Cristiano Giuntoli (83 Viewers)

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,933
What? Can you read? They fucked up and did the time too. You can bitch about City and PSG’s fake sponsors but Inter and Roma getting FFP sanctions is not that.

ps. I’m referring to the sanctions in 2015-18 timeframe
https://football-italia.net/ffp-roma-released-inter-remain/amp/
Like I said, rule for some, not applied to everyone, man utd have spent endless amounts for years and again seemingly go unpunished.

Inter... they shouldn't even be allowed to register in serie A with their debts.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,625
Like I said, rule for some, not applied to everyone, man utd have spent endless amounts for years and again seemingly go unpunished...
united have actual income, that's the huge difference. that's why they practically never recorded big losses, only post covid when certain ffp rules were adjusted. they still faced a small ffp related fine (300k) for their 2019-22 results. but they aren't the team to bitch about

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city is a completely different matter though. no one can come up with a sane explanation why their famous case with 110 charges is still in the investigation phase, and why uefa let them slip away with a literally dumb procedural mistake when uefa missed their own deadline. (they are either amateurs or corrupt pieces of shit, or probably both.)
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,933
united have actual income, that's the huge difference. that's why they practically never recorded big losses, only post covid when certain ffp rules were adjusted. they still faced a small ffp related fine (300k) for their 2019-22 results. but they aren't the team to bitch about

Screenshot_2024-08-09-22-27-43-19_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg


city is a completely different matter though. no one can come up with a sane explanation why their famous case with 110 charges is still in the investigation phase, and why uefa let them slip away with a literally dumb procedural mistake when uefa missed their own deadline. (they are either amateurs or corrupt pieces of shit, or probably both.)
Uefa is definitely dodgy, they'll no doubt escape harsh punishment for those charges, it's inevitable.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,956
The fact that Inter won 2 scudetti and made it to a CL final under Marotta says that it was wrong to let him go.
I’ve made a fuck tonne of bad predictions and shitty takes over my 30 years following this stupid sport - but I 100% correctly knew what a disaster it would be for us to bin Marotta and have him end up at one of our rivals. It didn’t take a genius to figure out it was a terrible move and would backfire against us.

Well, everyone except for Badass, Turk and Cronios.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,233
I don't mind missing out on your targets here or there, but not having CB's or wingers 10 days before the league starts is not fair to the new manager at all. We're not in a position to waste time on transfers that need to happen on our terms. And the issue is that we put ourselves here by selling and banning players in positions we need.

Tek
Danilo - Bremer - Calafiori/Todibo - Cambiaso
Luiz - Fagioli - Locatelli
Soule - Vlahovic - Chiesa


To me this would be good enough. I think just getting rid of Allegri was a signing in itself.
How would you feel if we could go back in time and go all in and get Calafiori but skip Koopmeiners?
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,028
Bro the amount of shit takes and wrong predictions I’ve made about footballers, teams, coaches etc could fill a fucking library lmao
We all fucked up, some more, some less but defending it and taking yourself and your takes too seriously makes you a target. Like when some idiot defended the sale of Vidal, by saying he had abysmal season. That fucking guy...
 

kronos

Senior Member
Aug 16, 2011
1,845
Read again.

Hindsight says his successors were a mistake, but that doesn't mean to say it was right to keep Marotta too. Signing Higuain for as much as we did with no resale value made this club suffer financially, the start of the end was already in the works before Paratici and co took over even if they didn't make the situation any better.

There is such thing as being the victim of your own success
Dude..
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,816
Read again.

Hindsight says his successors were a mistake, but that doesn't mean to say it was right to keep Marotta too. Signing Higuain for as much as we did with no resale value made this club suffer financially, the start of the end was already in the works before Paratici and co took over even if they didn't make the situation any better.

There is such thing as being the victim of your own success
Just admit you’re wrong bro.
At the time, I thought replacing Marotta with Tici was a good idea and I was dead wrong.

How can you say with a straight face that Tici didn’t set us back by at least half a decade with his disastrous deals.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,956
Just admit you’re wrong bro.
At the time, I thought replacing Marotta with Tici was a good idea and I was dead wrong.

How can you say with a straight face that Tici didn’t set us back by at least half a decade with his disastrous deals.
lol exactly

One of my worst takes was I thought Salah going to Liverpool for €45m or whatever it was was a bad deal. Bro turned out to be one of the best attackers that league has seen and one of Liverpool’s best ever players. It happens.

Badass just keeps digging himself deeper and deeper with his stubborn refusal to ever admit he’s wrong about shit.
 

Al Birdie

Junior Member
May 19, 2016
460
It's not like we let Soulé go to Roma while there were higher offers... But apparently that's what you're trying to say anyway.
Me?

It's not human trafficking... If Soulé wants Roma than you can't exactly force him elsewhere.
Since you are already arguing with yourself i'm going to leave you to it.

These things happen, when you start with the conclusion, in this case "every transfer move done by Juventus board is correct" and work your way from it. I don't know if you are trying to seem "reasonable" (or rather what you think reasonable should look) or is it just coping mechanism. But it feels like speaking with poorly written AI.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,941
Dude I freaking said that marotta's successors in hindsight were a mistake!!!
That's only half an answer.
You need to clearly state whether letting Marotta go was a mistake. While it’s true we can’t predict how Marotta would have performed if he had stayed, unless you believe he would have done worse than Paratici and that Inter would have been better off with someone else instead of Marotta, then the answer is fairly straightforward, isn’t it?

Come on, you can do it and we can finally put this debate to rest.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,933
That's only half an answer.
You need to clearly state whether letting Marotta go was a mistake. While it’s true we can’t predict how Marotta would have performed if he had stayed, unless you believe he would have done worse than Paratici and that Inter would have been better off with someone else instead of Marotta, then the answer is fairly straightforward, isn’t it?

Come on, you can do it and we can finally put this debate to rest.
I already said that I felt a number of marotta's deals were already signs of the beginning of the end in terms of sustainability and growth, Higuain being one of the examples of an investment with 0 financial return, Vidal's successors being another, Matuidi too, bringing back bonucci etc... Marotta's successors inherited these problems only they added to it too.

Tbh even at inter you see marotta handing out fat contracts to free signings to the likes of Arnautovic and sanchez yet they can't even shift a number of them now, the only real asset they have from these free signings is Thuram, short to medium term success probably yes, long term I highly doubt it, hence why I don't necessarily believe it was wrong to let him go, I don't even think inter will do all that well this season,I don't think they will run away with the league as some might think, and I think they will crash out of Europe long before the latter stages this season.

What I will say about his successors namely the likes of cherubini who was one of the masterminds behind setting up the next gen project, for us that is a source of income for the club, whether we like it or not that is one of its purposes, even if some of us like to think it is just to blood the future of the club with new talent.
 

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