Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (62 Viewers)

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@Ronn

you were right about that Covid-19 prediction site. Way off for the US. They projected a peak of 2000 deaths in a day for 4 days ago, when that was passed they projected yesterday would be the peak at 2150 deaths... and that’s been significantly passed today with over 2400. And that was where the lowered figure of 60k deaths overall was coming from. Looks like they have revised that to 68k deaths based on the 2150 peak yesterday. But with serious/critical numbers going up ~1000 again today in the US, I find it hard to believe that even today is going to be the peak for deaths.

 

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[Ronn]

@Ronn

you were right about that Covid-19 prediction site. Way off for the US. They projected a peak of 2000 deaths in a day for 4 days ago, when that was passed they projected yesterday would be the peak at 2150 deaths... and that’s been significantly passed today with over 2400. And that was where the lowered figure of 60k deaths overall was coming from. Looks like they have revised that to 68k deaths based on the 2150 peak yesterday. But with serious/critical numbers going up ~1000 again today in the US, I find it hard to believe that even today is going to be the peak for deaths.

Their methodology is bullshit. It's a statistical data fit without using any underlying science. Such models at their best are as good as the available data on which they are trained on, which in this case is very unreliable.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

It's totally silent in my backyard right now, it's really eerie. I never realized how frequently planes flew overhead and how much noise they made.

 

[acmilan]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

New York City today has reported 3,778 additional deaths that have occurred since March 11 and have been classified as "probable," defined as follows: “decedent [...] had no known positive laboratory test for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) but the death certificate lists as a cause of death “COVID-19” or an equivalent" [source]. We will add these to the New York State total as soon as it is determined whether the historical distribution can be obtained

I suppose these deaths are the ones that lead to an increase of approximately 200 at-home-deaths per day, mentioned a few days ago.
With this, the total death toll in the US will go up to roughly 30K, with nearly half of those in New York alone.

 

[icemaη]

India is extending the initial 3 week lockdown till the 3rd of May. 377 deaths attributed to Covid-19 so far. Currently only essential services are open, like grocery stores and factories that make food products, ppes etc. In a week, some of the restrictions will be relaxed in areas that are not hotspots so that things can slowly start to function again.
More people have probably died of poverty than the virus at this point in the country (I'm just guessing here, since an overwhelming majority of the country work in the unorganised sector and are daily wagers). But all things considered, that's a positive trade off because a full scale pandemic would have decimated the country. Very few states here have the capacity to handle large number of sick people. We still haven't peaked yet. Hopefully the numbers still stay manageable.
The economy was doing pretty bad even before the lockdown, so it's going to be fucked once this is over.

 

[s4tch]

hungarian audi factory restarted the production yesterday. they introduced strict measures with distancing and protective equipment.

 

[Oggy]

Here in Bosnia with nicer weather everyone behaves and everything seem like COVID-19 is at it's downfall and that's something to be afraid of. During the weekend I saw a bunch of people hanging out at mountains making barbecues and smoking hookah.

If it's to believe to current statistics we only have 1096 positive cases and 41 deaths, but it's obvious that for some reason (politics) we are hiding the real number and are not doing enough testings. Also our medical care is probably one of the worst in Europe, we lack equipment (even though it's not that bad), but because of the politics and director of our medical center most of the doctors we had quit their jobs and left, so we are now in the hands of inexperienced and scared ones.

I believe the worst is yet to come.

 

[Ronn]

 

[swag]

It's not a cartoon so that you get it or don't. It's a nurse coming back from his shift, haunted probably by what happened in that shift.

I'm not sure that's any better than the average New Yorker cover, honestly.

We’re in good hands

Is it any wonder all the governors are going, "F%#% this sh%$. We're going commando."?

I’d never in my life vote for Biden under any circumstances but to get this lunatic out. It’s a shit show of epic proportions.

Biden is basically a Petri dish. As long as the Democrats can keep it alive and make its lips move in the lab, they feel that's a better shot at a working, functional president than Trump. They'd be right, but the bar is so low.

Well Trump is my favorite. Such an honest and genuine person, gives his heart and soul for this nation and its people.

Seriously, though, of the Dem candidates, my favorites were Bernie and Yang.
My absolute favorite is the current Cali governor, Gavin Newsome. Too bad he didn't run for President.

Only Republican politician I would bother to piss on if I saw him on fire is Romney. I may not agree with him on a number of things but he at least has some common decency and was pretty good as governor of Massachusetts when I was living there.

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I was kidding about Biden and Obama - was just imitating someone

The US would massacre someone like Newsom. Even if his ex-wife's birthday party got tons of Republicans CV-19 in Florida, he's a former SF mayor, governor of Cali ... things wide swaths of America despise on principle.

Fake wrestling an essential business. Only in ‘Murica

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Pro gun
Pro wrestling

I hope an asteroid crashes into Florida some day. What a fucked up place

Won't need to. Nature's swamp will reclaim it with climate change in a few years... so no worries.

OK, I liked that.

In other news, California has outlined a plan to re-open within the next month.

It's a good and reasonable vision. Smart of them to share it in advance too. Nobody else has had the balls to, strangely.

There will be freak-outs (how's a restaurant supposed to stay afloat with half tables empty, etc.), but I dare someone to put up or shut up and propose some better, realistic options.

Scapegoating or not, a welcomed move

https://us.yahoo.com/news/trump-announces-halt-us-funding-222750658.html

It fits Trump's modus operandi of being America's AIDS -- basically seeking out and destroying every semblance of an immune system America has to viruses and disease.

Still, if you're gonna crap on WHO, you have to look at the 194 clowns who put commerce and travel ahead of health with it in the first place:

https://pandemic.substack.com/p/the-2005-decision-that-made-the-2020

It's untenable and unsurprising.

 

[Ronn]

Iran's IRGC unveiling a COVID-19 detector

It's a fake bomb detector they're unveiling
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896

 

[Seven]

To show you just how much stupidity floats around regarding corona: in Belgium they count all 'suspicious' deaths as corona related deaths. Of all the people who died in retirement homes and are supposedly dead because of corona 2.8% was tested. Not to mention the fact that corona seems to be so contagious that the tests themselves have proven to be less than reliable.

The truth is we know almost nothing about this virus, apart from the fact it mainly targets the old and weak. Like pretty much any disease before it. We also know that it isn't going to disappear for at least a couple of years.

Should we take measures? Of course. Should we overhaul our entire society? I'm not so sure.

 

[ALC]

To show you just how much stupidity floats around regarding corona: in Belgium they count all 'suspicious' deaths as corona related deaths. Of all the people who died in retirement homes and are supposedly dead because of corona 2.8% was tested. Not to mention the fact that corona seems to be so contagious that the tests themselves have proven to be less than reliable.

The truth is we know almost nothing about this virus, apart from the fact it mainly targets the old and weak. Like pretty much any disease before it. We also know that it isn't going to disappear for at least a couple of years.

Should we take measures? Of course. Should we overhaul our entire society? I'm not so sure.

you mean like almost every other disease out there?

Did you ever stop to think how many of these old and weak people are in charge of running the world right now?

 

[Ronn]

@GordoDeCentral

 

[Enron]

Apparently antibody testing is pretty far out in the US. Trump administration had the FDA relax it’s rules and now antibody tests can be sold without submitting validation data. Which in turn allowed China to flood the market with bad tests.

You can’t make this shit up.

 

[swag]

you mean like almost every other disease out there?

Did you ever stop to think how many of these old and weak people are in charge of running the world right now?

Add poor people while you're at it.

But overhauling our societies? IMO, we need it. We were headed on a course of systemic collapse. And still are. And I am not even talking about the climate.

We've printed $186 trillion worth of money over the past 20 years [quantitative easing], to generate $46 trillion of GDP growth.

Today it's a complete mistake to sit on cash -- the rich are getting richer because you printing cash, so they are stuffing the pillowcases to the seams with property (jacking up the housing markets and rents because it's a piggy bank more than a place to live) and encouraging companies to throw their money into stock buybacks. Asset prices are artificially propped up on lots of debt built off business transactions amplified 20x due to banking margin limits. Debt is being created that can never be repaid, and now we're about to witness every government on the planet going bankrupt.

If you print money, that money has to “find a home”, e.g. real estate, so real estate prices go up and its users (tenants) get killed because they can’t pay their rent. Tons of people are below the access line, and this is driving a wedge between people who can financially access these alternative value storage mechanisms and the poor f%$&s who cannot and thus slide down further and further being able to access these same assets just to live ... not to build a rentier economy.

How do you keep that lie alive for long, CV-19 or not? The pitchforks and torches are coming.

 

[swag]

Apparently antibody testing is pretty far out in the US. Trump administration had the FDA relax it’s rules and now antibody tests can be sold without submitting validation data. Which in turn allowed China to flood the market with bad tests.

You can’t make this shit up.

Damn...

This will just be ammunition from the "I know better than 1700 biomedical PhDs" anti-vaxxers, who will expose us all to more frequent plagues in the future.

 

[Seven]

you mean like almost every other disease out there?

Did you ever stop to think how many of these old and weak people are in charge of running the world right now?

Lol. It was literally in my own post, smart guy. It is an argument to say corona is nothing special.

To show you just how much stupidity floats around regarding corona: in Belgium they count all 'suspicious' deaths as corona related deaths. Of all the people who died in retirement homes and are supposedly dead because of corona 2.8% was tested. Not to mention the fact that corona seems to be so contagious that the tests themselves have proven to be less than reliable.

The truth is we know almost nothing about this virus, apart from the fact it mainly targets the old and weak. Like pretty much any disease before it. We also know that it isn't going to disappear for at least a couple of years.

Should we take measures? Of course. Should we overhaul our entire society? I'm not so sure.

And sure, many old and weak people are in charge of running the world. If they die, others will run it.

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But overhauling our societies? IMO, we need it. We were headed on a course of systemic collapse. And still are. And I am not even talking about the climate.

Of course we need to overhaul several aspects of our society. But ad hoc measures rarely work out in the long run.

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If you print money, that money has to “find a home”, e.g. real estate, so real estate prices go up and its users (tenants) get killed because they can’t pay their rent. Tons of people are below the access line, and this is driving a wedge between people who can financially access these alternative value storage mechanisms and the poor f%$&s who cannot and thus slide down further and further being able to access these same assets just to live ... not to build a rentier economy.

Btw this might be true in the USA, but for the vast majority of people in Belgium for example that isn't true at all. Housing prices are bit too high to speak of a financially healthy system imo. But people can pay their rent here. Buying a home is slightly more difficult and perhaps reserved for fewer people than it once was, but if you're middle class in Belgium you are definitely able to buy a house.

 

[Cerval]

Don't get me wrong, I think the US needs to part ways ASAP with Trump, and I think an objective WHO is beneficial to the world

But he made some good points against the WHO indeed not being objective

 

[campionesidd]

To show you just how much stupidity floats around regarding corona: in Belgium they count all 'suspicious' deaths as corona related deaths. Of all the people who died in retirement homes and are supposedly dead because of corona 2.8% was tested. Not to mention the fact that corona seems to be so contagious that the tests themselves have proven to be less than reliable.

The truth is we know almost nothing about this virus, apart from the fact it mainly targets the old and weak. Like pretty much any disease before it. We also know that it isn't going to disappear for at least a couple of years.

Should we take measures? Of course. Should we overhaul our entire society? I'm not so sure.

I don’t know how many times it has to be said. That is simply not true. It targets everyone. It’s just that the older people and people with pre-existing conditions have compromised immune systems and/or weak lungs and are much more likely to die from it.

 

[Seven]

I don’t know how many times it has to be said. That is simply not true. It targets everyone. It’s just that the older people and people with pre-existing conditions have compromised immune systems and/or weak lungs and are much more likely to die from it.

It's true I should have worded it better.

Mainly the old and weak develop covid-19.