Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (76 Viewers)

[icemaη]

That’s what the hospital bills for. They can bill for a trillion dollars but they’re still going to get the same contracted rate from the insurance company.

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So if the contracted rate is $2 for an equine enema for a human, insurance is only going to pay $2 even if the hospital bills $100 for it.

The insurance company then proceeds to raise the premium through the roof. And then there are the deductibles.

 

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[Fab Fragment]

The insurance company then proceeds to raise the premium through the roof. And then there are the deductibles.

Exactly. It’s so ridiculous that for a family of four, a “reasonable” insurance plan costs $1200–1800 per month. Add to that the $3000-10000 deductibles before the copays start and even then you find out that many of the medicines and procedures are not covered.

 

[campionesidd]

Exactly. It’s so ridiculous that for a family of four, a “reasonable” insurance plan costs $1200–1800 per month. Add to that the $3000-10000 deductibles before the copays start and even then you find out that many of the medicines and procedures are not covered.

The thought of becoming bankrupt due to an ICU visit or emergency surgery is so disgusting. Don’t know how America puts up with it.

 

[Enron]

The thought of becoming bankrupt due to an ICU visit or emergency surgery is so disgusting. Don’t know how America puts up with it.

modern day death panels in the form of insurance company board rooms

 

[swag]

Keep all them redundant if not unnecessary insurance administrators, advertisers, marketers, form jockeys, claims deniers, and bureaucrats employed. Because that's how private industry invests in efficiency of care.

 

[JuveJay]

Someone received a $840,000 bill from the hospital for being in intensive care for two weeks what a joke

https://gulfnews.com/world/americas...0-bill-for-covid-19-treatment-1.1590912937054

Is there no quantification for cost in the US medical field? Is it literally big pharma makes up a number and that cost gets passed onto you once the hospital adds their percentage?

To put it into perspective, the average cost to the NHS for cancer treatment per person is about £30K ($37K).

 

[ALC]

Is there no quantification for cost in the US medical field? Is it literally big pharma makes up a number and that cost gets passed onto you once the hospital adds their percentage?

To put it into perspective, the average cost to the NHS for cancer treatment per person is about £30K ($37K).

yeah, if you read the article you see that hospitals just charge inflated costs and say screw it

 

[Lapa]

Someone received a $840,000 bill from the hospital for being in intensive care for two weeks what a joke

https://gulfnews.com/world/americas...0-bill-for-covid-19-treatment-1.1590912937054

What the fuck!?! Just really...

 

[JCK]

Are the 5G chips supposed to help us against the harmful 5G radiation? If so, I hope Bill comes out with them soon, can’t wait to take mine

Yes me too, I can't wait.

 

[Post Ironic]

Yes me too, I can't wait.

Dude. How have you been? Surviving this thing?

 

[Fab Fragment]

I hope all you guys in the USA are aware of Goodrx.com
Very good discounts. Just enter the meds you want and it gives you the discounted price at various pharmacies in your area.
A lot of times, this discounted price is less than the copay with your insurance.

 

[Post Ironic]

@kao_ray

First proper double blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study of hydroxychloroquine as a post-exposure prophylactic shows it has zero effect in preventing one from getting infected. Trump and his doctors are morons.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid19-hydroxychloroquine-who-1.5596689

Good news is that in healthy people without underlying issues they had no dangerous side effects. Nausea and gastro stuff only.

Sounds like we should also get results soon on a proper placebo-controlled study of its effectiveness as a treatment. Hopefully better news there.

 

[kao_ray]

@kao_ray

First proper double blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study of hydroxychloroquine as a post-exposure prophylactic shows it has zero effect in preventing one from getting infected. Trump and his doctors are morons.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid19-hydroxychloroquine-who-1.5596689

Good news is that in healthy people without underlying issues they had no dangerous side effects. Nausea and gastro stuff only.

Sounds like we should also get results soon on a proper placebo-controlled study of its effectiveness as a treatment. Hopefully better news there.

Finally, but the idea is HXQ and zinc to prevent a severe illness from Covid-19, the idea is not to prevent infection.

 

[Post Ironic]

Finally, but the idea is HXQ and zinc to prevent a severe illness from Covid-19, the idea is not to prevent infection.

Dude, you posted a week or so ago about how it could maybe be used as a prophylactic, which means to prevent infection at all. Which was also what that tweet about the Indian police you shared was referencing.

If we’re just talking about preventing mild cases from becoming severe than no one without a positive test should be taking it, and there would be no point in healthy people just randomly taking it.

 

[kao_ray]

Dude, you posted a week or so ago about how it could maybe be used as a prophylactic

Yep, my bad. It looks like it can't be prophylactic but only a therapeutic(if proven by medical trials).

 

[Post Ironic]

Yep, my bad. It looks like it can't be prophylactic but only as a therapeutic(if proven by medical trials).

Hopefully that HCl + Zinc combo works to keep it mild. Southern Hemisphere definitely needs it as they move into winter. America too after these protests lol.

Thankfully sunlight (vitamin d ) and warm temps seem to help a lot even if they don’t snuff it out completely

 

[kao_ray]

Hopefully that HCl + Zinc combo works to keep it mild. Southern Hemisphere definitely needs it as they move into winter. America too after these protests lol.

Thankfully sunlight (vitamin d ) and warm temps seem to help a lot even if they don’t snuff it out completely

Two months ago it seemed like it can't be stopped from spreading in the long run because this virus looked very contagious. Now it seems like this virus is spreading a lot slower and it could be snuffed out at some places. High density cities with lots of foreign traffic will be in danger, but other areas (like Eastern Europe and some parts of Central Europe for example) can stay relatively safe with clusters here and there.

There was a study which showed that only 5 % of Spanish population got the virus. Another recent study showed that in Stockholm only 7 % got it. Both studies looked for antibodies. According to latest data the infection death rate is between 0.4% and 1.2% and when I'm using this death rate and I look at the mortality in Eastern Europe, I can calculate that there (excluding Belarus) between 0.3 and 0.6% from the whole population have been infected. If this calculations are true, the virus can be stopped with simple measures. This means that international travel will be the biggest problem in the next years if there is no good vaccine or therapeutic.

Also about Eastern Europe - there is a theory that a vaccine which has been widely used against tuberculosis (BCG) there is helping to protect against Covid-19. This may also explain why there are not so many deaths in post Soviet countries . But who knows. Speculations are everywhere right now.

 

[JCK]

Dude. How have you been? Surviving this thing?

I am fine, thank you and yes so far surviving.

 

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[kao_ray]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials#maincontent

@Post Ironic

I don't know what the truth is but this is getting ridiculous.

Edit: it's not about the last study on hydroxycloroquine. But it shows that there is an agenda with it. Why? I have no idea.