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chester

Too busy to bother
May 20, 2006
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It isn't a conspiracy, ref's are just scared to give advantages to us because of what happened in the past.
Especially when we play an away match.
Anyone who didn't see this coming at the start of the season was just being naive.
I am afraid that only time will solve this problem.
 

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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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a one month ban is not enough IMO, from a clubs perspective and a money perspective this match could cost us the scudetto. you never know how the season will play out but that is a possibility. i am sure that this will happen to us again and it will still be taken easy.
If we exclude the conspiracy theories and how a higher power is fixing matches against us, then one month ban is enough, imo.

If the problem is soley with the refs who are affraid to make a call in our favour and are giving all the 50/50 calls against us, then these bans will solve the problem.
No ref would like to make a similar mistake and be banned for a month or more.
They'll be more careful from now on.

This may lead to another extremity, though. Now the refs may even start giving the 50/50, or even 40/60 or 30/70 calls in our favour. This is another thing i'd like to avoid. I just want fairness.
 

chester

Too busy to bother
May 20, 2006
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Alen,

I agree with you and that is why I feel tv images should be allowed to use in circumstances like these because now, everything that will happen will give as much fuss as what happened Saturday.
 

gsol

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2007
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Carlo is a moron and shouldn't have a clumn at goal. youtube has that incident and its been analyzed to death. That was NOT A PENALTY according to the rules of teh sport. Since when are two players runninig into each other inside the box a foul for one and not teh other. Another example of a big deal being made of nothing. If anything Juve should have complained about the referee not giving West a red card after kicking Alex in the face.
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Pessotto: "We were very disappointed. The erroneous decision was quite evident. However, we don't have any suspicions that this move was done to hinder us, even though it ruined the game"
We don't need this type of diplomacy.
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Paying the penalty


After having two nonexistent penalties awarded against them at Napoli, are Juventus still paying the price for Calciopoli?

They were arguably the sort of penalties that Juventus would have been given in years gone by. Generous, soft and nonexistent, spot-kicks which gave Napoli victory at the San Paolo on Saturday night. But those ‘gifts’ were much more significant than just the three points – they were the latest illustration that the Old Lady of Italian football are still paying for their Calciopoli past.

So far this season, the Bianconeri have conceded five-and-a-half penalties – one was awarded and then retracted at Cagliari – in just nine games. Of those decisions, all but one were more than debatable. Mix in the doubts over the legality of Francesco Totti’s first goal against them in Week 4 and why Antonio Nocerino was not awarded a penalty seven days earlier against Udinese, and you can see why the club feel hard done by.

Inevitably, as this is Italy, rumours of a supposed plot against Juve have already surfaced. That’s probably a little too far fetched at this stage. After all, it would have been easy for the men in black to disallow David Trezeguet’s strike against Torino and Vincenzo Iaquinta’s goal in Florence. However, it’s clear that certain officials are having trouble taking charge of Juventus this season.

Mauro Bergonzi’s performance at the weekend was a clear indication of the way some men are opting to handle the Old Lady in this post-Calciopoli climate. Big clubs, prior to the match-fixing scandal, were traditionally seen as being involuntarily favoured by referees due to a condition referred to as sudditanza psicologica – psychological subjection. Yet it seems that the Turin giants are now being judged with a kind of reverse sudditanza psicologica. With a number of refs understandably concerned that some of their honest mistakes may favour Juve, it’s easy to comprehend why an ‘if in doubt, blow against Juve’ philosophy is being used by them.

It’s a dangerous yardstick with which to rule by though. Punishing the already sentenced Juventus for the past misdemeanours of a management team who are no longer recognised by the present hierarchy is not only damaging to the club, but the game in general. It risks falsifying another campaign which has the potential to be the most exciting in years.

If the Italian game is to really move on and regain the credibility which it has been lacking in recent times, referees – and their assistants – must start making their decisions on what they actually see rather than what they perceive. They not only owe that to Juventus, but also to themselves and their fellow officials.

by Antonio Labbate
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
We don't need this type of diplomacy.
no! that's what we need exactly. you don't expect our director act like kids and blame Moratti whenever a bad refereeing done against us. Unless they have evidences, no one should open their mouth!
 

theone

Junior Member
Jul 3, 2007
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Moratti, DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!

I am going to the match, guys, and I will never stop shouting and supporting undici bianconeri leoni as well as will always booooo motherfucker zlatan.
We will beat the scumbags 2-0 !!! Inshallah !!!
We will come out victorious !!!
 
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