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Juve fans in Bergonzi rage

A Juventus fans’ forum has started an online petition to have referee Mauro Bergonzi sacked after his mistakes cost the Bianconeri on Saturday.

Bergonzi awarded Napoli two controversial penalties as the Vesuviani beat the Old Lady 3-1 at the Stadio San Paolo.

Videos seem to show that the first was a fair tackle by Giorgio Chiellini and the second a dive by ex-Juve hitman Marcelo Zalayeta.

Genoa native Bergonzi has already been told that he won’t officiate in Serie A for a month, but the anger hasn’t abated.

The petition on J1897.com has already accumulated thousands of signatures and messages from enraged fans and it seems that the matter is far from closed.

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How to sign that?Hey Mark77,can you help us?
i was gonna post this...

i wanna sign too... link plz.
 
Mar 6, 2005
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Referee From Napoli – Juve Banned For A Month The referee from Saturday night’s hugely controversial clash between Napoli and Juventus at San Paolo has been banned for a month.

Referee From Napoli – Juve Banned For A Month


Mauro Bergonzi awarded two scandalous penalties to Napoli as the Partenopei ran out 3-1 winners.

The first spot-kick arrived on 62 minutes when the scores were still level at 1-1. Marcelo Zalayeta flicked the ball on to Ezequiel Lavezzi, who was cleanly tackled by Juve stopper Giorgio Chiellini, only for Bergonzi to award a penalty.

The second spot-kick came eight minutes later when Zalayeta blatantly dived over Gianluigi Buffon, only for Bergonzi to once again make an equally shocking decision.

Napoli captain Mauro Domizzi buried both penalties to send the Bianconeri hierarchy up in arms.

The Italian League’s referee designator, Pierluigi Collina, has decided to punish Bergonzi for his dreadful performance by banning him for the next month of Serie A games.

The disciplinary action is not over yet though and there are reports that video evidence may be used to penalise Zalayeta after the Uruguayan’s dive for the second penalty.

Carlo Garganese
 

JuveBoy

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Referee From Napoli – Juve Banned For A Month The referee from Saturday night’s hugely controversial clash between Napoli and Juventus at San Paolo has been banned for a month.

Referee From Napoli – Juve Banned For A Month


Mauro Bergonzi awarded two scandalous penalties to Napoli as the Partenopei ran out 3-1 winners.

The first spot-kick arrived on 62 minutes when the scores were still level at 1-1. Marcelo Zalayeta flicked the ball on to Ezequiel Lavezzi, who was cleanly tackled by Juve stopper Giorgio Chiellini, only for Bergonzi to award a penalty.

The second spot-kick came eight minutes later when Zalayeta blatantly dived over Gianluigi Buffon, only for Bergonzi to once again make an equally shocking decision.

Napoli captain Mauro Domizzi buried both penalties to send the Bianconeri hierarchy up in arms.

The Italian League’s referee designator, Pierluigi Collina, has decided to punish Bergonzi for his dreadful performance by banning him for the next month of Serie A games.

The disciplinary action is not over yet though and there are reports that video evidence may be used to penalise Zalayeta after the Uruguayan’s dive for the second penalty.

Carlo Garganese
How can this Mothafocker Zalayeta play false with us??? Go to the hell son of a .....
 

Mark

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I watched the whole show and these parts weren't cut here. And he didn't say something scandalous so they'd cut it.
In Italy they showed him saying something like Juve penalized for nothing and stuff like that...disappointed a bit with Almiron...Tiago will play...here RAI Int. didn't show it. He was there and we barely saw him speak.

ßöмßäяdîëя;1482084 said:
Wait, so they edited it?
yep

Juve fans in Bergonzi rage

A Juventus fans’ forum has started an online petition to have referee Mauro Bergonzi sacked after his mistakes cost the Bianconeri on Saturday.

Bergonzi awarded Napoli two controversial penalties as the Vesuviani beat the Old Lady 3-1 at the Stadio San Paolo.

Videos seem to show that the first was a fair tackle by Giorgio Chiellini and the second a dive by ex-Juve hitman Marcelo Zalayeta.

Genoa native Bergonzi has already been told that he won’t officiate in Serie A for a month, but the anger hasn’t abated.

The petition on J1897.com has already accumulated thousands of signatures and messages from enraged fans and it seems that the matter is far from closed.

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How to sign that?Hey Mark77,can you help us?
I guess you have to register there and post your name and city. That's what they're doing there from what I can see right now.
 

JuveBoy

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Feb 4, 2003
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guys, J1897.com is for Italian friends. Can we make a thread here, gather signatures and post it to j1897.com. I don't understand a word there lol...
 

Geof

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May 14, 2004
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Gigi said he liked Bergonzi as a ref, so he just went to him at the first penalty tellng him that he was making a huge mistake and that he should conslt his assistants, which he did and still awarded the PK.
On the second penalty, Gigi said he could understand the mistake, as it was going fast.

"But I looked at Zalayeta.." he concluded
 

.zero

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Damage is done now. we should move forward...Our next game is in 2 days time and we better concentrate fully on it.
:agree: word is bond

lets get up and move on. we all knew coming into this season that we would be officiated differently from our opponents due to the "scandal". lets not be naive about all this.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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a one month ban is not enough IMO, from a clubs perspective and a money perspective this match could cost us the scudetto. you never know how the season will play out but that is a possibility. i am sure that this will happen to us again and it will still be taken easy.
 

conmebol

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Calcio Debate: Is There A Conspiracy Against Juventus

Decision after decision is going against Juventus this season, including the award of two absolutely non-existent penalties for Napoli on Saturday. Carlo Garganese asks if there is a post-Calciopoli conspiracy against La Vecchia Signora…



For many years Juventus were often seen as the club who controlled the status quo in the Italian football world. Much of this perception was often clouded by the jealousy and hatred that comes with being, domestically, the most successful ever Italian team.

However it must be noted that in the past there have been quite a number of high-profile refereeing 'mistakes’ that the Bianconeri have benefited from. I will outline possibly the three most controversial of these.

The first was during the 1980/81 season when Juventus and Roma faced off in a crucial title-decider in Turin. The home side went into the game one point clear of their opponents at the top of the table.

With the scores at 0-0, Roma sweeper Maurizio Turrone thought he had scored the winner with a header, however the referee then disallowed the goal for a contentious offside decision. The match finished 0-0, Juve won their next two games and claimed the Scudetto.

The second controversy took place just a season later. Both Juventus and Fiorentina went into the final day of the campaign level on points at the top.

The Viola could only manage a goalless draw at Cagliari after having a seemingly perfectly good goal disallowed, while Juve were awarded a debatable penalty at Catanzaro, which Liam Brady converted to give them a 1-0 victory, and thus the Championship.

Finally, there was the 'Ronaldo incident’ from 1997/98. With just four games remaining of the season, just one point separated the top-two Juventus and Inter, as they met at the Stadio Delle Alpi.

The Bianconeri were 1-0 up in the second-half, when Ronaldo was blatantly fouled by Mark Iuliano in the penalty area. The referee incredibly waved play-on, and indeed awarded a spot-kick down the other end just seconds later. Alessandro Del Piero missed it, but the Turin-giants held on to virtually guarantee another Scudetto success.

So for many years, accusations rang round that Juventus had the referees in their pocket and that this was the reason why the club was so successful.

Their reputation was not helped by the decision in the 1990s to hire Luciano Moggi as their general manager. Moggi was well-known for his powerful influence in the game during his time at Napoli and Torino.

In fact whilst with the Granata, 'Lucky Luciano’ had infamously spent thousands of pounds in hiring prostitutes for referees during the 1991/92 UEFA Cup campaign. Torino made it all the way to the final, where they were 'unlucky’ to lose on away goals to Ajax.

The penalties issued out in the aftermath of the Calciopoli crisis in 2006 was intended to clean up all the corruption that had supposedly permeated the Italian game for decades.

Juventus of course suffered the most and were revoked of two Scudetti and demoted to Serie B. However, on the evidence of the events that have taken place this season, the corruption in the game is still well and truly present. The only difference is that now it is being directed against the Bianconeri.

The huge number of refereeing 'mistakes’ against the Old Lady this campaign cannot be a coincidence, and the events on Saturday night at Napoli just took things to another plane.

With the scores level at 1-1, Mauro Bergonzi awarded two absolutely scandalous penalties to the home side. The first in particular cannot possibly have come about as a result of human error. Giorgio Chiellini clearly won the ball from Ezequiel Lavezzi - in fact he did not even go to ground – so how Mr Bergonzi could come to such a conclusion I do not know.

Juventus have already conceded five penalties this season and all but one of them was hugely debatable. Indeed against Cagliari, Claudio Ranieri’s men had three spot-kick’s awarded against them, one of which was only retracted after Chiellini had threatened to have a human fit on the field if the ref did not change his mind.

Then of course there is the Udinese game in week seven when Antonio Nocerino was denied a clear penalty, and Vincenzo Iaquinta had a goal mysteriously disallowed. Seven days later against Roma, Francesco Totti was also offside when he scored the first of his two goals.

When you add up all these incidents, you can understand why many believe there is a post-Calciopoli conspiracy against Juventus.

Although it must be noted that Iaquinta’s goal against Fiorentina in week seven should not have stood, this is just a drop in the ocean compared to everything else that has taken place.

“When these things happen, it is quite simply a scandal,” blasted David Trezeguet on Saturday.

“We cannot be treated this way,” cried President Giovanni Cobolli Gigli. “I have never seen anything like it in my life.”

It is abundantly clear that Juventus are being deliberately punished upon their return to Serie A. At the very least, as Claudio Ranieri said today, “the 50/50 decisions are going against the team”.

However the less naïve among us will surely see that there is something more sinister in it than that.

Italian football has sadly failed to remove corruption from its game. Continuing to punish the Bianconeri when the new owners of the club have shown every sign to be clean and open is a disgrace!

What are your views on this topic? Is there a conspiracy against Juventus? We want to know what YOU think?

Carlo Garganese
 
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