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Bjerknes

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    Yeah, I don't even blame Trump tbh. I honestly think every president would have done the same, despite the whole thing being total shit.

    As for the "big plans" it surely won't be anything good. If anything it's gonna be a higher debt or another twitter lie in order to try to return the trust amongst buyers.
    I blame Trump, because you can't go from saying QE stimulus doesn't work 7 years ago and then turn around and suggest that it works now. That's just pathetic. Any QE or asset-recapitalization for the banks to help "prop up the economy" is nothing but a tax on Americans and won't do anything other than allow the banks to short the market and recoup their long oil trades. And it won't even stop with the banksters... airlines, cruise liners, oil companies -- I wouldn't be surprised if they try bailing them all out in some way or another.

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    sounded like he said he was going to do something to help hourly workers. something really big.
    It sounds like he may cut or suspend the payroll tax. But that won't help matters when... wait for... all your service economy workers aren't working.

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    Good question. So basically everyone at that center has the virus. That's pretty crazy.

     

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    I blame Trump, because you can't go from saying QE stimulus doesn't work 7 years ago and then turn around and suggest that it works now. That's just pathetic. Any QE or asset-recapitalization for the banks to help "prop up the economy" is nothing but a tax on Americans and won't do anything other than allow the banks to short the market and recoup their long oil trades. And it won't even stop with the banksters... airlines, cruise liners, oil companies -- I wouldn't be surprised if they try bailing them all out in some way or another.

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    It sounds like he may cut or suspend the payroll tax. But that won't help matters when... wait for... all your service economy workers aren't working.

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    Good question. So basically everyone at that center has the virus. That's pretty crazy.

    it’s a shit show
     
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    Bjerknes

    Bjerknes

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    Bailouts for hotels, airlines, etc incoming
    Day 1: Economy is strong, no worry of a recession.
    Day 2: Economy is strong, no worry of a recession.
    Day 3: Monitoring the economy, but fundamentals are strong.
    Day 4: We need federal relief for X industry

    Sound familiar?

     

    acmilan

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    Nov 8, 2005
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    lol bailouts. Fuck me. Here goes again, socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor
    You misspelled "freedom", you communist bi*ch

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    I blame Trump, because you can't go from saying QE stimulus doesn't work 7 years ago and then turn around and suggest that it works now. That's just pathetic. Any QE or asset-recapitalization for the banks to help "prop up the economy" is nothing but a tax on Americans and won't do anything other than allow the banks to short the market and recoup their long oil trades. And it won't even stop with the banksters... airlines, cruise liners, oil companies -- I wouldn't be surprised if they try bailing them all out in some way or another.

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    It sounds like he may cut or suspend the payroll tax. But that won't help matters when... wait for... all your service economy workers aren't working.

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    Good question. So basically everyone at that center has the virus. That's pretty crazy.

    Day 1: Economy is strong, no worry of a recession.
    Day 2: Economy is strong, no worry of a recession.
    Day 3: Monitoring the economy, but fundamentals are strong.
    Day 4: We need federal relief for X industry

    Sound familiar?

    Just out of curiosity, did you get your DNA re-engineered over the past day or two, by any chance?
     

    acmilan

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    I think Andy’s been pretty consistently anti big government which means against corporation bailouts.
    The whole Trump shit-show of an experience has been a study in usurping and misuse of government power, aided by a complete disregard for virtually every institutional and constitutional barrier that had been put there to prevent exactly that. I don't remember Andy saying a chirp about that.

    Now all of a sudden Andy is ganging up on the same guy, whose dick people couldn't pull out of Andy's ass with a freight train going the other way, just until a day or two ago?
    I was just wondering what's changed over that time period? Is this just a matter of temporal coincidence or did Andy all of a sudden grow a conscience?

    Best guess is, it's neither of that - it's just than Andy's allegiance has always come at a price and his rendezvous with Trump was over the minute Trump's idiocy finally, and inevitably, hit Andy in the wallet.
    That is, the one thing that has always been consistent about Andy is that he is a shameless hypocrite. It just so happens that now his hypocrisy comes with a price-tag attached to it.
     

    ALC

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    The whole Trump shit-show of an experience has been a study in usurping and misuse of government power, aided by a complete disregard for virtually every institutional and constitutional barrier that had been put there to prevent exactly that. I don't remember Andy saying a chirp about that.

    Now all of a sudden Andy is ganging up on the same guy, whose dick people couldn't pull out of Andy's ass with a freight train going the other way, just until a day or two ago?
    I was just wondering what's changed over that time period? Is this just a matter of temporal coincidence or did Andy all of a sudden grow a conscience?

    Best guess is, it's neither of that - it's just than Andy's allegiance has always come at a price and his rendezvous with Trump was over the minute Trump's idiocy finally, and inevitably, hit Andy in the wallet.
    That is, the one thing that has always been consistent about Andy is that he is a shameless hypocrite. It just so happens that now his hypocrisy comes with a price-tag attached to it.
    you might be right. he’s the only one that can answer that.

    I never understood how people supported trump to being with but I did see a point in “draining the swamp”. Trump somehow did the opposite, he filled it with his scum.
     

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    only people i know that ever supported Trump didn't even seem to like him/ his policies just wanted to stick it to the llibs or who they saw as establishment politicians. Turns out that alone was not a great reason to vote for someone.
     
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    Bjerknes

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    The whole Trump shit-show of an experience has been a study in usurping and misuse of government power, aided by a complete disregard for virtually every institutional and constitutional barrier that had been put there to prevent exactly that. I don't remember Andy saying a chirp about that.

    Now all of a sudden Andy is ganging up on the same guy, whose dick people couldn't pull out of Andy's ass with a freight train going the other way, just until a day or two ago?
    I was just wondering what's changed over that time period? Is this just a matter of temporal coincidence or did Andy all of a sudden grow a conscience?

    Best guess is, it's neither of that - it's just than Andy's allegiance has always come at a price and his rendezvous with Trump was over the minute Trump's idiocy finally, and inevitably, hit Andy in the wallet.
    That is, the one thing that has always been consistent about Andy is that he is a shameless hypocrite. It just so happens that now his hypocrisy comes with a price-tag attached to it.
    My stance on monetary policy and bailouts have been consistent dating back to the 2008 Financial Crisis, so I'm not really sure what you're on about. Did you change your Commie Rossonero tampon yet?
     

    Ronn

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    This is what needs to be done, not fucking bailouts

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    NY is now number 1 in the US in diagnosed cases with 142 confirmed.

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    This is beyond scary
     
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    ALC

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    That story is sad. People need to voice that more. We’re refusing to run tests to keep the numbers low. Fucking third world countries are doing a better job than the US in taking care of their people, that’s ridiculous
     
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    Bjerknes

    Bjerknes

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    This is what needs to be done, not fucking bailouts
    Targeted help for the healthcare industry and hospital groups is technically a bailout. Just saying.

    The CDC should at least be able to test more and give us a more accurate number on case levels.
     

    Ronn

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    Targeted help for the healthcare industry and hospital groups is technically a bailout. Just saying.

    The CDC should at least be able to test more and give us a more accurate number on case levels.
    Yes. Unfortunately if you turn public health sector into a completely for-profit business you may not have better options.
     

    JCK

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    So one co-worker on our floor sent an email today that he is working from home because his son who was in Austria skiing tested positive. That co-worker was here yesterday, he used the same toilers that the rest of us use, he pressed the same buttons on the same coffee machines that we all use and he was around on the floor the entire day.

    Shit is scary.
     
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    Bjerknes

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    So one co-worker on our floor sent an email today that he is working from home because his son who was in Austria skiing tested positive. That co-worker was here yesterday, he used the same toilers that the rest of us use, he pressed the same buttons on the same coffee machines that we all use and he was around on the floor the entire day.

    Shit is scary.
    Jesus, good luck man. Hopefully he was being careful himself if he suspected his son had the virus. But then why even go into work in the first place?

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    Yes. Unfortunately if you turn public health sector into a completely for-profit business you may not have better options.
    I think it starts with the CDC. Everyone knows the hospitals don't seem to be prepared for this, but hospital stocks haven't been hit that hard -- yet. I don't really know what the CDC is doing in working with hospitals for preparedness, maybe little or nothing.
     
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