Cristiano Giuntoli (64 Viewers)

[s4tch]

Agree with all of this, but to call the team weaker than last season’s is a stretch, especially since those pieces were missing last season as well. I’m still hopeful we can find a solution with Chiesa, even if it just for this season. It’s unbelievable how both parties need each other, yet we can’t find a resolution over a situation that has clearly gone too far.

last year we had an adequate squad for 3-4-3 (although allegri eventually never tested that formation). not a scudetto winning squad, but enough for the podium, especially considering napoli's struggles

now the starting lineup is missing at least 3 players (4 if chiesa leaves), that's a lot with ~a week left before the first match. and knowing the hit rate for our targets, this could turn out to be an unexpectedly challenging season right from the beginning. giuntoli still deliver some targets, still, the currently available players couldn't achieve a podium finish, and it's the 10th of august already. we're behind schedule at the moment

as for chiesa, i agree. from the outside a 2 year extension should be the obvious solution. then again if something is broken behind the parties then this is a pointless speculation

 

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[Lion]

team is not weaker than last season guys. look at the 4 important factors why this is the case:

1- Allegri is gone.
2-Alex Sandro is gone.
3- Rabiot is gone.
4- De Sicglio is back from injury

the squad is stronger for the above reasons.

 

[Bjerknes]

I think people are seriously underrating Rabiot. It’s not a popular opinion, and I’m not a huge fan either, but the guy is really solid in reading the game and just being a menace. Thuram isn’t there yet, and Luiz isn’t the same sort of player, so don’t be surprised if we are asking what’s going on left side of midfield. Rabiot is a prick but starts for France for a reason.

 

[Xperd]

I think people are seriously underrating Rabiot. It’s not a popular opinion, and I’m not a huge fan either, but the guy is really solid in reading the game and just being a menace. Thuram isn’t there yet, and Luiz isn’t the same sort of player, so don’t be surprised if we are asking what’s going on left side of midfield. Rabiot is a prick but starts for France for a reason.

Yeah but then we had hot garbage like Mckennie and Suckatelli. One of the primary reasons why our midfield sucked so bad.

What's more important is how our midfield performs collectively as a unit.

We are going from:
Rabiot, Locatelli, Mckennie, Miretti, Hans (Fagioli wasn't available for the whole season)

To potentially:
Douglas Luiz, Thuram, Koopmeiners, Fagioli, Locatelli, Miretti, Azdic

I know what I would choose

I would be inclined to agree with you only if we fail to get Koopmeiners

 

[Alex-444]

I think people are seriously underrating Rabiot. It’s not a popular opinion, and I’m not a huge fan either, but the guy is really solid in reading the game and just being a menace. Thuram isn’t there yet, and Luiz isn’t the same sort of player, so don’t be surprised if we are asking what’s going on left side of midfield. Rabiot is a prick but starts for France for a reason.

Luiz will drag us up

what the fuck is a Rabiot mom's son



All he could do was run like Weah

The same piece of shit

 

[Bjerknes]

Yeah but then we had hot garbage like Mckennie and Suckatelli. One of the primary reasons why our midfield sucked so bad.

What's more important is how our midfield performs collectively as a unit.

We are going from:
Rabiot, Locatelli, Mckennie, Miretti, Hans (Fagioli wasn't available for the whole season)

To potentially:
Douglas Luiz, Thuram, Koopmeiners, Fagioli, Locatelli, Miretti, Azdic

I know what I would choose

I would be inclined to agree with you only if we fail to get Koopmeiners

Douglas Luiz is still a question mark for me. He cost us a lot and I remember reading Villa fans claiming he sucks without a true DM next to him. I always thought he was decent but didn’t notice his defensive work. Locatelli is just Locatelli and yes I know you hate McKennie

 

[JCK]

You're the one with your mind made up. I'm in the open here, waiting for the big picture. But if you think forcing a player to an unwanted destination for more money, while there wasn't even a higher offer is what we should've done. Good luck with that.

 

[Siamak]

He should hold his head high for his masterpiece, failed on both of Calafiori and Todibo deals and offloading two promising talents for under value without getting replacement. it's pretty obvious he's doing things without a certain plan. the most unprofessional way that a sporting director carrying out through transfer market blindly and with a vague strategy.

 

[JCK]

Resign before it's too late.

 

[Robee]

He should hold his head high for his masterpiece, failed on both of Calafiori and Todibo deals and offloading two promising talents for under value without getting replacement. it's pretty obvious he's doing things without a certain plan. the most unprofessional way that a sporting director carrying out through transfer market blindly and with a vague strategy.

Don't you think we most likely walked out on those deals that cost 50 mil and 40 mil + 20% resale value respectively?

 

[4ndr3i]

Don't you think we most likely walked out on those deals that cost 50 mil and 40 mil + 20% resale value respectively?

Bro, the Todibo deal was sheer incompetence. We could’ve had him for the initial 30M, but he kept pussyfooting for a month on minute details on the obligation/option conditions until the player was fed up with waiting.

He prioritized renewing contracts above bringing in talent to strengthen the team. He’s priorities are wack and now we’re butt naked a week before the season starts.

 

[Robee]

Bro, the Todibo deal was sheer incompetence. We could’ve had him for the initial 30M, but he kept pussyfooting for a month on minute details on the obligation/option conditions until the player was fed up with waiting.

He prioritized renewing contracts above bringing in talent to strengthen the team. He’s priorities are wack and now we’re butt naked a week before the season starts.

When was the price ever 30 million? I can not recall that. Source?

 

[Siamak]

Don't you think we most likely walked out on those deals that cost 50 mil and 40 mil + 20% resale value respectively?

resale value?
We cant settlement a team around mediocrity and Skip quality players because of price, in any case, you have to take a risk and purchase players. I'd rather bring in a 50m player like Calafiori than buying an injury prone/jaborani player with 20m. Remember We bought Deligt for 70 million, he didn't answer or whatever went wrong about him we still managed to grab 70m(don't remember the exact amount) on selling him.

 

[Robee]

resale value?
We cant settlement a team around mediocrity and Skip quality players because of price, in any case, you have to take a risk and purchase players. I'd rather bring in a 50m player like Calafiori than buying an injury prone/jaborani player with 20m. Remember We bought Deligt for 70 million, he didn't answer or whatever went wrong about him we still managed to grab 70m(don't remember the exact amount) on selling him.

Yeah, we all agree. But we don't have that kind of money... Remember what got us here in the first place; overreaching.

I guess you'd also prefer a murcielago to your current car. I would... But we don't for the exact same reason.

 

[Siamak]

Yeah, we all agree. But we don't have that kind of money... Remember what got us here in the first place; overreaching.

I guess you'd also prefer a murcielago to your current car. I would... But we don't for the exact same reason.

We're on losing side because we sell our players at the price lower than the actual value and in other hand other clubs pricing their players based on current market value and this is where we're stepping down from Mercato as a loser. Giuntoli doesn't know how to play hard ball and terrible at selling players.

 

[Robee]

We're on losing side because we sell our players at the price lower than the actual value and in other hand other clubs pricing their players based on current market value and this is where we're stepping down from Mercato as a loser. Giuntoli doesn't know how to play hard ball and terrible at selling players.

I always thought market value is what other teams are willing to give. We don't have many valuable assets and especially not on low salaries, which is key for most teams in sustainability. Soulé was one of those and we sold him for 24 + 6 million. I've seen the arguement multiple times now but who offered more?

I wouldn't want to read the comments if we bought a relegated player with 1 good season for 30 million... We can spin it any way we want but that's what he is.

What we should do in the long run is buy many more younger assets to be able to sell higher...

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Told you a million times already Leicester offered more than roma

 

[JuveJay]

Told you a million times already Leicester offered more than roma

Doesn't matter who offered more anyway as he said he was only interested in Roma. We accepted more from a Saudi club in Jan but he wouldn't move there. Clubs don't control everything anymore, it's not like the Moggi days.

 

[Robee]

Told you a million times already Leicester offered more than roma

Sauce?

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Doesn't matter who offered more anyway as he said he was only interested in Roma. We accepted more from a Saudi club in Jan but he wouldn't move there. Clubs don't control everything anymore, it's not like the Moggi days.

Well, in that case we could've forced Roma to pay the same price as offered by Leicester, I guess... Basically what Nice did for Todibo.

 

[rainhard]

Sauce?
Well, in that case we could've forced Roma to pay the same price as offered by Leicester, I guess... Basically what Nice did for Todibo.

I think Roma pay almost the same sum with Leicester offer, the difference is the structure. Leicester offer 30m cash, while Roma 26m + 4m bonuses
On that time we expect Leicester to bid for 35m (our asking price), didnt know the offer is come or not, but because Soule only want Roma, then we asked for Roma to match that 35m (that is why we get the 26+4m valuation +10% sell on clause)

The 10% sell on clause probably is our estimation of his next sale value of 50m to cover at least we get 35m from him in total

source : https://football-italia.net/soule-juventus-wait-new-offers-leicester-roma/