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Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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What video? Please link.

Thoroughly enjoyed seven's, Gordon's, lgor's and some of bjernkes' posts in this thread. I'd also like to read about their take on handling the Spanish flu.
I don't understand your point? I'd enforce a very strict quarantine, but the spanish flu was completely different from corona.

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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An eye-opening article on some new developments on the damage covid-19 does to the human body. Especially recommended to people, who think covid-19 is like a seasonal flu, attacks only the elderly, or people with underlying conditions, etc.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/22/coronavirus-blood-clots/


The article refers to covid-19 as a virus. This is wrong. Covid-19 is the disease. It's an important distinction, because not everyone gets the disease. No one has ever said covid-19 wasn't serious in some cases.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Life with corona fucking sucks.

And I don't mean necessarily having corona, but living in a world that has corona. I'm so sick of the news 24/7 talking about it, speculations, fake cures, real and fake tests, politicians trying to look like heroes. Everything. Just fuck corona.
 

lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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Life with corona fucking sucks.

And I don't mean necessarily having corona, but living in a world that has corona. I'm so sick of the news 24/7 talking about it, speculations, fake cures, real and fake tests, politicians trying to look like heroes. Everything. Just fuck corona.
I am enjoying that football is gone. Feels like a vacation from frustration
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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Can’t remember a more disastrous interview for a politician than this.
I'm telling ya, the Republicans got it wrong with Obamacare ... Americans want their death panels.

The article refers to covid-19 as a virus. This is wrong. Covid-19 is the disease. It's an important distinction, because not everyone gets the disease. No one has ever said covid-19 wasn't serious in some cases.
Precisely. I've found a few sloppy publications that haven't picked up on this distinction. And not just by accident, but by using explainers calling COVID-19 "a virus" or calling SARS-CoV-2 a disease.

It's bad enough for all the armchair epidemiologists, but knowing the difference between SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19 is pretty basic. I can only imagine how long it took them to get that HIV and AIDS weren't the same thing.

I am enjoying that football is gone. Feels like a vacation from frustration
And all the shite tourists who crap on everything and act like loudmouthed, drunken douchebags.
 
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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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    Ouch, it’s a pretty typical liberal hit piece, but he is right about our social safety net about to break.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...rd-world-country-joseph-stiglitz-donald-trump
    We aren't heading towards another great depression because of the social safety network being poor, but instead because our economy is literally shut down. We have no economy now. I guess that concept is really difficult to understand for "top economists" who think government is the economy.
     

    Enron

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    We aren't heading towards another great depression because of the social safety network being poor, but instead because our economy is literally shut down. We have no economy now. I guess that concept is really difficult to understand for "top economists" who think government is the economy.
    either way the rich and still rich and the poor are still poor
     

    Hust

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    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...ign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=042220

    Results A total of 5700 patients were included (median age, 63 years [interquartile range {IQR}, 52-75; range, 0-107 years]; 39.7% female). The most common comorbidities were hypertension (3026; 56.6%), obesity (1737; 41.7%), and diabetes (1808; 33.8%). At triage, 30.7% of patients were febrile, 17.3% had a respiratory rate greater than 24 breaths/minute, and 27.8% received supplemental oxygen. The rate of respiratory virus co-infection was 2.1%. Outcomes were assessed for 2634 patients who were discharged or had died at the study end point. During hospitalization, 373 patients (14.2%) (median age, 68 years [IQR, 56-78]; 33.5% female) were treated in the intensive care unit care, 320 (12.2%) received invasive mechanical ventilation, 81 (3.2%) were treated with kidney replacement therapy, and 553 (21%) died. Mortality for those requiring mechanical ventilation was 88.1%. The median postdischarge follow-up time was 4.4 days (IQR, 2.2-9.3). A total of 45 patients (2.2%) were readmitted during the study period. The median time to readmission was 3 days (IQR, 1.0-4.5) for readmitted patients. Among the 3066 patients who remained hospitalized at the final study follow-up date (median age, 65 years [IQR, 54-75]), the median follow-up at time of censoring was 4.5 days (IQR, 2.4-8.1).

    https://time.com/5825485/coronavirus-risk-factors/


    Graph:

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    Bjerknes

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    either way the rich and still rich and the poor are still poor
    I'm not sure how expectations of that would change because of a virus.

    The guy said that if we had the right policy structure in place, a depression could be avoided. How? If you shutdown an economy for two years, you have a depression since you have recessions quarter over quarter. The government can't really change that unless they reopen the economy.
    Essentially, his point is that if you die in a car accident, you died because some people have no insurance. :bianconero:Doesn't make any sense, but that's not his job.
     

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