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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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If Legrottaglie caused the foul then Buffon's yellow card should be withdrawn.
LOL, good point:D

This case is worse than a joke, our adversaries demonstrated their power once again, we got owned x 2 and justice got owned x 2 along with us too.
We messed with best and got owned like the rest...
If Roma's,Inter's and Milan's coaches say; Zalayeta shouldnt get a ban,
then Zala wont get a ban, as simple as that!!
 

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Mark

The Informer
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Dec 19, 2003
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They should just revoke 2 more scudetti and everybody will be happy.

Zalayeta shouldn't have been suspended in the 1st place. He shoulkd have been fair and said it wasn't a pk. Lavezzi dive was worse. Now they make it sound like Legro made the foul by pulling on his shirt and that provoked Zalayeta to jump like a diver in a 100m.

It just shows how dumb the lega look.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,511
Moreno is from Ecuador!
Ups, my bad. But still you must admit that the joke was good :D


Why I'm not suprised at all with this "sudden" decision to cancel Zalayeta ban. And it's obvius why some coaches were agains those bans, for example if this kind of bans gets more often than Milan should immediately get rid of players like Dida and Gilardino, and Inter is story for itself.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,511
Coaches defend Zalayeta Tuesday 30 October, 2007


Refereeing designator Pierluigi Collina condemned the trial by television, while several top tacticians say Marcelo Zalayeta should not have been banned for diving.

Official Mauro Bergonzi was pilloried in the media this week after he awarded two highly controversial penalties to Napoli in their 3-1 victory over Juventus.


The video images of the incidents were replayed endlessly and picked apart by pundits calling for Bergonzi to be suspended or even fired.


“If a referee is criticised for what is seen on the television, then there is something deeply wrong,” said Collina.


“The official has to go on to the pitch and make split-second decisions. What you see on TV is completely different, in slow-motion and from every angle.”


The incidents at the San Paolo also prompted calls for video evidence to be used during a football match, as it already is in rugby.


“This is a very complicated matter. We would need a single, unified instrument for everyone, otherwise we risk the rules being dictated by the television companies and not by what’s happening on the field.”


That same video evidence was used to hand Zalayeta a two-match ban for simulation when earning Napoli’s second penalty against Juventus, but many Coaches have rushed to his defence.


“It is right to punish divers and those who behave inappropriately, but in this case we have to be careful, as I think Zalayeta was only trying to jump over his old teammate, Gianluigi Buffon,” insisted Roma boss Luciano Spalletti. - They are not that old teammates, and if they were good temmates than Zalayeta should said something or at least to apologise

“I consider it an injustice to ban the Napoli player, irrelevant of whether it was a penalty or not,” added Inter’s Roberto Mancini. - Hhaha, now after he cant blame us for cheating, he is jumping to cheaters defense. Really pathetic (I dream about of winning against Inter from non-existing penalty)


“I don’t believe he simulated, because a player who is running at top speed in a situation like that has to jump or he risks really hurting the goalkeeper. It is a very serious incident.”


Carlo Ancelotti was particularly harsh on the Disciplinary Commission’s two-match ban for Zalayeta.


“This is an incomprehensible decision,” said the Milan tactician. “It is right to battle against simulation, but not like this, otherwise it becomes ridiculous.- This is coming from a coach who have three most fameous divers in Italy, or better to be said in Europe (Dida - Celtic, Gilardino - Celtic, Pippo - every club). I would like to see how mastermind Ancelotti would solve this problem.


“The case should never have even been considered. The striker jumped to avoid Buffon and an impact that could have been very dangerous. I see referees very determined nowadays and not at all open to dialogue. I have noticed this detachment from the officials to the players and Coaches and believe it was ordered to them by the designator
 

gsol

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2007
1,448
"They were arguably the sort of penalties that Juventus would have been given in years gone by." this line in the article left by rebel would have been better left out. Come on, they act like soft penalties only went to Juve...
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
47,024
They should just revoke 2 more scudetti and everybody will be happy.

Zalayeta shouldn't have been suspended in the 1st place. He shoulkd have been fair and said it wasn't a pk. Lavezzi dive was worse. Now they make it sound like Legro made the foul by pulling on his shirt and that provoked Zalayeta to jump like a diver in a 100m.

It just shows how dumb the lega look.
I don't think that Lavezzi did anything wrong.

He went to ground under a strong challenge, but didn't really appeal for a pen. The fact the ref decided to give one was not Lavezzi's fault.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
the ban itself was funny, is it the latest trend to ban divers? don't we see these things every match day from us or other teams'? This sounds like a circus, they claim first that Zalayeta cheated, which means he fooled the referee, that's why the referee had blown the wrong decision, then you ban the referee 1 month, which means that referee was either involved in a fixing match, or was banned for a horrific performance. Collina and co also isn't aware of the situation on what happened, then why you ban the referee if it only was a human mistake as the dive fooled him, and why do you ban Zalayeta for diving? to make Juventus side feel better? as a compensate for the Juve suffer?? This is a joke, I am not saying it is a conspiracy, it is a bad way to handle the situation, and they better start investigation on the referee before banning him for a month. Collina should resign before things get worse and funnier!
 

Tacca03

Junior Member
May 24, 2003
228
Let's think positively, if we do well despite everything then our success will tast even sweeter.

Secondly, maybe we're also beginning to see slight changes in other people's attitude toward Juve. I think we're gaining creditbility again after the farce that called calciopoli.
 

d.nico

Senior Member
Apr 23, 2003
2,244
For me it is not about should Zala and Lavezzi being banned or not. But it's a matter about a bad referee.. It's about an attitude that the referee shown against Juventus. It's about something (i dont want to call it a name) that want to make Juventus suffer.
We as a fan should unite together with Juve in this bad situation. It will make us even bigger. Forza Juve forever.
 

chester

Too busy to bother
May 20, 2006
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It was bad refereeing, but dependng on the angle the ref looked from, it might have looked like a penalty, I don't know were the ref stood when Zala dived over Buffon.
Cases like these just make me even more convinced matches should be stopped to use tv-images to clear things up, or, if that doesn't go, then the two teams should re-play the match since the outcome was clearly influenced by these two events.
 

HelterSkelter

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Apr 15, 2005
20,537
Move Juventus to Afghanistan and invite Manchester United for a friendly.Dont show up on the matchday,and let the Taliban have a little fun with Manure for wearing sinful clothing that reveals your legs.
 

V

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Jun 8, 2005
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It was bad refereeing, but dependng on the angle the ref looked from, it might have looked like a penalty, I don't know were the ref stood when Zala dived over Buffon.
Cases like these just make me even more convinced matches should be stopped to use tv-images to clear things up, or, if that doesn't go, then the two teams should re-play the match since the outcome was clearly influenced by these two events.
Indeed. I really don't understand why TV evidence is purposelly being avoided by football federations. In important cases it can really determine the match fairly, no one needs to be damaged by the ref, who naturally can't always see everything.
 

chester

Too busy to bother
May 20, 2006
15,055
Exactly my point also, results like these, with ways like this, can make the difference between cl or uefa cup or even the scudetto or not.
It doesn't mean the ref did it on purpose, he might just mis-judged the situation but since we live in a time were this can so easily be solved, I don't get why football federations don't use the modern technology available.
 

JuveBoy

Senior Member
Feb 4, 2003
5,022
Move Juventus to Afghanistan and invite Manchester United for a friendly.Dont show up on the matchday,and let the Taliban have a little fun with Manure for wearing sinful clothing that reveals your legs.
WTF are you talking about you dalkhor? Taliban are from Pakistan and Arab and they use Afghanistan. Get a life and btw you are not fuckin funny!
 

Alfio_87

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
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i have been waiting and waiting for camera to be introduced for years but Mr Blatter is againest it and the one blame. Until there is a new fifa president nothing will change on this issue.
 
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