Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (57 Viewers)

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,540
A private company with a program funded by $950M of American debt, with all the profits and stock capitalization to only be realized by shareholders and not the federal govt. Who says capitalism doesn't work? This is how Russian oligarchs got to where they are.

Capitalism works when you work for the capitalists.
Zero risk maximum rewards
 

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ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
45,985
And if it doesn’t work, we can always bail the company out using taxpayer money.

socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor, that’s America
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
It's really eye-opening in many ways. But that's a wide question. Can you make it more specific?
I'll ask in this fred.

Are you in the herd immunity, economy first, sacrifice the old and weak and poor, pro Trump, pro HCL camp?

Or in the flattening the curve, only health matters now, shut everything down, masks made mandatory, pro bill gates one? (I assume everyone is anti WHO)

How do you think Belgium has handled it?
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I'll ask in this fred.

Are you in the herd immunity, economy first, sacrifice the old and weak and poor, pro Trump, pro HCL camp?

Or in the flattening the curve, only health matters now, shut everything down, masks made mandatory, pro bill gates one? (I assume everyone is anti WHO)

How do you think Belgium has handled it?
Belgium :

- Our goverment is a fucking joke and ridiculous. This is common knowledge, but it was reaffirmed
- We used to have a very large stock of chirurgical masks
- Stock was burned some time ago. Reason unclear (too many stories).
- Nobody replenished the stock. Nobody acted when Wuhan was getting a complete viral warzone. Nobody acted when Italian ER's were showing the horror.
- COVID breaks out
- Realise we have no masks, 5 ministers of health (yes we got 5) try to order masks, preferably shady organisations
- Leading virologist claiming masks have no purpose and shouldnt be used
- Covid is talked down
- Suddenly covid is very bad and we go in soft and full lockdown : people are confused
- after beeing scammed (yes, we got scammed 3 times), we got masks comming in
- suddenly masks are key to the exit strategy
- We move out of lockdown
- people sont listen to the measures
-weak ass politicians tolerate it
- we get second waves



Approach

- Phase 1 : go into lockdown. Study the characteristics of the virus.
- Phase 1 : completely isolate susceptible targets which are easily identified. Immuno compromised people and elderly people
- Phase 2 : go out of lockdown controlled. Make people weak masks and establish strict protocol. Inform the population extremely good on what we are doing, and why. And why we are going to be very strict
- Phase 2 : No toleration. 1 warning, and then the fine. prosecute multiple offenders. Make sure the masks are CHEAP, and usable for everyone. Hand out free masks to homeless people and people on social support.

--> this approach would limit the economical damage. Protect realistic amount of susceptible people in phase 1 and all of them in phase 2.


Trump

Trump says awfull stuff, and does something usefull things. Its exhausting if you have to check this each time. I dont know what he actually did in the US for covid. All i know is that the US has huge infections and deaths, and alot of idiots.

I fully support him calling out the WHO about china. Not sure if the timing is good,
 
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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I wonder how much Zach can OH squat now
I don't do those. Focusing on deadlifts. So normal and SSB squats

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According to @Seven, let all old people die and then what? Throw em in the backyard I guess? Teach the kids how decomposition works or something. Maybe even open them up so they can see how organs work.

Fun for the whole family! And if any young people die, throw em there too, why the fuck not?
It's actually what we did in Belgium.

One of the many aspects of the terrible approach our politicians took.
 

Fab Fragment

Senior Member
Dec 22, 2018
3,103
Belgium :

- Our goverment is a fucking joke and ridiculous. This is common knowledge, but it was reaffirmed
- We used to have a very large stock of chirurgical masks
- Stock was burned some time ago. Reason unclear (too many stories).
- Nobody replenished the stock. Nobody acted when Wuhan was getting a complete viral warzone. Nobody acted when Italian ER's were showing the horror.
- COVID breaks out
- Realise we have no masks, 5 ministers of health (yes we got 5) try to order masks, preferably shady organisations
- Leading virologist claiming masks have no purpose and shouldnt be used
- Covid is talked down
- Suddenly covid is very bad and we go in soft and full lockdown : people are confused
- after beeing scammed (yes, we got scammed 3 times), we got masks comming in
- suddenly masks are key to the exit strategy
- We move out of lockdown
- people sont listen to the measures
-weak ass politicians tolerate it
- we get second waves



Approach

- Phase 1 : go into lockdown. Study the characteristics of the virus.
- Phase 1 : completely isolate susceptible targets which are easily identified. Immuno compromised people and elderly people
- Phase 2 : go out of lockdown controlled. Make people weak masks and establish strict protocol. Inform the population extremely good on what we are doing, and why. And why we are going to be very strict
- Phase 2 : No toleration. 1 warning, and then the fine. prosecute multiple offenders. Make sure the masks are CHEAP, and usable for everyone. Hand out free masks to homeless people and people on social support.

--> this approach would limit the economical damage. Protect realistic amount of susceptible people in phase 1 and all of them in phase 2.


Trump

Trump says awfull stuff, and does something usefull things. Its exhausting if you have to check this each time. I dont know what he actually did in the US for covid. All i know is that the US has huge infections and deaths, and alot of idiots.

I fully support him calling out the WHO about china. Not sure if the timing is good,
5 health ministers?
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
41,827
@pavluska How was the party?

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2020/08/12/nashville-fashion-house-arrests/3352874001/

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Texas going strong. 324 deaths in last 24 hours which is a record high.
And somehow has decided less testing is the way to go. 42% less tests done last week compared to two weeks prior. 24.5% test positivity on 7 day rolling average. Trumpian tactics! :weee:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...reopen-amid-decline-covid-19-testing-n1236527
 
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pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
9, i was wrong, sorry

Belgium is a construct. We have a flemish region. a french region and a german region. and brussels. and then you can also splice it in two. and then there is the entire country

Summary :

1 federal minister of health (shes morbidly obese)
1 flemish minister of health
1 wallon region minister of health
2 wallon community ministers of health
1 german community minister of health
3 brussels ministers of health

total = 9 ministers of health
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
76,902
9, i was wrong, sorry

Belgium is a construct. We have a flemish region. a french region and a german region. and brussels. and then you can also splice it in two. and then there is the entire country

Summary :

1 federal minister of health (shes morbidly obese)
1 flemish minister of health
1 wallon region minister of health
2 wallon community ministers of health
1 german community minister of health
3 brussels ministers of health

total = 9 ministers of health
Welcome back bro :touched:

Please don’t get banned for 10 years again
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,540
9, i was wrong, sorry

Belgium is a construct. We have a flemish region. a french region and a german region. and brussels. and then you can also splice it in two. and then there is the entire country

Summary :

1 federal minister of health (shes morbidly obese)
1 flemish minister of health
1 wallon region minister of health
2 wallon community ministers of health
1 german community minister of health
3 brussels ministers of health

total = 9 ministers of health
Holy shit you weren't kidding
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