Cristiano Ronaldo (161 Viewers)

[zizinho]

He’s washed

The most successful club president in football history gets it

I doubt it, he'd still do great in Italy or Spain

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Id rather give Kean away for free.

Well if he didn't cost 38M I'd say the same. But you have to get some profit from him

 

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[Strickland]

I doubt it, he'd still do great in Italy or Spain

at this point in his career he's incredibly difficult to manage and I don't think there are a lot of coaches who'd be able to put him in his place and successfully integrate him into a team. Without that he's definitely a net negative, football is a team game.

 

[zizinho]

at this point in his career he's incredibly difficult to manage and I don't think there are a lot of coaches who'd be able to put him in his place and successfully integrate him into a team. Without that he's definitely a net negative, football is a team game.

I can see his very next coach doing it

 

[Bianconero81]

Fuck Rodildo. Why not bring him back, resign Fagiot and bring in Fagjinho too for good measure? Fuck that shit!

 

[zizinho]

Fuck Rodildo. Why not bring him back, resign Fagiot and bring in Fagjinho too for good measure? Fuck that shit!

Or bring him and Jorginho, and spend the money on another winger (once Di Maria runs home), 2 fullbacks, a starting CB and GK?

 

[Strickland]

I can see his very next coach doing it

the last coach that had a great relationship with Ronaldo and could manage him without drama was Zidane. afterwards there have been Allegri, Sarri, Pirlo, Solskjaer, Ragnick and Erik Ten Haag, under all of them Ronaldo has been a diva that can't be touched and none of them were able to build a high-level team with Ronaldo.

I'd only consider signing Ronaldo if someone like Zidane or Ancelotti was coming as well. if we hire Tudor or another younger coach that has 0 chance of gaining the respect of Ronaldo, signing Ronaldo is a bad bad idea.

 

[Bianconero81]

Or bring him and Jorginho, and spend the money on another winger (once Di Maria runs home), 2 fullbacks, a starting CB and GK?

No. Stop! Why do you have this obsession with regressing ageing fucksticks? You're no better than our management with this failing mindset.

 

[zizinho]

the last coach that had a great relationship with Ronaldo and could manage him without drama was Zidane. afterwards there have been Allegri, Sarri, Pirlo, Solskjaer, Ragnick and Erik Ten Haag, under all of them Ronaldo has been a diva that can't be touched and none of them were able to build a high-level team with Ronaldo.

I'd only consider signing Ronaldo if someone like Zidane or Ancelotti was coming as well. if we hire Tudor or another younger coach that has 0 chance of gaining the respect of Ronaldo, signing Ronaldo is a bad bad idea.

Well you're wrong. We weren't able to build a team because we kept signing garbage, not because of Ronaldos ego. He's still a elite goalscorer so would be an improvement

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No. Stop! Why do you have this obsession with regressing ageing fucksticks? You're no better than our management with this failing mindset.

Do you have a better plan? We are broke and our defense is in far greater need of rebuild than the midfield. And we don't have any wingers. Where do you think of getting money for all those if you're not gonna sign a short term freebie here or there? Just saying no fuck this or that player isn't really an argument, when in reality we're gonna look worse than that next season

 

[Strickland]

Well you're wrong. We weren't able to build a team because we kept signing garbage, not because of Ronaldos ego. He's still a elite goalscorer so would be an improvement

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Sure, but its worth noting that in all 3 Ronaldo seasons we went out in CL to teams with a lot more "garbage" on their rosters. Even if you consider the teams that we put together for Allegri, Sarri and Pirlo subpar, each team still failed to reach their limited potential.

It was even more evident last season for United, after signing Ronaldo they looked worse than the season before.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

cr7: returning to manure is my best decision ever

also cr7:


yeah, i'm still salty a bit. he doesn't deserve this. we juventini do.

He absolutely deserves it. He fucked around, now he found out.

 

[.zero]

United still on the hook for his salary right?

 

[swag]

That's the way we like it

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I definitely don't think Ten Hag deserves all the praise he's getting though.

Ronaldo was an easy target and Ten Hag used him to make himself look strong. It works, because his players have zero life experience and are idiots anyway. Try stuff like this in the real world with intelligent people and you're kicked out of whatever company you were in in two seconds flat.

Didn't get a notification for this. In my view, he doesn't really have much of a choice. You can't just let the man do whatever he wants. There are definitely coaches that would let him though, and I think they would end up looking worse.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

at this point in his career he's incredibly difficult to manage and I don't think there are a lot of coaches who'd be able to put him in his place and successfully integrate him into a team. Without that he's definitely a net negative, football is a team game.

This is exactly right. Dutch coaches PREACH the team game and he needs the team to feed him. This is why we never made a play for him and flat-out said we would never want a player like Ronaldo.

 

[zizinho]

Sure, but its worth noting that in all 3 Ronaldo seasons we went out in CL to teams with a lot more "garbage" on their rosters. Even if you consider the teams that we put together for Allegri, Sarri and Pirlo subpar, each team still failed to reach their limited potential.

It was even more evident last season for United, after signing Ronaldo they looked worse than the season before.

Apart from his last season vs Porto, he scored in all ties. We conceded 3 vs Porto, 3 vs Ajax, 2 vs Lyon. If we were up to our usual solid setup and conceded less (Chiellini missed all of the ties we went out in, was subbed out vs Porto only i think due to injury. And if you rewatch the goals, youd see the difference it made), then who knows how far we go. But blaming Ronaldo, or saying we went out because of him, who has 7 goals in those games is silly

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I think his cost greatly outweighed his value.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

What did Bayern see?
This isn’t the first time Bayern have rejected the idea of signing Ronaldo. When the player originally moved from Real Madrid to Juventus for an eyewatering 100m euro transfer fee, then CEO Karl-Heinz Rummenigge commented that “Bayern would have never done such a thing.”

Back then, this statement was met with much derision from the CR7 and Juventus fanbases, but KHR proved correct in his assessment. Despite breaking the bank on Ronaldo, the Old Lady actually saw their performances decline in the following seasons, especially in Europe. Even with Ronaldo scoring regularly for them, something was amiss at Juve and they failed to reach their heights from the 2015-2018 years.

Following Juventus, Ronaldo’s return to Man United was not a happy one. Photo by Mike Egerton/PA Images via Getty Images
The same happened when he moved back to Man United. A promising project under coach Ole Gunnar Solskjaer quickly turned sour a few months after Ronaldo’s arrival, despite the Portuguese superstar still contributing on the scorer’s sheet. Like with Max Allegri, Maurizio Sarri, and Andrea Pirlo before him, Solskjaer became the fourth consecutive coach to be sacked by his club after coaching Ronaldo.

You could point to the systemic issues plaguing both these clubs as the real reason for their coaches’ downfall, and you would be correct. However, signing and playing the modern day version of CR7 is a symptom of those systemic issues. Ronaldo brings a rot to any current-day team, and clubs who cannot see that meet their demise very quickly.

There is a reason why no big, UCL-caliber team came for Ronaldo this summer. Well-run teams like Bayern Munich, Manchester City, and Real Madrid see no role for a 37-year-old specialist goalscorer who doesn’t work off the ball and can’t press. There’s a reason why Ten Hag’s “new look” United team has no space for Ronaldo, despite utilizing frankly mediocre players like Antony Martial and Marcus Rashford.

Modern day football is about roles and profiles, not superstars. Bayern Munich recognize this and act accordingly in the transfer market. It’s not like the current board is averse to spending, they greenlit a €76m spend on Matthijs de Ligt this summer despite already having the Dayot Upamecano (€40m) and Lucas Hernandez (€80m) on the squad already.

It’s clear that the game has passed Ronaldo by. He’s no longer your key to winning the big trophies, and don’t be surprised to see him retire or go to MLS in the coming weeks. Or maybe Borussia Dortmund could take a punt on him? Now that would cause the kind of delicious chaos we’d appreciate.

 

[zizinho]

lol at promising project under Solskjaer

 

[Pegi]

Not surprised him being pissed af. You've been top of the game for 20 years and even last season he was by far the best Man Utd player, and he was giving everything he has to try to lure Utd to to UCL by being the top scorer of whole spring and all he sees is jogging "lads" from the foggy islands not giving a single fuck. Then he realizes if this goes like this, i won't be continuing in here if we don't get the quality players. He put the notice of leaving, didn't show up on pre-season after zero signings on the summer and straight away signings started to pop up, Casemiro was signed, Antony was signed, Malacia was signed etc. He was promised a more competent team in order to stay and maybe Ten Hag was against it, but didn't openly admit it but owners told that we're keeping him for obvious reason. Now you can see Ten Hag believing in certain football, which includes high-intensity and alot of pressing, where Ronaldo just doesn't fit good as way less of a footballers in Rashford, Martial, Sancho's etc and then you get punished from that because you don't fit to the system. Then you start to recall last season, seeing all those guys not giving a fuck and still getting start every match this season they're fit to play and there you're, sitting on the bench for being literally only one trying during the last season. He prob thinks what the fuck is going on for real, that those guys who literally were nothing but collecting paychecks for last 2 years are automated starters out of sudden. I get that Ten Hag hasn't been there for those 2 years or even last season, but it doesn't matter for Ronaldo because based on the previous season, he should be a starter instead of those pure definitions of a total fuck ups when it comes to football players. It's like you working your ass off for some company and your colleagues being nothing but burden, yet they get the promotions. It's so fucking unbeliavable wrong and i get that Ronaldo is furious as fuck. I'v barely seen a footballer being treated so god damn badly i'v seen as this whole situation is.

Ten Hag should be buying him Rolex every match he wins, just because Ronaldo's pre-season stunt was the reason he got the players he wanted.

 

[Cerval]

Agnelli will come up with a visonary plan. Of that, I'm sure.