Cristiano Giuntoli (58 Viewers)
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- not all good deals are driven by resale value. you don't buy 29 year old nedved for resale value, you don't sign freebie over 30 pirlo for resale value. both were brilliant signings without a doubt. higuain was expensive but it fit the strategy - until andrea decided to go ambitious with ronaldo (which was not only without any resale value but also unsustainable)
- vidal was irreplaceable. still would be. no player on the market like him. mvpp was top juve midfield ever probably, with very unique players. we still made it to an other cl final with khedira and pjanic. since then the midfield has become worse year after year.
- matuidi was nothing special. still better than the shit tici bought.
- bonucci came back after ronaldo was brought. you said many times that tici was the man in charge when ronaldo came, right? how come that during that summer, tici gets the credit for ronaldo and cancelo, but marotta is blamed for bonucci? that summer smells all paratici buddy
- vidal was irreplaceable. still would be. no player on the market like him. mvpp was top juve midfield ever probably, with very unique players. we still made it to an other cl final with khedira and pjanic. since then the midfield has become worse year after year.
- matuidi was nothing special. still better than the shit tici bought.
- bonucci came back after ronaldo was brought. you said many times that tici was the man in charge when ronaldo came, right? how come that during that summer, tici gets the credit for ronaldo and cancelo, but marotta is blamed for bonucci? that summer smells all paratici buddy
Vidal I get was somewhat irreplaceable, after all he was one of the best mids in europe at one point, but at the same time you don't replace him with an unwanted hernanes who was riding the inter bench and Rincon who was a temu version of vidal and frankly a very bad one too.
Bonucci was bought back under marotta's watch and despite his success in the euros, he was clearly riding on the backs of Barzagli and Chiellini, fucking useless player with so many defensive flaws otherwise.
Ronaldo and Cancelo are both mendes clients, I never said or accredited the arrival of cancelo to Paratici, but what I do know and again this is well documented that Ronaldo was offered to Paratici who in turn effectively presented the idea to AA, bypassing Marotta's approval.
I'm not going to lie but at the time it seemed like an amazing move, to say we had Cristiano Ronaldo playing at Juve? Hard to say no to one of the greatest footballers ever, ofcourse we don't always see or want to believe how it could play out badly in the future, we all just thought right we can push on in the CL. Financially covid really didn't help with his time at the club.
Bonucci was bought back under marotta's watch and despite his success in the euros, he was clearly riding on the backs of Barzagli and Chiellini, fucking useless player with so many defensive flaws otherwise.
Ronaldo and Cancelo are both mendes clients, I never said or accredited the arrival of cancelo to Paratici, but what I do know and again this is well documented that Ronaldo was offered to Paratici who in turn effectively presented the idea to AA, bypassing Marotta's approval.
I'm not going to lie but at the time it seemed like an amazing move, to say we had Cristiano Ronaldo playing at Juve? Hard to say no to one of the greatest footballers ever, ofcourse we don't always see or want to believe how it could play out badly in the future, we all just thought right we can push on in the CL. Financially covid really didn't help with his time at the club.
Yes. It is me who's arguing with himself, depending on who's buying and who's selling. My bad 
Dude, I have your script, it's very thin and it goes like this: "let's not judge before the end of mercato"> mercato ends with predictable consequences- we sign no one at all or sign someone who's woefully below the required level> "they have not played a single game together, give it couple months before judging"> couples months of shitshow> "current form does not matter, we should wait until spring, see where we are and dish out the judgement"> w/e place we finish in "it was my expectation for this year, let's see what we can do this summer"> repeat from the start.
There. Saved you time till spring at least.
JCK (?) was wright- you will find a way to defend even the most boneheaded move.
Dude, I have your script, it's very thin and it goes like this: "let's not judge before the end of mercato"> mercato ends with predictable consequences- we sign no one at all or sign someone who's woefully below the required level> "they have not played a single game together, give it couple months before judging"> couples months of shitshow> "current form does not matter, we should wait until spring, see where we are and dish out the judgement"> w/e place we finish in "it was my expectation for this year, let's see what we can do this summer"> repeat from the start.
There. Saved you time till spring at least.
JCK (?) was wright- you will find a way to defend even the most boneheaded move.
Yes. It is me who's arguing with himself, depending on who's buying and who's selling. My bad
Dude, I have your script, it's very thin and it goes like this: "let's not judge before the end of mercato"> mercato ends with predictable consequences- we sign no one at all or sign someone who's woefully below the required level> "they have not played a single game together, give it couple months before judging"> couples months of shitshow> "current form does not matter, we should wait until spring, see where we are and dish out the judgement"> w/e place we finish in "it was my expectation for this year, let's see what we can do this summer"> repeat from the start.
There. Saved you time till spring at least.
JCK (?) was wright- you will find a way to defend even the most boneheaded move.
Dude, I have your script, it's very thin and it goes like this: "let's not judge before the end of mercato"> mercato ends with predictable consequences- we sign no one at all or sign someone who's woefully below the required level> "they have not played a single game together, give it couple months before judging"> couples months of shitshow> "current form does not matter, we should wait until spring, see where we are and dish out the judgement"> w/e place we finish in "it was my expectation for this year, let's see what we can do this summer"> repeat from the start.
There. Saved you time till spring at least.
JCK (?) was wright- you will find a way to defend even the most boneheaded move.
- "we sign no one at all or sign someone who's woefully below the required level" - even before the mercato ends
? How can you know?- "couples months of shitshow" when the team hasn't even played a single official match
?- "it was my expectation for this year, let's see what we can do this summer". Can I ask what your expectations this year?
Can you elaborate, pls?
Yes. It is me who's arguing with himself, depending on who's buying and who's selling. My bad
Dude, I have your script, it's very thin and it goes like this: "let's not judge before the end of mercato"> mercato ends with predictable consequences- we sign no one at all or sign someone who's woefully below the required level> "they have not played a single game together, give it couple months before judging"> couples months of shitshow> "current form does not matter, we should wait until spring, see where we are and dish out the judgement"> w/e place we finish in "it was my expectation for this year, let's see what we can do this summer"> repeat from the start.
There. Saved you time till spring at least.
JCK (?) was wright- you will find a way to defend even the most boneheaded move.
Dude, I have your script, it's very thin and it goes like this: "let's not judge before the end of mercato"> mercato ends with predictable consequences- we sign no one at all or sign someone who's woefully below the required level> "they have not played a single game together, give it couple months before judging"> couples months of shitshow> "current form does not matter, we should wait until spring, see where we are and dish out the judgement"> w/e place we finish in "it was my expectation for this year, let's see what we can do this summer"> repeat from the start.
There. Saved you time till spring at least.
JCK (?) was wright- you will find a way to defend even the most boneheaded move.
What I'd like to read is how, for how much and to who you would've sold Soulé.
How can we possibly have a worse squad than last year when the only significant departure from last seasons players is Rabiot? We’ve brought in 2 superior midfielders, a left back, and a goalkeeper better suited for our play. We’re also pushing hard for Koopmeiners and if we land him we’ll have a Juventus worthy midfield for the first time since 5 year.
winger situation still looks like a mess. nico gonzalez wouldn't be a bad addition, weah as his backup would probably cut it against bottom table clubs, but i wouldn't trust yildiz for a full season, so we'd need an other starter for the left flank
we also need a quality left footed cb, or at least someone who's used to play that position
we also need a quality left footed cb, or at least someone who's used to play that position
Agree with all of this, but to call the team weaker than last season’s is a stretch, especially since those pieces were missing last season as well. I’m still hopeful we can find a solution with Chiesa, even if it just for this season. It’s unbelievable how both parties need each other, yet we can’t find a resolution over a situation that has clearly gone too far.