Claudio Ranieri (25 Viewers)

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Trez was disrespectful, I am sorry. If he had something to say he should have had the balls to say it to his coach in the dressing room and in front of the team, not to the media. That is the last thing we need now is the media to turn on us in similar fashion as they do with Inter with "dressing room" splits. We have a league to try and win, I would hate to compound the injury crisis and then on top of that a media frenzy presuming the team vs the coach affecting team morale.
 

rb77

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Dec 8, 2007
277
man..i cant belive whats happening..but seriously guyz..this is a rough time for juve fans..imagine how tough is it on the juve PLAYERS..especially the elder ones..trezeguet just blew some steam he was pissed about being knocked out like all of us were pissed..and ranieri isnt that too happy either(im guessing)..and i really hope that this doesnt get blown over and stop here and ranieri and trez can make up..because that is the last thing we need..so hopefully everything will be fine..promises will be fulfilled(world class players from gigli and ranieri)...and hopefully we can be the dominant force we used to be...forza juve...forza trzeguet..forza old guard!!
 

denco

Superior Being
Jul 12, 2002
4,679
Why can't players and coaches keep these things behind closed doors?
Actually I do not mind it as it shows that at least 1 players is pissed at going out to chelsea.

Id rather read that than read players talking about how much passion they gave after losing a game.

It is not the 1st time that Ranieri has had a public spat with a player as Chiellini comes to mind so I do not know why he is acting like it is the first time.

Ranieri like a lot of Italian managers are far too ready to give youngsters a chance if they are defensive rather than attacking unlike their Spanish and English counterparts.

The likes of Santoni and Marchisio are allowed to play so many games but Giovinco and Balotelli are restricted and every mistake they make is blown out of proportion then they are benched for old-timers.

Look at United with Scholes and Giggs, there are no doubts legends at that club but they do not play a lot of the games unlike how the likes of DP and Nedved have been afforded here.

I am not being disparaging but 34 year old DP and 36 year old Nedved should not be playing the amount of games they have played this season from serie A, coppa italia and Cl whilst the younger players are warming the bench.

Just a short word on Xavi Alonso, was it not Ranieri that said he was too slow and that is why we did not go for him?

Liverpool were waiting for us to buy his so they could have funds to buy Gareth Barry but because we did not pursue our interest they did not have money to fund both Keane and Barry so went for Keane.

I do not know who should be the next manager cos there are too many that I am not fond of but the 1 thing that I am sure about is that if Rafa Benitez became manager, we'd hate him like a muthafucka.

You think Ranieri makes eccentric decisions? Rafa is even worse as he is as bizarre as they come when it comes to subs and his rotation policy would send most Juve fans to the bottle.

Those that hate 2 holding midfielders would have to put up with it cos Rafa would not play without it.

With the amount of money that Liverpool have spent on players, they are premiership record is not good enough and at the crucial times, Rafa will find something to moan about with the board or something else that will distract his players.

I have learnt from experience that you can admire a manager from afar as I did with Capello but until you see him work close up then you can really judge how annoying most of his decisions are.

I used to really like Mourinho as well until he came to Inter and started playing 9 defenders in each game and I went off him.

The likes of Conte and other past Juventus players that some have bandied are well and fine but as Cronos has said unless we have a rich array of quality players there is no way they are going to succeed as with Guardiola at Barcelona, all the tools are in place, all he has to do is harness but he is doing a great job to be fair to him thus far.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Ranieri is 100% spot on. We all love Trezeguet and there's no way to compare our respect or love for David to the coach but Ranieri is right.

No one has the right to take via media and criticize the coach via media we are not Inter. Del Piero threw his jacket the other day but was smiling for the media because he knows that press/media need their bla bla to feed themselves, Ale said everything will be resolved and everything is just good in the dressing room.


Even during Capello times Del Piero never went to say a word towards Capello. David shouldn't have done this and I'm disappointed with him.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Denco, are you serious? You would rather read a conflict between a player and his coach rather than a player keeping these stuff in a dressing room between him and the coach? I expected more from you TBH.
 

Wings

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Jul 15, 2002
21,547
What Trez did was wrong but understandable, however what Ranieri has done by replying through the media is abominable. The coach is the one who is supposed to keep things controlled & not to fuel the situation.
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,640
Ranieri is not spot on. This whole s--t (yes i cant describe it better) is not the way these things should be dealt with. Especially here at Juventus. Heck even inter players didnt whine when they exit (under Mancini).

Trezeguet is right about his comment, but you dont publicly make bad comments or question the way the manager deals with something. This shows as if we arent really a unite.
 

C4ISR

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2005
2,362
I was surprised when I read the comments by Trez. A player of his experience shouldn't be complaining to the media about being sub'd. Ranieri is right. You keep your concerns away from the media. Were not Inter FFS.
 

denco

Superior Being
Jul 12, 2002
4,679
Denco, are you serious? You would rather read a conflict between a player and his coach rather than a player keeping these stuff in a dressing room between him and the coach? I expected more from you TBH.
Of course I am serious, it is you guys and the media that are making a big deal out of it.

Understandably the media have to sell papers and tv ratings but what are you gaining from going on about it?

All this we are not Inter is getting old and its totally false cos we are Inter of years ago, content to be knocked out of cl at 2nd stage, moaning about what goes on at the present Inter etc.

Trez is disappointed that he was subbed with 12 minutes to go when we needed goals and voiced his opinion, I was flabbergasted that he was subbed.

He did not say "I am quitting the club because I was subbed" he just expressed disappointment thats all, no big deal. It is not like Mancini saying I am quitting and destroying morale.

While we are on the subject of washing dirty laundry, as you said Inter do it and look at where they are top of the league, Milan act all professional and look at where they are out of every competion possible and fighting for 3rd place.

So Ranieri is right by saying he has not spoken to the Trez personally but he saw it fit to say that he is answering back thru the media cos Trez did it first. Is that not childish?

Is that what you want from your manager if you are hoping to win the league?

It is not a big deal at all , what is worrosime though is that it is friday and we have a game tomorrow and Ranieri is saying that he has not seen Trez, kinda disturbing don't you think?

Oh I forgot you guys love to sweat the small stuff as there is nothing he did that is way out of order and the manager could have put an end ti it by saying that we will handle inhouse and this insignificant episode would have been nipped in the bud instead I am wasting my time talking about it.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
14,292
Ranieri is 100% spot on. We all love Trezeguet and there's no way to compare our respect or love for David to the coach but Ranieri is right.

No one has the right to take via media and criticize the coach via media we are not Inter. Del Piero threw his jacket the other day but was smiling for the media because he knows that press/media need their bla bla to feed themselves, Ale said everything will be resolved and everything is just good in the dressing room.


Even during Capello times Del Piero never went to say a word towards Capello. David shouldn't have done this and I'm disappointed with him.

:agree:

Ranieri has shown a lot of faith in Trez to start him in our biggest game of the season over one of our most effective players, and to be blasted in the media by David is disappointing.

Trezeguet should be a man about it and talk to Ranieri rather than go to the media. Like others have said this is most unlike Juve and very Inter-ish.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
denco...

He can express his disappointing opinion between him and the coach. Ranieri said that Trezeguet didn't even talk to him but via media, you think it's right to talk via media and not Ranieri? It's about logic and principle, what happened during the match happened and we are 3 days already from what happened on Tuesday, it only makes sense to talk to your coach and not via media.


Are you also trying to tell me that Inter are first because they criticize each others via press/media and they bash their coach/mate/mang? Please....


Again, Ranieri is 100% spot on, he's not the one that went on moaning how Trezeguet didn't score in the game, it's Trezeguet who moaned about Ranieri not playing him till the end.

Ranieri has shown faith in this man and has played him in our most important match ahead of Amauri who has done a lot not to forget that david was sidelined...., if anything he should say to Ranieri is the two words, Thank you.


Ali... what you said doesn't make sense TBH. You expect Ranieri to beg our players not to say anything neg through press or via media? This is not a 4th grade school.

Again, I gave an example everyone ignored, Del Piero played two years under one prick called Fabio Capello, he never complained to the press, never. He's an example to follow and Trezeguet isn't any better than him.

Ranieri did what he had to do, players should know their limits, and of course Ranieri should know his, but good thing he replied back to him so these things don't happen again.
 

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