Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (150 Viewers)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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My shit's indefinite. Plus we laid off 25% of our workforce last week (temporarily they say).
I started working for a new law firm in January. They're known for having a huge workload and many people did not want to go there, despite the very decent wages. Many lawyers preferred softer workplaces, where they might rip you off, but you don't have to work as hard.

In January everyone thought I was crazy to want to work for such a firm.

Today everybody wants to be my friend.

People are scared.

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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770+ deaths in one day wtf :shifty:
As soon as tens of thousands of otherwise young 20-60 year olds start dying, I'll consider the way we're handling this as a society appropriate.

Fear is not helping us.

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X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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As soon as tens of thousands of otherwise young 20-60 year olds start dying, I'll consider the way we're handling this as a society appropriate.

Fear is not helping us.

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I don't follow. You think we are overreacting right now?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I don't follow. You think we are overreacting right now?
No. It's a serious virus and it is killing people.

The vast majority of (European) casualties are over 80 however.

There is no reason to shut down our entire economy because old people die. Let me make this easy to understand: old people die all the time. And you know why? Because being old makes you frail and weak.

Do we need to take general measures? Absolutely. We need to do everything we can to protect people.

But did we need to shut down schools and essentially destroy the careers of 20-30 year olds? No, we did not. In fact a lot of scientists even advised against closing schools.

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X Æ A-12

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No. It's a serious virus and it is killing people.

The vast majority of (European) casualties are over 80 however.

There is no reason to shut down our entire economy because old people die. Let me make this easy to understand: old people die all the time. And you know why? Because being old makes you frail and weak.

Do we need to take general measures? Absolutely. We need to do everything we can to protect people.

But did we need to shut down schools and essentially destroy the careers of 20-30 year olds? No, we did not. In fact a lot of scientists even advised against closing schools.

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the official death projections (both ones which anticipate no safety measures vs active safety measures) seem to be larger than just some immuno compromised 80 year olds
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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the official death projections (both ones which anticipate no safety measures vs active safety measures) seem to be larger than just some immuno compromised 80 year olds
Sure.

But think about the nature of this virus. This isn't going to be gone in september. Or january 2021. It'll just keep returning. Hell, it might mutate and become more deadly.

Shutting everything down just isn't the solution.

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campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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As soon as tens of thousands of otherwise young 20-60 year olds start dying, I'll consider the way we're handling this as a society appropriate.

Fear is not helping us.

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No. It's a serious virus and it is killing people.

The vast majority of (European) casualties are over 80 however.

There is no reason to shut down our entire economy because old people die. Let me make this easy to understand: old people die all the time. And you know why? Because being old makes you frail and weak.

Do we need to take general measures? Absolutely. We need to do everything we can to protect people.

But did we need to shut down schools and essentially destroy the careers of 20-30 year olds? No, we did not. In fact a lot of scientists even advised against closing schools.

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That is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
Not even Trump is this dumb.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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Sure.

But think about the nature of this virus. This isn't going to be gone in september. Or january 2021. It'll just keep returning. Hell, it might mutate and become more deadly.

Shutting everything down just isn't the solution.

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I hear you but isn't the plan to minimize exposure to try and keep the sick down to a manageable amount at any one time? almost all of us will become exposed at some point and most will barely even get sick/ or develope antibodies but this way there is never too big an amount of the at risk population piling up outside hospitals?

Without intervention the projections for dead in the US would be 2 million. Nobody in government can just let that happen.

Another thing to consider is the growing consensus that China has been lying about this and the virus could be even deadlier and more transmissible then we know. That china's official numbers may be 1/20th to 1/40th of the actual count.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Sure.

But think about the nature of this virus. This isn't going to be gone in september. Or january 2021. It'll just keep returning. Hell, it might mutate and become more deadly.

Shutting everything down just isn't the solution.

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Neither is letting the virus overrun the health system. You can google the reports. That also ends in tragedy.

I think we're past the point of what you're suggesting, at least here in the US and other countries in the same position as us. Sure if proper testing and tracking had been done on a larger scale at the beginning of all this you could make an argument for returning to life as normal. At the moment there are too many variables that we don't know. So far what we do know is yes the disease kills very old people at a higher frequency than people in other age groups. However, it kills people in all age groups at a higher frequency than any other "seasonal" disease and continuing life as normal probably puts us in the exact same economical position as we're in now.
 

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