Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (73 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Maximizing my natural immunity and getting the booster once that immunity wanes.

Oh okay, I didn't know the booster could negate the effects of your natural immunity. I figured you could get a booster now to add on to the natural immunity then get another booster later. Covid could never touch you again.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Oh okay, I didn't know the booster could negate the effects of your natural immunity. I figured you could get a booster now to add on to the natural immunity then get another booster later. Covid could never touch you again.

I'm not saying that it negates it. But if you get a booster today, why go get another booster in 3 weeks when it lasts longer?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'm not saying that it negates it. But if you get a booster today, why go get another booster in 3 weeks when it lasts longer?

Idk man, it's free and harmless. The more the better, some would say.

 

[Bjerknes]

Idk man, it's free and harmless. The more the better, some would say.

Yeah, I don't know, part of me doesn't want to feel like shit for a day either.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Yeah, I don't know, part of me doesn't want to feel like shit for a day either.

Well I just had Covid too. I'm sure if I want to travel later this year they're not gonna give a fuck about that and make me get juiced up again anyway.

 

[Bjerknes]

Nope. That's not how it works. You must be aware of what they're injecting you with. Since Andy already contracted Covid, he possesses natural immunity, so it would be counter intuitive to receive a booster shot now. In all likelihood, it would increase his viral load, rendering him more vulnerable to future iterations of the virus.

My friend in Switzerland had it bad with Covid, but the government didn't allow him to receive the vaccine because he'd already been exposed to the virus, so his body had natural immunity for at least 6 months, potentially up to a year.

And that's what I'm trying to get at. Maybe there isn't enough research on it, but to me natural immunity would be just as good, or better, than getting the vaccine. Even boosted people are getting Omicron as well, so while I believe in the vaccines, I don't know if it makes sense for me in this point in time.

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Well I just had Covid too. I'm sure if I want to travel later this year they're not gonna give a fuck about that and make me get juiced up again anyway.

That is true. I plan on going back to Europe in the Spring, so I might need the booster at that point for that reason as well.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

So I'm struggling with whether or not I should get the booster right now. I was fully vaccinated in April of last year, then 7 months later, right on cue, I ended up getting most likely the Delta variant. I was fully recovered within a couple weeks, which would have been around December 10th. From the studies I'm reading, I could have natural immunity from anywhere between 3 months and a full year. According to this Japanese study, my timing of everything, from vaccine to Covid, could actually be the perfect scenario of immunity since the longer-serving cells would have gained better memory from that 6-7 months of lapse between vaccine and infection.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00004-x

So to me, I don't see any point in getting the booster right now and would rather wait for a few more months. I'd rather not get the booster at all, but will probably have to eventually, unless Omicron is seriously the last variant.

Personally, I don't think getting it would make much of a difference in your case. Also remember that all currently available vaccines are created with the original strain in mind. I'd wait but that's just me.

 

[swag]

You would think someone in this position might value knowing even a small amount about the ongoing global pandemic before they open their mouth about it?

Just goes to highlight that the Dunning-Kruger effect is human and doesn’t exclude Supreme Court justices.

So I'm struggling with whether or not I should get the booster right now. I was fully vaccinated in April of last year, then 7 months later, right on cue, I ended up getting most likely the Delta variant. I was fully recovered within a couple weeks, which would have been around December 10th. From the studies I'm reading, I could have natural immunity from anywhere between 3 months and a full year. According to this Japanese study, my timing of everything, from vaccine to Covid, could actually be the perfect scenario of immunity since the longer-serving cells would have gained better memory from that 6-7 months of lapse between vaccine and infection.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00004-x

So to me, I don't see any point in getting the booster right now and would rather wait for a few more months. I'd rather not get the booster at all, but will probably have to eventually, unless Omicron is seriously the last variant.

You seemed to have a pretty crummy case of it too. Nothing too serious, but a nuisance.

I’m no doctor. But the downside of getting a booster is mostly just your time. So it’s minimal. That said, who knows what booster will be relevant in 6 months. Variants keep mutating all the time. And arguably you’ve experienced a more recent strain than the supply chain of the current boosters have been optimized for.

So I might wait a bit even just for protections that are more relevant to the time.

 

[Bjerknes]

Just goes to highlight that the Dunning-Kruger effect is human and doesn’t exclude Supreme Court justices.



You seemed to have a pretty crummy case of it too. Nothing too serious, but a nuisance.

I’m no doctor. But the downside of getting a booster is mostly just your time. So it’s minimal. That said, who knows what booster will be relevant in 6 months. Variants keep mutating all the time. And arguably you’ve experienced a more recent strain than the supply chain of the current boosters have been optimized for.

So I might wait a bit even just for protections that are more relevant to the time.

That's another good point. I'm sure I've already been exposed to Omicron as well, so let's see what the next variant is.

 

[s4tch]

That's another good point. I'm sure I've already been exposed to Omicron as well, so let's see what the next variant is.

here some experts say that you might wanna take an antibody test before getting a booster. high level of antibodies: don't bother with the booster, low level: go for it. that's the general advice since everyone's antibody level is different and the drop isn't uniform either.

 

[IliveForJuve]

I've been called an oxymoron
Because I question which drugs our war's on
Why are there more drug stores than liquor stores you can score on
The healers have become the harmers
They're just pharmaceutical farmers
What we used to call dealers
We now call doctors
I might be a CD Cynic
'Cause that crack house is now a clinic
It's time they change the name of the oath to
The hypocritic or the parasitic

It isn't Adderalltruistic
By overprescribing
How can we fight them in a Suboxone ring
I'll throw a Prozacuzation
With a Subketamining
They'll say my fears are Quaaludacris
They should be Ativanishing

 

[IliveForJuve]

Spoiler

With every Demeroltercation
They'll have a good Xanaxplanation
You're just Cialistrated
'Cause we made your dick deflated

It should be doctors getting busted
For their Klonopinions we trusted
We're not the sinners, they're the ones
That served us the Vicodinners
I don't want to be an alarmist
But in that harmacy there's a harmacist
And those scripts are making us Paximple minded pacifists

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Spain Calls for Debate to Consider Covid as Endemic, Like Flu

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-debate-to-consider-covid-as-endemic-like-flu

 

[petersmit]

Finally

 

[icemaη]

Spain Calls for Debate to Consider Covid as Endemic, Like Flu

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-debate-to-consider-covid-as-endemic-like-flu

While not declaring it endemic yet, India is also moving towards something similar. We are seeing a big surge in number of cases, but hospitalisation rates are still fairly low. Tests are only being made mandatory for people travelling internationally or for people with symptoms. Earlier all primary contacts were tested. Quarantine period for positive cases has been reduced to 7 days from 10-14 days.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59960689

 

[GordoDeCentral]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59960689

Officially a shithole.

 

[JuveJay]

While not declaring it endemic yet, India is also moving towards something similar. We are seeing a big surge in number of cases, but hospitalisation rates are still fairly low. Tests are only being made mandatory for people travelling internationally or for people with symptoms. Earlier all primary contacts were tested. Quarantine period for positive cases has been reduced to 7 days from 10-14 days.

Same as the UK tbh, now 7 days and some "experts" think we are close to it being in endemic territory.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Officially a shithole.

At least it's not being forced, so it's still okay.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Just read that a Canadian man is revoced the right to see his child because he isn’t vaccinated.