Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (194 Viewers)

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
29,754
US officials were reportedly concerned that safety breaches at a Wuhan lab studying coronaviruses in bats could cause a pandemic

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...bout-safety-issues-in-wuhan-lab-report-2020-4

Now of course, the lab is in no way the confirmed point of origin for the virus, it is important to state this right at the beginning, but here is a hypothetical scenario. Lets say it comes out that the lab was indeed to blame, whether accidental or intentional, what actions should now be taken considering we now have a pandemic on our hands? I mean obviously we're not going to invade the country to depose their government, that would be an undertaking surpassing World War II. Sanctions would hurt the rest of the developed world just as much as it would them. Make them monetarily pay? They would probably just deny everything, and even if they were willing to, how do you monetarily quantify the global damage and loss of life? What really could be done at that point?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,290
US officials were reportedly concerned that safety breaches at a Wuhan lab studying coronaviruses in bats could cause a pandemic

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...bout-safety-issues-in-wuhan-lab-report-2020-4

Now of course, the lab is in no way the confirmed point of origin for the virus, it is important to state this right at the beginning, but here is a hypothetical scenario. Lets say it comes out that the lab was indeed to blame, whether accidental or intentional, what actions should now be taken considering we now have a pandemic on our hands? I mean obviously we're not going to invade the country to depose their government, that would be an undertaking surpassing World War II. Sanctions would hurt the rest of the developed world just as much as it would them. Make them monetarily pay? They would probably just deny everything, and even if they were willing to, how do you monetarily quantify the global damage and loss of life? What really could be done at that point?
Chernobyl seems the very obvious precedent...

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pavelnel

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2006
2,474
France's numbers are absolutely unreliable. Today they declared more than 17 000 new cases. How do they test, how much delay there is between the tests and the results - mystery. Get your shits together, France.
 

InterMerda

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2016
1,451
According to the trade association, 80% of all shops in Bavaria are smaller than 800 square meters. What's the number when you add all the big supermarkets that are still open anyway? I guess only big furniture stores and hardware stores are missing out, but they will just reduce the space in which they are selling down to the allowed 800 and are good to go too @lgorTudor
Just out of curiosity... How is the German government supporting people and/or businesses (especially small ones)?
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
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Just out of curiosity... How is the German government supporting people and/or businesses (especially small ones)?
with one-time payments
businesses with <5 employees get 9k€
businesses with 5-10 employees get 15k€
after 3 months these payments will get renewed if needed

also there is 'short work': employees can work 50% and still receive 80% of their normal wages because businesses will only have to pay 50% and government will top it up with another 30%
 
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acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
10,685
In all fairness, what Dr. Oz was referring to was a Lancet report claiming that school closures would be responsible for only 2-4% of total deaths (children, parents, teachers, family, and family friends), not 2-4% of children, who go to school. He didn't chose his word very well.
This being said, from what I can tell, the report relies on a best case scenario where the parents all stay at home i.e. the entire children-parents-teachers-family-family friends ecosystem is isolated and observes the stay-at-home rules to a t.
In reality, many parents, teachers, family friends, etc still go out and go to work as part of the so called essential work force, which opens up an entirely different can of worms, making those 2-4% of total deaths a pipe-dream.
 

Nomuken

NUMB
Contributor
Dec 14, 2009
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Here in Bosnia with nicer weather everyone behaves and everything seem like COVID-19 is at it's downfall and that's something to be afraid of. During the weekend I saw a bunch of people hanging out at mountains making barbecues and smoking hookah.

If it's to believe to current statistics we only have 1096 positive cases and 41 deaths, but it's obvious that for some reason (politics) we are hiding the real number and are not doing enough testings. Also our medical care is probably one of the worst in Europe, we lack equipment (even though it's not that bad), but because of the politics and director of our medical center most of the doctors we had quit their jobs and left, so we are now in the hands of inexperienced and scared ones.

I believe the worst is yet to come.
Hang in there OG :tup:
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,949
This country is not short of assholes for sure
always the black hoodie and a grenade near the macbook :lol:

If this particular buzzfeed 'journalist' focused more on the (planned) crimes committed by her own demographic her articles would come out more frequently than on a fortnightly basis
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
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always the black hoodie and a grenade near the macbook :lol:

If this particular buzzfeed 'journalist' focused more on the (planned) crimes committed by her own demographic her articles would come out more frequently than on a fortnightly basis
This is NPR. What are you on?
 

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