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Mike-e-y

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Jul 18, 2004
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who cares if crespo isn't loyal? he's only got about 2-3 years left in him and if he joined us we would definately be his last club. he's a great player, scores shed loads of goals in all competitions hes played in and has a very proffesional attitude, he always gives 100%+ so ireally dont see the down side... yeah hes played for inter but so did canna, yeah hes moved about italy, maybe because he was sold? its not like he scarpered out of every club hes played for, he didnt demand to leave inter and was only at milan on loan, he actually wanted to stay so loyalty isnt really an issue here, he only wants to leave chelsea coz he dont like the english lifestyle!
 

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Nov 28, 2006
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#42
the mistake of his career was signing that contract with chelski...
he should have signed for 2 years.

when a player knows that his position in team isn't that great he must consider the years in the contract.
players like kaka or del piero know that their future is with their teams so they sign long range contracts.
 

Mike-e-y

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Jul 18, 2004
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#43
the mistake of his career was signing that contract with chelski...
he should have signed for 2 years.

when a player knows that his position in team isn't that great he must consider the years in the contract.
players like kaka or del piero know that their future is with their teams so they sign long range contracts.
chelsea are the mistake of most peoples career
 

Ahmedios

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Nov 11, 2006
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#44
The problem is with his clubs. It wasn't Crespo who was leaving his clubs but his clubs were selling him to get money from him.
Parma had big financial problems when they sold him to Lazio, for a world record fee of 34£million to Lazio. If you remember , the next year Parma also sold the rest of their stars Buffon and Thuram, and then even Cannavaro.
Then Lazio had financial problems and had to sell him to Inter for 17£million. Lazio lost half of the money they payed to Parma 2 years ago, but they were forced to sell their best player.
Crespo never wanted to leave Inter in the first place but Moratti decided to get the money back he payed for him, and he sold him to Chelsea for 17£million.
In Chelsea and England he wasn't happy at all and this is the only case where you can call him not loyal. He was the one who wanted to go out of England and that's why Chelsea loaned him to Milan. He begged Berlusconi to buy him from Chelsea, but Berlusconi didn't wanted and he bought Gilardino. Hernan Crespo, like every proffessional accepted that and went back to England.
Chelsea loaned him again to Inter, and now, although he still wants to stay with Inter, Chelsea will probably get him back and Moratti won't care about Crespo's wishes and won't buy him from Chelsea.

Maybe he wasn't the one who wasn't loyal to his clubs, but his clubs weren't loyal to him ?
I agree about him being forced to leave both Parma and Lazio. But when he was at Inter in season 2002/03, he was the one who approved of leaving Italy to England in the first place, he was the one who took the decision, I remember that he'd more than one offer from Italy but he preferred England. Then when he joined Chelsea, he said a dream came true. Crespo didn't settle in England and he wanted to get back to Italy. When he returned to Italy, he said that he and his Italian wife were very happy to return to the place where he felt that it was the right place for him and his family. He played a pretty good season with Milan, and then Chelsea asked him to return to London. As you said, he begged Berlusconi, but his begging went in vain.

Do you know what he said when he returned from his loan? "I feel that I can offer Chelsea a lot". Again, Drogba was the only beloved Murinho's choice and Crespo asked to be transferred to Italy, but this time it was to Inter.

I can say that the situations, he's faced, haven't helped him to get a stable career, but his share in such instability has been great.
 

Ahmedios

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Nov 11, 2006
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#45
who cares if crespo isn't loyal? he's only got about 2-3 years left in him and if he joined us we would definately be his last club. he's a great player, scores shed loads of goals in all competitions hes played in and has a very proffesional attitude, he always gives 100%+ so ireally dont see the down side... yeah hes played for inter but so did canna, yeah hes moved about italy, maybe because he was sold? its not like he scarpered out of every club hes played for, he didnt demand to leave inter and was only at milan on loan, he actually wanted to stay so loyalty isnt really an issue here, he only wants to leave chelsea coz he dont like the english lifestyle!
Not lately.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
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#47
The problem is with his clubs. It wasn't Crespo who was leaving his clubs but his clubs were selling him to get money from him.
Parma had big financial problems when they sold him to Lazio, for a world record fee of 34£million to Lazio. If you remember , the next year Parma also sold the rest of their stars Buffon and Thuram, and then even Cannavaro.
Then Lazio had financial problems and had to sell him to Inter for 17£million. Lazio lost half of the money they payed to Parma 2 years ago, but they were forced to sell their best player.
Crespo never wanted to leave Inter in the first place but Moratti decided to get the money back he payed for him, and he sold him to Chelsea for 17£million.
In Chelsea and England he wasn't happy at all and this is the only case where you can call him not loyal. He was the one who wanted to go out of England and that's why Chelsea loaned him to Milan. He begged Berlusconi to buy him from Chelsea, but Berlusconi didn't wanted and he bought Gilardino. Hernan Crespo, like every proffessional accepted that and went back to England.
Chelsea loaned him again to Inter, and now, although he still wants to stay with Inter, Chelsea will probably get him back and Moratti won't care about Crespo's wishes and won't buy him from Chelsea.

Maybe he wasn't the one who wasn't loyal to his clubs, but his clubs weren't loyal to him ?
Spot on. :tup:
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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#49
This interview has been taken from Offside #3 in 2007.

Hernán Crespo about changing club

You have played with Parma, Lazio, Chelsea, Milan- and now you are with their local rivals, Inter. Can you, and the supporters, really identify yourself with a new club so often?


Of course one wonders. I am old enough to remember the time where a player stayed at a club for a long time and not thought about something else. Nowadays, one should be ready for everything. What people won't understand understand is how difficult it is to adapt to the new clubs, the new playing system, the new countries and leagues. And how lucky I am, ever since my times at River Plate in Argentina I have played with clubs that fought for heavy titles.


At the same time you have almost all the time ended up in the shadows of someone else. Batistuta in the national team for many years. Shevshenko (spelled Sjevsjenko in Swedish :D) with Milan, Drogba with Chelsea, Vieri, Ibrahimovic...Have you never said: "What do I have there to do? I want to be sure of my playing position."

If you ask me if I have chosen to change club, then the answer is no, I don't think that anyone wants that. You cannot imagine the pressure from the club directors and media to stay or move. A players career is short and in my case was about moving from one big club to another.

Can't you influence the situation and destination at all?

Yes, sometimes. When loaned from Chelsea to Milan I wanted to move. I've had Ancelotti as manager with Parma, I knew he would have trusted me. Then, when Chelsea wanted me back, I wondered: "What do they want me for now?" I ended up at the bench more often than with Milan.


You seem to have matured on the way, earlier fights with Batistuta in the national team. Nowadays one hears Drogba holding your solidarity and the team spirit is in tough times with Chelsea- just like he complains about Shevshenko never letting the ball go...

It always feels good to receive praise from an old team mate. It is also true that I sat a lot on the bench in the national team before Batistuta but we never had a fight. It must be someone who came up with that because he played with Roma, I played with Lazio, he comes from Boca, I come from River. I know I am popular in elite football. That Chelsea wanted me back, for example, means that I wasn't done with them after my first time there - and that I did pretty well with my times at Milan.


You have netted a goal in every other match, both with the national team and with the clubs over your ten years. Even that made you struggle to hold your place and be loved from the supporters?


It had become like that. Sometimes it hurts. With all I performed I could have got bigger knowledge. Sometimes it is bound with lack of respect. I haven't delivered less as a player like, well deserved, to be considered as the real big stars. In the national team I haven't felt the right support, for example. It gives pain that people called after other players after the last World Cup.


I remember one thing from earlier in the fall that still makes me surprised. You had just came back to Inter and you won the Italian Super Cup against Roma. You celebrated like you had loved the club since your childhood...


If you mean that I played for the gallery, then you are wrong. When a contract and a move is fixed, so one will say one thing: win. If one doesn't have this hunger thne one doesn't last long. We came back from a 0-3 to 4-3, I came in and scored a goal the first time I got the ball. My happiness was just like when we scored the 3-0 in the Champions league final with Milan. Do you understand how it feels, after I have made two goals and everyting...


But you had just arrived from Chelsea to inter and before that from their city rivals, Milan.

But think yourself: I came back to an inter that i have always stumbled and always lost the big games. I, myself, have been there a few years earlier where the upset was cooked, and I asked myself: "This time I could, and with players from Juventus, come to Inter and create the change, take out the club out of this evil circle. That we have achieved there with this game exactly at the start of the season. and this winning mentality we succeeded to hold.


And if there comes a club now in June, and offers more money than Inter...

...then I am hesitant. I am having a good time at Inter. But I have always dremed of playing with River again. I remember when I signed with Parma ten years ago. I scored two goals at home when we came back and won Copa Libertadores in my last game for River. 80000 spectators shouted: "Don't go, Crespo! Don't go, Crespo!" To come back to Argentina will be following my heart. Then it cannot be another team.


Interviewed by Sergio Levinsky.
Translated to Swedish by Tobias Regnell
Translated to English by me.
 

Ahmedios

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Nov 11, 2006
5,107
#50
What does anyone expect him to say? Nothing, but trying to find lame excuses.

Anyways, Jacques, your hard work is appreciated. :pint:
 

C4ISR

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Dec 18, 2005
2,362
#55
Id rather we go for Saviola and Pizarro since they are free and not Interista. Ridiculous rumour. Crespo has done everything but handcuff himself to Moratti because he wants to stay with Inter.
 

Sadomin

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Apr 5, 2005
7,327
#56
Crespo is a very humble footballer who shows more loyalty to the club he plays for than most so called loyal players. Have you ever seen him cause trouble in or complain about his playing situation? The reason he's been playing in so many high profile clubs is because he's a great striker who does his job wherever he goes.
 

Ahmedios

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Nov 11, 2006
5,107
#59
As I said earlier, a very few people, whom I've heard, confessing that they're wrong or shouldn't have done this. Might be they considered what they did, at that time, were right. But now they have a completely different view, and this is the most important.

Crespo said:
If you ask me if I have chosen to change club, then the answer is no, I don't think that anyone wants that. You cannot imagine the pressure from the club directors and media to stay or move. A players career is short and in my case was about moving from one big club to another.
Yes, anyone doesn't want to change clubs but he did a lot. Which media and club directors was he talking about! All players face the same things in their careers. He isn't an exception.

Crespo said:
But think yourself: I came back to an inter that i have always stumbled and always lost the big games. I, myself, have been there a few years earlier where the upset was cooked, and I asked myself: "This time I could, and with players from Juventus, come to Inter and create the change, take out the club out of this evil circle. That we have achieved there with this game exactly at the start of the season. and this winning mentality we succeeded to hold.
He always believes that time has been changing and he should settle in any club. He doesn't believe in a specific project, in a specific club, but in the club which pays (If it is an Italian side, it would be perfect) and at the same time guaranteeing him a regular football, hence, he wouldn't end up with the slowest salary in his career.

Crespo said:
...then I am hesitant. I am having a good time at Inter. But I have always dremed of playing with River again. I remember when I signed with Parma ten years ago. I scored two goals at home when we came back and won Copa Libertadores in my last game for River. 80000 spectators shouted: "Don't go, Crespo! Don't go, Crespo!" To come back to Argentina will be following my heart. Then it cannot be another team.
Yes, who isn't hesitant in front of the $?

And what if Chelsea offer him another contract with a higher salary provided that he'd accept Mourinho's decision? I don't think he'll refuse to warm the bench for ages.

By the way, does this mean that he would end his career in River Plate? So, why won't he join them now, especially at that age? Maybe he wants to enjoy some green before heading to his back to Argentina.

Eventually, if I'm looking at the whole issue form the personal point of view, this doesn't mean that I disvalue him as a player. Also, we have to concentrate on players' performances not their personal desires, I agree with this despite what I said above which contradicts what I'm saying now. But, I'm sorry, I'm a human being. After following the likes of Del Piero and Nedved, I've to say to the likes of Crespo, NO.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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#60
I dont want Crespo on loan....only a permanent deal
A loan move makes sense if we get Huntelaar as well. We'd have a proven Serie A goalscorer in Crespo and this will ease the pressure on Klaas Jan, who can then make the goalscoring role his own the season after that.
 
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