Cristiano Giuntoli (67 Viewers)

[CrimsonianKing]

Street.

Between the guy too stupid to find a shirt sponsor for one of the most famous teams in the world, the guy who plays the same shit each week, and Toli, It's really hard to tell who is the most incompetent person working for Juventus.

Boggles the mind.

Motta should be doing better no doubt about that. But he undeniably got fucked by Giuntoli’s incompetence and then injuries.

We should clean house. Said it time and time again. Sell the club.

 

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[DeviAngel]

It could have been simple Anakin..Sorry i meant Giuntoli.

Keep Tek, Hujisen, Rugani and Djalo. Keep Kean as back up. sign Cabal, Kalulu, Samardzic and Thuram.
Keep Chiesa. How though was it? now we overspent and we are even worse.

I know Koop was no brainer with the season he had but when there's no place for him in the team in terms of position... ??

 

[Brny44]

We will have to do a reset because of the reset, only in juventus

 

[s4tch]

It is hard to plan for an event in which two of your defenders tear ACL. Also, you don't know for what players we enquired about. Juve basically don't leak anything since Giuntoli took over.
Players like Boscagli or Bertola are totally not up for the task and even I know it, not to mention a team of professionals like in Juve's case.

Tell me, why Madrid didn't bring any defender while losing Militao to another ACL in November, Carvajal in October with Alaba still sidelined after an ACL rupture? They have incomparable budget and appeal to ours yet they play Tchouameni CB and Vazquez first choice RB. Bench? Raul Asencio, Jesus Vallejo and Fran Garcia.

Real Madrid.

i don't know about madrid. he shouldn't plan ahead for such events, nobody has a crystal ball. but he should absolutely react to them as it costs the club money and points

minus three defenders, all out for the rest of the season. imo the reaction was very weak. and now kalulu is out for a month, so all we have is gatti and the two newcomers (veiga and costa), and one of them is a fullback. and of course cambiaso is either injured or leaving, so we'd probably need a lb too. unless we want mckennie to play as a lb for the rest of the season, that is

 

[MikeM]

It is hard to plan for an event in which two of your defenders tear ACL. Also, you don't know for what players we enquired about. Juve basically don't leak anything since Giuntoli took over.
Players like Boscagli or Bertola are totally not up for the task and even I know it, not to mention a team of professionals like in Juve's case.

Tell me, why Madrid didn't bring any defender while losing Militao to another ACL in November, Carvajal in October with Alaba still sidelined after an ACL rupture? They have incomparable budget and appeal to ours yet they play Tchouameni CB and Vazquez first choice RB. Bench? Raul Asencio, Jesus Vallejo and Fran Garcia.

Real Madrid.

Because they have Mbappe and we have Mb..angula

 

[The Quazis]

i don't know about madrid. he shouldn't plan ahead for such events, nobody has a crystal ball. but he should absolutely react to them as it costs the club money and points

minus three defenders, all out for the rest of the season. imo the reaction was very weak. and now kalulu is out for a month, so all we have is gatti and the two newcomers (veiga and costa), and one of them is a fullback. and of course cambiaso is either injured or leaving, so we'd probably need a lb too. unless we want mckennie to play as a lb for the rest of the season, that is

None of us know how a football club at such a high level is run. That's why I brought Madrid as an example. If such a rich and successful club doesn't bring replacements for their key players in defense then maybe we shouldn't be so harsh on Juve either?

 

[Buck Fuddy]

It is hard to plan for an event in which two of your defenders tear ACL. Also, you don't know for what players we enquired about. Juve basically don't leak anything since Giuntoli took over.

We started the season with 4 players capable of playing CB. One of those 4 being a late panic signing, but ok.
And those 4 include Danilo, who apparently wasn't supposed to be part of the squad anyway. So, 3 players essentially.

You don't need to be a genius to realise that's going to be a major problem fairly quickly.
And if it's too hard to plan & think ahead, then you definitely shouldn't be in charge of transfers.

 

[s4tch]

None of us know how a football club at such a high level is run. That's why I brought Madrid as an example. If such a rich and successful club doesn't bring replacements for their key players in defense then maybe we shouldn't be so harsh on Juve either?

look buddy, if you think it's fine

• to have 4 defenders (one of them was rouhi) for a cl game, or
• not to replace 3 defenders as soon as possible, or
• regularly play players like mckennie, weah (our most prolific attacker from open play lol) or locatelli as defenders, or
• kick danilo out when we have a cb/fullback shortage,

then i'm fine with it. but don't try to tell me there won't be consequences, because there are already. gatti looks like shit for weeks, kalulu started to make mistakes and got injured, and we won one game and lost 3 out of the last 8 matches because our defense is leaking. i don't think it's fine

and yes, real can make mistakes too. and ancelotti might think that tchouaméni is a good enough cb. but if ancelotti asked for a central defender, he'd get one, you can bet your house on it

 

[Stevie]

If we don't sign another good CB it's going to be very difficult to finish in the top 5.

There's no way Kalulu is going to be able to keep playing so many games and Gatti is a disaster.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Man each time I see this thread I click right away hoping he resigned. Bah.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Fuck you cunt

 

[Lion]

All you had to do was nothing. Rugani, Danilo and Huijsen were all year. Just do nothing

What do you mean nothing? It was vital to sell hujusen and get rid of rugani wages to make room for 4th goalie. Stop being ungrateful

 

[Amer]

Man each time I see this thread I click right away hoping he resigned. Bah.

Continue like that for just 6 more years buddy, lol.

 

[Vlad]

3 midfielders playing in defense last night. Cant make this shit up. And he just released a defender

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Fuck you cunt

What do you think about defensive lineup last night? A true masterclass cooked by our chef

 

[The Quazis]

look buddy, if you think it's fine

• to have 4 defenders (one of them was rouhi) for a cl game, or
• not to replace 3 defenders as soon as possible, or
• regularly play players like mckennie, weah (our most prolific attacker from open play lol) or locatelli as defenders, or
• kick danilo out when we have a cb/fullback shortage,

then i'm fine with it. but don't try to tell me there won't be consequences, because there are already. gatti looks like shit for weeks, kalulu started to make mistakes and got injured, and we won one game and lost 3 out of the last 8 matches because our defense is leaking. i don't think it's fine

and yes, real can make mistakes too. and ancelotti might think that tchouaméni is a good enough cb. but if ancelotti asked for a central defender, he'd get one, you can bet your house on it

I wasn't trying to say it's an ideal situation. I just don't understand the criticism without any context. Do you consider our financial situation and competition? How do we bring a quality CB in January without money? How do you build a squad with two equally good players for each position without money? Even the richest clubs don't have such a luxury. I gave you the example of Madrid and you replied that Ancelotti just decided to not have three first eleven defenders replaced because he prefers to play other players out of position even though the club would easily bring him top quality replacements. Fair argument.
How about City? There was a time Pep played Akanji and Stones as the only holding midfielders. Did he also plan for that in the summer while having basically unlimited budget?
I guess let's agree to disagree.

 

[Vlad]

I wasn't trying to say it's an ideal situation. I just don't understand the criticism without any context. Do you consider our financial situation and competition? How do we bring a quality CB in January without money? How do you build a squad with two equally good players for each position without money? Even the richest clubs don't have such a luxury. I gave you the example of Madrid and you replied that Ancelotti just decided to not have three first eleven defenders replaced because he prefers to play other players out of position even though the club would easily bring him top quality replacements. Fair argument.
How about City? There was a time Pep played Akanji and Stones as the only holding midfielders. Did he also plan for that in the summer while having basically unlimited budget?
I guess let's agree to disagree.

Why is this a question made to fans? Giuntolli is earning a nice sum of money to find solutions. He has a team of employees, scouts working for him. He is not working pro bono. We hired him assuming that he is capable enough to solve our issues and so far he has created new ones. His moves make no sense. Fire a CB while we are already a thin in defense so that we can play midfielders and a winger in back 4. How is this a logical move? Why not keep Danilo until the summer and work on replacement? Right now we have to field Loca and Gatti as central defenders. The former bricklayer is author of 2 of the most commical own goals. He should be nowhere near starting 11. Id argue if he is good enough for the bench. We dont have money? Well, he wasted most of the budget on 2 midfielders that flopped. Why would you buy a midfielder (Luiz) that doesnt suit the coach you hired or the team in general?

 

[Lion]

I wasn't trying to say it's an ideal situation. I just don't understand the criticism without any context. Do you consider our financial situation and competition? How do we bring a quality CB in January without money? How do you build a squad with two equally good players for each position without money? Even the richest clubs don't have such a luxury. I gave you the example of Madrid and you replied that Ancelotti just decided to not have three first eleven defenders replaced because he prefers to play other players out of position even though the club would easily bring him top quality replacements. Fair argument.
How about City? There was a time Pep played Akanji and Stones as the only holding midfielders. Did he also plan for that in the summer while having basically unlimited budget?
I guess let's agree to disagree.

if club no money, why he sign a 4th goalie as first signing of mercato?

 

[marko serbia]

Cookin'

 

[Robee]

Why is this a question made to fans? Giuntolli is earning a nice sum of money to find solutions. He has a team of employees, scouts working for him. He is not working pro bono. We hired him assuming that he is capable enough to solve our issues and so far he has created new ones. His moves make no sense. Fire a CB while we are already a thin in defense so that we can play midfielders and a winger in back 4. How is this a logical move? Why not keep Danilo until the summer and work on replacement? Right now we have to field Loca and Gatti as central defenders. The former bricklayer is author of 2 of the most commical own goals. He should be nowhere near starting 11. Id argue if he is good enough for the bench. We dont have money? Well, he wasted most of the budget on 2 midfielders that flopped. Why would you buy a midfielder (Luiz) that doesnt suit the coach you hired or the team in general?

He literally talks about lacking context and you come up with the only game where our two new defenders weren't eligible to play and a third CB got injured without even mentioning it . It's strange the City game isn't being written about more because Danilo was world class there (and shit every other game but that's not important).

I hate the way he was let go -again- but his time was running out in the summer anyway.

It's far from perfect but adding context helps to form a decent picture instead of picking some irregularities.

 

[Bianconero81]

None of us know how a football club at such a high level is run. That's why I brought Madrid as an example. If such a rich and successful club doesn't bring replacements for their key players in defense then maybe we shouldn't be so harsh on Juve either?

You forgot one important factor - Madrid win in spite of their struggles. We continue to struggle, and somehow get worse.

Madrid, last time I checked, are 15 time CL winners, and last won La Liga in 2023.

They can afford to be (somewhat) patient because they've never really failed (only in 2020 if recent memory serves). Their standards are incredibly high that if they don't win La Liga and the CL, the season is considered a disappointment.

We've been starved of success for 5 years. We were close to the pinnacle, but we have plumetted at an alarmingly fast rate, with no end in sight. Our demise began with the constant downgrades after selling both Vidal and Pogba: the acquisition of Ronaldo only exacerbaed the situation and Covid compounded it.

You can't build a winning team without consistency, and that consistency must be a shared vision between ownership, management, coaches, physios, the medical team, the players, and the fans. It also involves retaining your best players, not chopping and churning. Do you see how a Sfinter with no money has managed success over the past 5 years? Balance and retention of their core. They haven't sold Lautaro, Barella, or Bastoni. Their key cogs are still there. We need to identify our key cogs and build around them, complement them with quality players and personalities.

The bottom line is, we wouldn't be so harsh if there was a clear vision/strategy and the improvement was visible. So far, our play is insipid, our coach is asinine, our sporting director is a buffoon, and the performances do nothing to absolve anyone, and everything is magnified tenfold because the results are abysmal.

This is Juventus, not some high school experiment. If you can't handle the pressure or deliver, GTFO! It's that simple.