Cobolli Gigli Attacks Moggi & Giraudo (2 Viewers)

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
#42
Lippi.

Moggi just executed Lippi orders.
Now who is being realistic here?

anyway abt the situation here....first of all would appreciete it if somebody translated the article.

Italy is corrupted as hell.Saying that it was Moggi who started the whole corruption is just ridicolous. It has been there for years and will stay there for a while imo. Both were part of the system and tried to protect the team as much as they could.Everyone was talking to referees and the other directors, so letting the other teams gaining an advantage would'nt be right.

anyway imo thats not the case. We put the Moggi&Giraudo era past us now. We have opened a new page.This club and its management should forget abt the past and focus on the future. Gigli should do just that.

and for ppl who r denying the things Moggi & Co did for the club then its fair enough....But i wont forget the good things that he did for this club. If we had someone with a less eye for talent then god knows what would be our position at this period.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#43
ReBeL said:
As the FIGC man who was accused with Moggi (I forgot his name) said: "All the clubs were talking to me. I wonder why it was only Juve that was accused because of that"...

Actually, 5 clubs were accused beside Juventus - Milan, Lazio, Fiorentina, Reggina and Arezzo.

The question is why has Juve been punished harder than the others.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#44
sateeh said:
Now who is being realistic here?

anyway abt the situation here....first of all would appreciete it if somebody translated the article.

Italy is corrupted as hell.Saying that it was Moggi who started the whole corruption is just ridicolous. It has been there for years and will stay there for a while imo. Both were part of the system and tried to protect the team as much as they could.Everyone was talking to referees and the other directors, so letting the other teams gaining an advantage would'nt be right.

anyway imo thats not the case. We put the Moggi&Giraudo era past us now. We have opened a new page.This club and its management should forget abt the past and focus on the future. Gigli should do just that.

and for ppl who r denying the things Moggi & Co did for the club then its fair enough....But i wont forget the good things that he did for this club. If we had someone with a less eye for talent then god knows what would be our position at this period.

Wouldnt want to go there, one thing it is for sure: Italian football will never be boring!
 

Vidocq

Senior Member
Sep 9, 2006
1,332
#46
I heard a short interview on SKY whem Cobolli Gigli said this.. If he said this on purpose he is wrong and it's better to stop with this.. If he said this cause possible reduction he is doing right thing.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
#47
sateeh said:
Italy is corrupted as hell.Saying that it was Moggi who started the whole corruption is just ridicolous. It has been there for years and will stay there for a while imo
for ever, now if some fans want to live with illusions, thats another history,
but you cant blame Moggi for everything ppl, he just did his job...
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,931
#50
Forza Moggi. It was inevitable that Moggi and Juve's enemies were gonna get to one way or another. Personally IMO if moggi has done anything wrong, that would be to make too many enemies and reject the opportunity to leave for inter when he had his opportunity. Overall Moggi has been a great asset to this club, the reality is we still dont know how much guilty he really was. Bottom line is you cant be succesful in italy without bending some rules. The footballing nation is way too corrupt (as are proberly others) and as for Moggi, no matter what he did everything for Juve. I wish him the best in the future and as for Gigli :tdown: day by day im starting to dislike this guy. Forza Triade.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,931
#51
sateeh said:
Now who is being realistic here?

anyway abt the situation here....first of all would appreciete it if somebody translated the article.

Italy is corrupted as hell.Saying that it was Moggi who started the whole corruption is just ridicolous. It has been there for years and will stay there for a while imo. Both were part of the system and tried to protect the team as much as they could.Everyone was talking to referees and the other directors, so letting the other teams gaining an advantage would'nt be right.

anyway imo thats not the case. We put the Moggi&Giraudo era past us now. We have opened a new page.This club and its management should forget abt the past and focus on the future. Gigli should do just that.

and for ppl who r denying the things Moggi & Co did for the club then its fair enough....But i wont forget the good things that he did for this club. If we had someone with a less eye for talent then god knows what would be our position at this period.
Nice :agree:
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#52
wfm221 said:
I heard a short interview on SKY whem Cobolli Gigli said this.. If he said this on purpose he is wrong and it's better to stop with this.. If he said this cause possible reduction he is doing right thing.

WTF did he say?
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#53
ahmedz said:
yea dont blame Moggi...there were 3 of them...please do not leave out Giraudo and Bettega

I heard from one reliable source that actually Giraudo was a bad corrupted bastard, not Moggi. Moggi was like a little boy compared to him.

And Bettega was the only one of Triade who was clean. He did nothing wrong.

That is why he is still in the Club.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
#54
mark83 said:
I heard from one reliable source that actually Giraudo was a bad corrupted bastard, not Moggi. Moggi was like a little boy compared to him.

And Bettega was the only one of Triade who was clean. He did nothing wrong.

That is why he is still in the Club.
well u can never know...Mybe cause Giraudo was involved with the books then mybe he has the potential to be much more corrupted(although i didnt hear anything abt him doing any financial wrongdoings)

but it was Moggi was the "colourful" past.So it was easy to make him the scapegoat.

Although i can't really be positive about that, but i think Bettega is only about the football and the club. He doesnt get involved with the politics. His love for football and the club is undeniable.I hope he gets more involved in years to come
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#55
PhRoZeN said:
Forza Moggi. It was inevitable that Moggi and Juve's enemies were gonna get to one way or another. Personally IMO if moggi has done anything wrong, that would be to make too many enemies and reject the opportunity to leave for inter when he had his opportunity. Overall Moggi has been a great asset to this club, the reality is we still dont know how much guilty he really was. Bottom line is you cant be succesful in italy without bending some rules. The footballing nation is way too corrupt (as are proberly others) and as for Moggi, no matter what he did everything for Juve. I wish him the best in the future and as for Gigli :tdown: day by day im starting to dislike this guy. Forza Triade.

He did a "rookie" mistake: He gave a chance to the others to ruin him and Juventus!

He should have been more careful when talking to refs.

If everybody in Italy cheats like you say, then a majority of teams got away with it.
 

d.nico

Senior Member
Apr 23, 2003
2,244
#56
Cronios said:
for ever, now if some fans want to live with illusions, thats another history,
but you cant blame Moggi for everything ppl, he just did his job...
:agree: He just did it like everybody did, but he got caught. And yeah he did it better than others offcourse.
 
Sep 28, 2002
13,975
#57
ReBeL said:
Well, snoop, but let's not forget that he brought great players when he had only the club to depend on, as Agnellis moved away from expending one penny on the club...

SO, he had to find some sources and make outstanding transfer deals to assure the continuity of the club...

Anyway, I just wanted to remind everybody that the source of "Moggi to Milan" is nothing but "Tribal"...
hundreds of managers do that everyday. moggi is so overrated as a transfer market genius. the only deal that was trully amazing was cannavaro-carini swap. other than that - loaned out youngsters, destroyed careers: see salas, di vaio etc. he also responsible for selling maresca
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
#59
Fliakis said:
hundreds of managers do that everyday. moggi is so overrated as a transfer market genius. the only deal that was trully amazing was cannavaro-carini swap. other than that - loaned out youngsters, destroyed careers: see salas, di vaio etc. he also responsible for selling maresca
:disagree:
till now i've never seen someone as effective as him in the transfer market.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
#60
not to forget bringing Olivera for that price, while the others brought Kaka for the same price. while the Cannavaro's transfer was Moratti and co's stupidity.

Not that I am bashing Moggi's policy, but yeah like Fli said he is very overrated.
 

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