Cristiano Ronaldo (33 Viewers)

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No, Nevada has a statute of limitations for sexual assault offences.

This is a civil suit and at worst he'll pay compensation. The biggest harm would be to his brand, and thus, to ours.

I agree with Seven though, there is no way those statements he allegedly made are true. He'd have the worst lawyers on earth if it were.
the statute was recently extended to 20 years
 

Jem83

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Can the statute be raised retrospectively?
Highly unlikely that a newer, increased statute of limitations can be applied to crimes which had already "expired" pursuant to former statutes of limitations, but for crimes which happened before the increased statute of limitations but within the period of the former one, the newer statutes can probably be applied retroactively. Most likely, in fact.

I base this on the ruling of the US Supreme Court "Stogner v. California" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stogner_v._California). However, note that the case dealt with sexual offenses by minors and that it was a split decision (5-4), which decreases the value of the verdict somewhat when it comes to setting presedence. However, it still is the weightiest legal source in the US on the topic and it strongly suggests that the Supreme Court also in a similar case in the future would rule that it is unconstitutional to apply a raised statute of limitations period on an offense which had already expired pursuant to the former one.

Just answering this since you were wondering - Not that it has anything to do with Ronaldo's case (for now and I think ever). Mayorga has filed a civil case against Ronaldo, not a criminal one.
 

campionesidd

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Highly unlikely that a newer, increased statute of limitations can be applied to crimes which had already "expired" pursuant to former statutes of limitations, but for crimes which happened before the increased statute of limitations but within the period of the former one, the newer statutes can probably be applied retroactively. Most likely, in fact.

I base this on the ruling of the US Supreme Court "Stogner v. California" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stogner_v._California). However, note that the case dealt with sexual offenses by minors and that it was a split decision (5-4), which decreases the value of the verdict somewhat when it comes to setting presedence. However, it still is the weightiest legal source in the US on the topic and it strongly suggests that the Supreme Court also in a similar case in the future would rule that it is unconstitutional to apply a raised statute of limitations period on an offense which had already expired pursuant to the former one.

Just answering this since you were wondering - Not that it has anything to do with Ronaldo's case (for now and I think ever). Mayorga has filed a civil case against Ronaldo, not a criminal one.
I see.
I find Spiegel’s role in this very interesting. They seem to treat the allegations as proven facts, do you think it could lead them into legal issues?
 

Jem83

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I see.
I find Spiegel’s role in this very interesting. They seem to treat the allegations as proven facts, do you think it could lead them into legal issues?
There's always the possibility, but if they had good reason to believe in the validity of the documents which they currently possess as well as the side of the story presented to them by Mayorga and her attorney - in other words; if they have acted without culpability, within what's reasonable and according to ethical and professional guidelines of the journalistic profession - I don't see a lawsuit against Der Spiegel ever succeeding.

However if some of these documents are fabricated, especially the one containing Ronaldo's alleged statments from September 2009, you can bet your ass that his legal team will do their utmost to ensure that someone is gonna fry.

At this particular time your question is simply impossible to answer, as it all depends on how the case evolves and what unfolds.
 

Gaidamack

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How could the outcome of this affect Juve? If the allegations are true (the victim had put a very detailed account of what happened, and it's not far fetched that Ronaldo would do something like that), would there be public pressure on Juve to "fire" him? would that mean Juve would lose a lot of money?
 
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How could the outcome of this affect Juve? If the allegations are true (the victim had put a very detailed account of what happened, and it's not far fetched that Ronaldo would do something like that), would there be public pressure on Juve to "fire" him? would that mean Juve would lose a lot of money?
Sounds like another "Mike Tyson case" rather than Bill Cosby. After the initial reaction it will probably die down quickly.
 

Guarin-lover

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Previous posts about CR7's rape case for those who are out of the loop.



Summary

According to the in-depth investigation, there are multiple documents available to Der Spiegel, many of which are signed by Ronaldo, that prove that this **** incident happened.

In one of the documents Ronaldo is quoted saying that "She said "No" and "stop" multiple times" and that he fell on his knees after the incident, begging for forgiveness: "I'm a good guy 99% of the time, I don't know what's up with this 1%."

DER SPIEGEL is one of the, if not the highest decorated newspaper/magazine in German, maybe next to Die Süddeutsche. They played a massive part in uncovering the Football Leaks scandal in 2017 and are a very trustworthy source.

As for why she's only now coming out with this story, she lists three reasons:

1. She has a new lawyer that claims that she couldn't be sued if she speaks up about this, despite taking the money out of fear in 2009.

2. The overall climate has changed, ****-victims are trusted more ever since the MeToo campaign. It's also become more difficult for rapists to downplay claims.

3. She wants to know whether other women have also been sexually assaulted by Ronaldo.

Overall, the evidence is damning. First reports of this emerged in 2017 during the Football Leaks scandal, but back then Der Spiegel didn't succeed in getting the woman to open up about this. More evidence apparently emerged since then as well.

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This tweet is from one of the authors behind the latest DER SPIEGEL articles about CR7


Basically what it sais (rough translation/ summary):

There are 2 questionnaires

In one (from December 2009) Ronaldo answers that he did have consensual sex with her.

In the second one (from September 2009) which was send from a lawyer of Osório de Castro's chancellery to Osório and his colleagues, Ronaldo answers the question if she did scream or got loud during sex as followed: "She said stop or no several times. She said that she doesn't want to, but she has made herself available. Afterwards I apologized. But she never screamed."

More details from a Belgian article:

An American woman accuses football player Cristiano Ronaldo of having raped her.

In Der Spiegel she brings out her story. A statement from Ronaldo partly confirms her side of the story.

It is a legal battle between unequal parties: on the one hand Cristiano Ronaldo, 33, soccer world star. On the other side Kathryn Mayorga, 34, a blank sheet from Las Vegas.

Once they crossed their paths: on June 12, 2009 in a nightclub and then in apartment 57306 of the Palms-Hotel in Las Vegas.

The German weekly Der Spiegel reported last year that Mayorga accused the footballer of having raped her in the penthouse apartment. Although the footballer denies everything and says that it was sex with mutual consent, months later it came to an arrangement between the lawyers of Mayorga and Ronaldo.

He paid the woman 375,000 dollars (324,000 euros). In return, the alleged victim gave a written guarantee that she would never speak of the accusations.

She does not want to keep that promise nine years later today. She tells Der Spiegel why she breaks the silence. She also describes how she met Ronaldo, how he would have raped her, how it came to the settlement and how she suffers from the consequences of that one night in June 2009. "I never ceased to accept him and myself complain. He for what he did and for me because I signed that agreement. "

Mayorga now comes out with her story because her new lawyer, Leslie Mark Stovall, has filed a complaint against Ronaldo.

For months, Stovall, 65, studied the case. "Our complaint aims to have the settlement and the silent contract annulled," says Stovall. "Kathryn was unable to sign such an agreement because of the psychological damage she suffered as a result of the abuse. This makes the contract voidable. '

According to Stovall, Ronaldo's lawyers would have been aware of the psychological state of his client. "They used that for their purposes." The unstable state of Mayorga is also covered in e-mails from Ronaldo's lawyers.

In April of this year, a forensic psychiatrist examined Kathryn Mayorga at the request of Stovall. The professor noted that the woman suffers from post-traumatic stress and depression as' direct and exclusive consequence of sexual violence by Ronaldo '.

Record transfer

The night of the alleged rape starts in the VIP section of the Rain nightclub, in the Palms Casino Resort. Ronaldo is on holiday with his brother-in-law and his nephew. It was the summer when Ronaldo went from Manchester United to Real Madrid for the (then) record transfer amount of 94 million euros.

Kathryn Mayorga is out with a friend that evening, she says to Der Spiegel. Then someone suddenly touches her arm: Ronaldo. "He said something of: you, come with me."

Ronaldo would have laughed at her because she did not follow him right away, she says. Then he would have taken her a drink and introduced her to his entourage. They talked a little and then he would have asked her phone number. "I gave it, then he left. I thought: okay, cool. "

Ronaldo later sent her a text message, says Mayorga. The woman, her friend, Ronaldo and his group met in the lobby of the Palms, after which they went together to the apartment of Ronaldo. Some would have sat down in the jacuzzi. Ronaldo offered her swimming gear, says Mayorga.

Mayorga says she went to a bathroom to change clothes. When she was only wearing shorts, Ronaldo suddenly came in, with his sex out of his pants. "He was standing next to me and wanted me to touch his penis. He begged me: it's only for 30 seconds! I said no. Then he said that I had to put him in the mouth. What an idiot! I laughed and thought: this is a joke. This guy is so famous and he looks so good, but he's a creep. "

Ronaldo would not have left it. "At one point he said something about it: I'll let you go if you give me a kiss. And I said, okay. I kiss you, but I do not touch you. "

Kathryn Mayorga ensures she has only kissed and never touched him. But the kiss would only have made him even more horny. "He touched me everywhere, also from below and he wanted to kiss me everywhere. I pushed him away from me and said no again. "

According to Mayorga, Ronaldo did not give up and pulled her to a bedroom. "I pushed him away again. He has tried to take off my underwear. I then rolled up in a ball and tried to protect my vagina with both hands. Then he jumped on me. "She says she called" no, no, no. " But Ronaldo would have raped her anally, Kathryn Mayorga claims. Without condom, without lubricant.

Questionnaire

The next day, Mayorga goes to the police and shows them at the University Medical Center. The case was given a reference number that appears later in the settlement between Mayorga and Ronaldo. At the police, Mayorga is silent about the identity of the man who would have raped her.

She is advised by her lawyer. He advises her not to come out with the story. But Mayorga did not want to leave it for what it is: "I wanted to teach him a lesson. And I wanted him to pay the therapies that I was sure I would need them for. I never wanted to enrich myself. But I wanted to be able to look into his eyes and say what he did to me. "

From documents that the Football Leaks whistleblowing platform has passed on to Der Spiegel, it appears that Mayorga's then lawyer contacted a Ronaldo lawyer in July 2009. In the months that followed, a whole team of lawyers dealt with the accusations. They raise a hundred questions for Ronaldo, his brother-in-law and his nephew.

In that document Ronaldo receives the alias' X. 'Kathryn Mayorga is' Ms. C '.

There are multiple versions of the questionnaire. The questions remain similar, but the answers are not. In a December 2009 version, Ronaldo talks about sex with mutual consent. He also says that he did not receive any signals that she did not agree with sex, or that she felt bad afterwards.

But there is another, older version of the questionnaire. De Standaard has also been able to view that document. That questionnaire was sent by mail in September 2009. The sender is a lawyer from the office of Carlos Osório de Castro, a confidant of Ronaldo. The recipients of the e-mail were Osório de Castro and another colleague.

'No, no, no'

On the question if Ms. C (Mayorga, ed.) Would have raised, shouted or called her voice, replied X (Ronaldo, ed.):

"She said no and stop several times." She would have been lying on her side. "I pushed her past behind. It was brutal. We have not changed the position. 5/7 minutes. She said she did not want it, but she kept herself available. "And further:" She has always said no. "Do not do it. I'm not like the others. "In retrospect, I apologized." But she would not have shouted or called.

Question: Does Ms. C said something about it that the sex would have been too brutal for her? X: 'She did not complain about it being too brutal. She complained that I forced her. She did not say she would go to the police. "

Ronaldo confirms in that version of the questionnaire that Mayorga has said no more than once. And he apologized to her afterwards. There are contradictions about whether Kathryn Mayorga would have satisfied him by hand. He says yes. She says not.

He also describes a foreplay in the bathroom. He also describes the previous acquaintance in the nightclub differently than she does: the women would have asked to be in the VIP section and have drunk a lot. Phone numbers would not have been exchanged. Ronaldo would have invited the women in the club to his hotel.

Kathryn Mayorga, as Ronaldo's group of friends recalls, would not have come across as disgusted when she later came out of the room.

'Police hampered'

The testimony of Ronaldo to his lawyers is an important piece of evidence for Stovall, the new lawyer of Mayorga. The settlement that both parties concluded at the time would, according to him, have the aim of obstructing the police investigation. That's not allowed. There is no doubt that everyone has the right to defend themselves against accusations. But there is a red line: to want to hide a crime is also a crime. '

Kathryn Mayhorga has quit her job because now she says she needs all her strength. She lives in hiding and wants to be unreachable.

Ronaldo was also unreachable. In the past year and a half, Der Spiegel has given him several times the opportunity to give his version of the events of 2009. All attempts led to nothing. 'Any news about this would not be legal', a Ronaldo lawyer reported.

The police have had several contacts with Kathryn Mayorga over the past few weeks and have questioned her again. In Nevada, sexual violence never lapses if it is documented in time by the police.
Der Spiegel sports editor Christoph Winterbach provides insight on the recent Ronaldo rape allegation article.


























 

ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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How could the outcome of this affect Juve? If the allegations are true (the victim had put a very detailed account of what happened, and it's not far fetched that Ronaldo would do something like that), would there be public pressure on Juve to "fire" him? would that mean Juve would lose a lot of money?
He’s not going to go to jail, but could lose endorsements based on how big the case becomes and the final verdict.

I doubt Juve fire him as they have too much money invested in him, but if he is found guilty, it would be the right thing to do.
 

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After Calciopoli, as well as their weekly attempts to destroy Juve, I doubt that. Nowhere cuts off their nose to spite their face better than Italy, especially when it comes to Juve.
I would have thought the same but weren't Italian papers bizarrely supportive of Ronaldo when he was sent off against Valencia?
 

Jem83

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Will be interesting to see what Ronaldo's legal team has to say in the coming weeks/months. Pretty sure they are working around the clock now.
 

Juvellino

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Will be interesting to see what Ronaldo's legal team has to say in the coming weeks/months. Pretty sure they are working around the clock now.
Not a good look for Ronaldo saying “she wants to be more famous than me”. He very well may be innocent but that’s a douchey thing to say.
 

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