i think its easier to give decision against juve because such decisions are hardly talked about
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It does seem that way but expect more of it this season. Also expect that the next pen we get will be followed by shouts of "see, the decisions even out over a season"
The worst thing is, can you imagine the outcry if we got 2 pens v Inter next week?
I remember a few seasons back, Collina gave 2 pens to Roma (v Venezia if I remember right), & was banned from reffing the top 3 for rest of season. Wonder if he'll take the same action v yesterdays ref?
It does seem that way but expect more of it this season. Also expect that the next pen we get will be followed by shouts of "see, the decisions even out over a season"
The worst thing is, can you imagine the outcry if we got 2 pens v Inter next week?
I remember a few seasons back, Collina gave 2 pens to Roma (v Venezia if I remember right), & was banned from reffing the top 3 for rest of season. Wonder if he'll take the same action v yesterdays ref?
I know we were robbed in Napoli match and also there was plenty of dubious decision against us, but still don't you hear yourself guys. Many of you are sound more and more like an Interista fan who never won anything because we stole everything.
And also like someone said before it's useless to camplain now, especially on how our board had to react during calciopolli cuz now it's too late. At this moment we should raise above everything and shut all mouths by winning Empoli game and even Inter, or at least to show that we are not affected by all contarversial decisions, that we are Juve and despite all problems we are going to fight just like we did in B.
And also like someone said before it's useless to camplain now, especially on how our board had to react during calciopolli cuz now it's too late. At this moment we should raise above everything and shut all mouths by winning Empoli game and even Inter, or at least to show that we are not affected by all contarversial decisions, that we are Juve and despite all problems we are going to fight just like we did in B.
wrong wrong wrong
not saying anything is what led to Calciopoli in the first place. Had Juve complained about poor officiating (there were plenty of occasions to do so) as much as other teams it wouldn't have been so easy to convince the public that Juve were cheating.
From now on every bad call against us should lead to public outrage.
"just win against Empoli"...with a referee like birgonzi I doubt it. They need to know that we are watching their every move otherwise they will continue to punish us with impunity
not saying anything is what led to Calciopoli in the first place. Had Juve complained about poor officiating (there were plenty of occasions to do so) as much as other teams it wouldn't have been so easy to convince the public that Juve were cheating.
From now on every bad call against us should lead to public outrage.
"just win against Empoli"...with a referee like birgonzi I doubt it. They need to know that we are watching their every move otherwise they will continue to punish us with impunity
I disagree. Complaining now does work, because right now all refs want to make sure they won't favour Juventus. By complaining, they just might look forward to having a good game instead of favouring our opponents.
Besides, I think we don't even need to complain ourselves, the Napoli fans, players and president are all admitting it weren't penalties.. These were awful, awful decisions. Especially the first one cannot be forgiven. This ref has got to go.
Besides, I think we don't even need to complain ourselves, the Napoli fans, players and president are all admitting it weren't penalties.. These were awful, awful decisions. Especially the first one cannot be forgiven. This ref has got to go.
It was said by Tombolini tonight. The refereing today was great and the men in Domenica Sportiva concluded that what happened yesterday night was the reason for the great refereeing today. The refs gave cento per cento to have a good game today.
I just finished watching Ranieri in the same show. He was so emotional tonight.
He said "We want to be equal to the others. We want nothing more, nothing less, we just want equal treatment. And what we're getting so far is not equal treatment. We paid with two scudetti and relegation, why should we pay any more ?"
I guess we'll read tomorrow about what he said, and he said a lot of things about summer mercato (Tiago), our mentality and especially about the referees. He and Capello had a small chat about Juve and they both confirmed that the huge heart of a Juventino is what makes this team a champion.
I enjoyed every second of tonight's show.
I think there's a small degree where referees are pissing in their pants and want to avoid looking like they're on the Juve payroll after calciopoli.
Disappointing, but true. Abbiati would almost serve us better given all the PKs it looks like we're in for this season.
And as many of you all know, Italy is a culture of protest and complaint. Not complaining implies approval. This is true with everything from refereeing decisions to paying taxes.
Disappointing, but true. Abbiati would almost serve us better given all the PKs it looks like we're in for this season.
And as many of you all know, Italy is a culture of protest and complaint. Not complaining implies approval. This is true with everything from refereeing decisions to paying taxes.
You guys said it all, you discussed every referee's decisions through since the season started
But there are some posts here complaining that we over-performed and referees ruined the season for us
when exactly we over-performed?
It was a miracle to get a point in Roma game, maybe Roma's goals were fouls or offside, but after we scored the first goal Roma totally took control, then we were given a penalty in Rome and we missed it
Against Torino we weren't good either, we didnt deserve to win as we didn't dominate them
Our goal against Fiorentina can be easily disallowed by the referee, but it wasn't , still if we added a second goal, we wouldn't care then where Legro's arms are
And we all agreed that the referee's crimes in Napoli game costeed us a single point, not 3
I agree with you that referees fucked us in many occasions, as if we weren't punished enough by ripping 2 titles and Seria B relegation
The bottom line is we are doing a good job on the pitch, but we arent doing our best, why cant we lead by 2 goals, instead of one , why cant we keep attacking the opponent instead of defending and making the rotten referees' job much easier to give soft penalties against us
Finally : Forza Juve and fuck everybody else
But there are some posts here complaining that we over-performed and referees ruined the season for us
when exactly we over-performed?
It was a miracle to get a point in Roma game, maybe Roma's goals were fouls or offside, but after we scored the first goal Roma totally took control, then we were given a penalty in Rome and we missed it
Against Torino we weren't good either, we didnt deserve to win as we didn't dominate them
Our goal against Fiorentina can be easily disallowed by the referee, but it wasn't , still if we added a second goal, we wouldn't care then where Legro's arms are
And we all agreed that the referee's crimes in Napoli game costeed us a single point, not 3
I agree with you that referees fucked us in many occasions, as if we weren't punished enough by ripping 2 titles and Seria B relegation
The bottom line is we are doing a good job on the pitch, but we arent doing our best, why cant we lead by 2 goals, instead of one , why cant we keep attacking the opponent instead of defending and making the rotten referees' job much easier to give soft penalties against us
Finally : Forza Juve and fuck everybody else
Juve fans in Bergonzi rage
A Juventus fans’ forum has started an online petition to have referee Mauro Bergonzi sacked after his mistakes cost the Bianconeri on Saturday.
Bergonzi awarded Napoli two controversial penalties as the Vesuviani beat the Old Lady 3-1 at the Stadio San Paolo.
Videos seem to show that the first was a fair tackle by Giorgio Chiellini and the second a dive by ex-Juve hitman Marcelo Zalayeta.
Genoa native Bergonzi has already been told that he won’t officiate in Serie A for a month, but the anger hasn’t abated.
The petition on J1897.com has already accumulated thousands of signatures and messages from enraged fans and it seems that the matter is far from closed.
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How to sign that?Hey Mark77,can you help us?
A Juventus fans’ forum has started an online petition to have referee Mauro Bergonzi sacked after his mistakes cost the Bianconeri on Saturday.
Bergonzi awarded Napoli two controversial penalties as the Vesuviani beat the Old Lady 3-1 at the Stadio San Paolo.
Videos seem to show that the first was a fair tackle by Giorgio Chiellini and the second a dive by ex-Juve hitman Marcelo Zalayeta.
Genoa native Bergonzi has already been told that he won’t officiate in Serie A for a month, but the anger hasn’t abated.
The petition on J1897.com has already accumulated thousands of signatures and messages from enraged fans and it seems that the matter is far from closed.
channel 4
How to sign that?Hey Mark77,can you help us?
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