Corporal Punishment (13 Viewers)

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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#41
Depends on the situation

Not on young kids. I've taken numerous psych classes and I have never heard of any benefits of using corporal punishment. Even minor physical discipline is not a great way to raise healthy well adjusted children.

In some states and its limited.

Never. Not once.
Psychology is entirely against corporal punishment. But then again the only headway they've made with serial killers is determining they suffer from anti-social disorder.
 

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Gamaro

The Arabian Knight
Aug 6, 2007
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#42
So i was at the supermarket to pick up some groceries yesterday & this kid, probably 9/10 called his mom a bitch, in public. I was really tempted to slap that little ginger ninja but his mom just ran out crying.

Now i would have caught an epic ass whooping from my parents had i done that when i was that age.Also i got whippings with a cane during my primary school days for constant misbehavior.

Do you think corporal punishment is wrong?

Do you think it can be justified?

Is it allowed in your country?

Did you get a regular butt kicking like i did, when you were younger?
In fact,your questions have the answers within it,but yet i would answer


No,it is not per se,but sometimes it can be

Yes,it can be.

It is allowed in most of the countries.

Yes i did,but not like u,maybe more painful.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#44
No, they are by default irrational and have poor judgment.

Sometimes words are not enough to make kids understand whats right and whats wrong.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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#46
No, they are by default irrational and have poor judgment.

Sometimes words are not enough to make kids understand whats right and whats wrong.
The same applies to adults, dude.

The fact is that if we accept that corporal punishment is acceptable, then this is the only type of violence in society that is sanctioned. Think about it, police beating pedestrians? Not okay. Prison guards beating prisoners? Not okay. Military beating war prisoners? Not okay (Geneva convention). But parents beating kids? That's okay.

In other words, you sanction violence against the very weakest group in society, a group that can't defend itself. And by perpetrators who already have huge psychological power over the victims without even making it physical.

It's sick, that's what it is.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#47
The same applies to adults, dude.

The fact is that if we accept that corporal punishment is acceptable, then this is the only type of violence in society that is sanctioned. Think about it, police beating pedestrians? Not okay. Prison guards beating prisoners? Not okay. Military beating war prisoners? Not okay (Geneva convention). But parents beating kids? That's okay.

In other words, you sanction violence against the very weakest group in society, a group that can't defend itself. And by perpetrators who already have huge psychological power over the victims without even making it physical.

It's sick, that's what it is.
Woah, theres absolutely no comparison between corporal punishment for kids and all the other examples you mentioned. For one, beating kids isn't what you make it out to be, acceptable corporal punishment does not leave any scars or long term bruises or anything like that. For example, my dad used to kick me in the buttocks :D, that never left any long term harm but it did make me more disciplined and it did make me understand that what i did was wrong, and that if i did it again, there would be consequences.
 

Buck Fuddy

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May 22, 2009
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#48
So what would you do if you had a kid that slapped your wife, swore at her or even spat at her?
Do you really think grounding the kid or giving them time out would work?
If your kid acts in such a way, you, as a parent, have screwed up earlier in his/her upbringing. That's what I would think at least.
Then resorting to physical punishment seems like the "easy" way out for a parent, almost helpless even.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#49
If he got a slap to the back of the head the first time he did something like that, he won't repeat it again. Because he will understand that the two events are connected, "calling his parents a bad name" = "slap to the back of the head"
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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#51
Woah, theres absolutely no comparison between corporal punishment for kids and all the other examples you mentioned. For one, beating kids isn't what you make it out to be, acceptable corporal punishment does not leave any scars or long term bruises or anything like that. For example, my dad used to kick me in the buttocks :D, that never left any long term harm but it did make me more disciplined and it did make me understand that what i did was wrong, and that if i did it again, there would be consequences.
By the same token I can argue that police beating people on the street can make sure they don't leave any marks, does that make it okay?

Like I said, it's the only form of violence we consider accepting. It's not right.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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#52
As if slapping is the only way to teach your kid something. I don't buy that.
Well if you have a dog you can't sit the dog down and explain to it that it's wrong to do something. So the parent who applies the same logic is treating his kid as if the kid has the same level of intelligence as a dog. In other words, the parent doesn't think much of his own genes.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#53
As if slapping is the only way to teach your kid something. I don't buy that.
Its not the only way. But in some cases it might be necessary.

Reasoning with some kids just doesn't work.

By the same token I can argue that police beating people on the street can make sure they don't leave any marks, does that make it okay?

Like I said, it's the only form of violence we consider accepting. It's not right.
No once people are grown up, they are responsible for their own actions. Plus, even as a kid, getting beat by anyone other than your parents is not acceptable, unless parents consent to someone else(school for example) to disciplining their kid outside home.
 
Aug 1, 2003
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#54
Parents aren't perfect, right upbringing goes a long way and is a major factor but fact is that a child is his/her own self, their own characteristics, even at a young age they will decide what they do, no matter how much parenting you give (although this parenting is a major factor.) So you can't really say just because a kid does something bad it's their parents' fault, what parents should do is rectify them. Personally, I think it's okay to give a beating to a child, not regularly, but for something they should never, ever repeat again - if you beat your child on a regular basis it defeats the purpose, they get used to the physical pain. But if you do it only on certain cases they, well at least I, got the idea that I've done something terribly wrong and that I never should do that again. And I haven't.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#55
Same here, i rarely got beat by my parents, but when i did, its when i did something really wrong.

In contrast with what happened in my school, where beatings with a cane or a ruler where almost a daily fixture, i didn't care much anymore about getting hit in school, instead getting beat was what happened to the "cool" kids in school.
 

Buck Fuddy

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May 22, 2009
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#56
Well if you have a dog you can't sit the dog down and explain to it that it's wrong to do something. So the parent who applies the same logic is treating his kid as if the kid has the same level of intelligence as a dog. In other words, the parent doesn't think much of his own genes.
What a coincidence, I was going to post something along the lines of "are we talking about raising a kid or a dog here?", but decided not to because it might have sounded a bit harsh :D

Its not the only way. But in some cases it might be necessary.
Reasoning with some kids just doesn't work.
Who said anything about reasoning?
Of course reasoning with kids doesn't always work, simply because what you believe to reasonable or logic is different from how a (young) child looks at things.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#57
Exactly, so a smack to the back of the head makes the kid link the action to a negative consequence, and therefore the chance that he will repeat the action again is lower.
 

Buck Fuddy

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May 22, 2009
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#60
Prohibiting them something, taking something away, raising your voice perhaps, explaining somtehing to the kid (not the same as reasoning), ...

Endless possibilities, depening on age & other circumstances.
 

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