best clinical pure striker right now, but its rare to find a striker who only needs to be in 5 feet from goal and gets its the ball there at all times. Rarely need to create a shot for himself. Even if he is dynamic all around player as a striker.

 

[s4tch]

I wonder if there is a stat for how far away you are from goal when you score stat. Lewa is the best clinical pure striker right now, but its rare to find a striker who only needs to be in 5 feet from goal and gets its the ball there at all times. Rarely need to create a shot for himself. Even if he is dynamic all around player as a striker.

i'm 99% sure that opta has this data as opta is able to follow games basically live, from pass to pass, with every players' position showing on the pitch (see sofascore's new feature), but i'm not sure whether someone published a similar stat. in whoscored/sofascore/squawka you can't get these stats as a regular end-user.

 

[Pegi]

Don't know as I don't know where to find such stats. Apparently stats people don't find national footie interesting enough.

Also that 22% is for Bundesliga. In CL it is 27% for Lewa.

0.625 goals per game on NT and if conversion rate is higher than 22%, does it mean he's more clinical on NT while scoring less goals per game in there?

 

[il brutto]

0.625 goals per game on NT and if conversion rate is higher than 22%, does it mean he's more clinical on NT while scoring less goals per game in there?

I don't know what his conversion rate for the NT is

 

[Pegi]

I don't know what his conversion rate for the NT is

Let's forget the %, just answer the question. If it's higher than 22% while scoring less goals per game, does it make him more clinical or not? Or, if it's less than 22% + less goals per game game, does it make Lewa "product of a system" type of a striker?

 

[il brutto]

I wonder if there is a stat for how far away you are from goal when you score stat. Lewa is the best clinical pure striker right now, but its rare to find a striker who only needs to be in 5 feet from goal and gets its the ball there at all times. Rarely need to create a shot for himself. Even if he is dynamic all around player as a striker.

Haven't seen one, but you can use the understat shot map to get somewhat of an idea.

 

[Niku]

Very interesting numbers, showing great commitment and yet each individual performance is tied to the team.
I dont know if in some scenarios of the calcuiations they add this inclusive percentages.

 

[il brutto]

Let's forget the %, just answer the question. If it's higher than 22% while scoring less goals per game, does it make him more clinical or not? Or, if it's less than 22% + less goals per game game, does it make Lewa "product of a system" type of a striker?

Obviously playing for a good team is beneficial for any striker/attacking player. I wouldn't get too caught on these Lewa numbers anyways. He had a career season last season and I'm not sure he can quite match those numbers going forward. However as I mentioned earlier usually the absolute top strikers have a conversion rate of around 15-20%.

 

[Pegi]

Obviously playing for a good team is beneficial for any striker/attacking player. I wouldn't get too caught on these Lewa numbers anyways. He had a career season last season and I'm not sure he can quite match those numbers going forward. However as I mentioned earlier usually the absolute top strikers have a conversion rate of around 15-20%.

What are the top strikers then? The ones that are scoring most goals or the ones with highest conversion rate? If we take Ronaldo as an example, he has something like 700 goals during his career so he checks all the boxes for scoring the goals. You said he has 10% conversion rate, which means he isn't top striker of the game?

So, what does it mean?

 

[il brutto]

What are the top strikers then? The ones that are scoring most goals or the ones with highest conversion rate? If we take Ronaldo as an example, he has something like 700 goals during his career so he checks all the boxes for scoring the goals. You said he has 10% conversion rate, which means he isn't top striker of the game?

So, what does it mean?

Ronaldo isn't your typical striker, he's still more of a winger that likes to move to central positions. When I talk about top strikers I mean players like Aguero, Suarez, Lewa, Kane and so on. Their conversion rate is usually somewhere around 15-20%. Ronaldo is an all time great goalscorer no one is trying to refute that. Better comparisons for Ronaldo would be players like Messi or Salah.

 

[Pegi]

Ronaldo isn't your typical striker, he's still more of a winger that likes to move to central positions. When I talk about top strikers I mean players like Aguero, Suarez, Lewa, Kane and so on. Their conversion rate is usually somewhere around 15-20%. Ronaldo is an all time great goalscorer no one is trying to refute that. Better comparisons for Ronaldo would be players like Messi or Salah.

But his conversion rate isn't considered as a super clinical, but he's an all time goalscorer? So why we're bringing up conversion rate, when it has nothing to do with goalscoring?