Claudio Ranieri (21 Viewers)
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seriously... these discussions are getting more and more ridiculous. I can't believe the crap i'm reading here. people insulting each other, insulting our team, insulting our board... i'm honestly loosing all interest in this forum. What the f* is going on? Are you calling yourself fans? Well juventus does not need fans who can't but complain, moan, and insult everyone and everything. If you're so in love with the old moggi-days, well then buy yourself a dvd of old juventus-games, lock yourself in your basement and enjoy them. I can't believe i have to read comments like vinman's, who are disrespectful, senseless and completely idiotic.
I think you should all calm down, and think about what you're doing; this is a forum about juventus, and we all like and love this club. If you don't well then go away. What's the matter about it? If you all hate ranieri, our board, our new signings so much, well then quit supporting juventus... If you're so little satisfied with our results, well then go support inter, or real, or whatever. They have the mourinho you're all screaming for, they sign the ronaldinhos. If you want THAT so much, well then you're supporting the wrong team. It's about a policy that a team pursues.
You might not agree with every signing, every playing system, every decision of our board, and you're free to say so (that's why the forum is here incidentally) but you can do this in a decent tone, and DISCUSS it, instead of shouting some bad words and then bashing everyone who disagrees.
I'm seriously asking myself how old some of the users here are. This whole thing about calling names, making racist comments, getting off-topic only to bash someone, is really getting out of hands, and it's annoying. If you don't have anything constructive to contribute to a discussion, well then say nothing... Things like "secco sucks" lead to NOTHING at all... It's always the same, and it's getting worse and worse. If i were a mod or admin here, i'd have banned some of the people around here already...
Everyone is free to discuss anything, and everyone is free to disagree with our board, but the things i'm reading here just make me question WHY some people are even coming to juventuz. I have the impression that some people just log-in to insult someone, where's the sense in that.
Again; juventus doesn't need you. It's YOU who have chosen to support this team and you're free to change your mind.
I think you should all calm down, and think about what you're doing; this is a forum about juventus, and we all like and love this club. If you don't well then go away. What's the matter about it? If you all hate ranieri, our board, our new signings so much, well then quit supporting juventus... If you're so little satisfied with our results, well then go support inter, or real, or whatever. They have the mourinho you're all screaming for, they sign the ronaldinhos. If you want THAT so much, well then you're supporting the wrong team. It's about a policy that a team pursues.
You might not agree with every signing, every playing system, every decision of our board, and you're free to say so (that's why the forum is here incidentally) but you can do this in a decent tone, and DISCUSS it, instead of shouting some bad words and then bashing everyone who disagrees.
I'm seriously asking myself how old some of the users here are. This whole thing about calling names, making racist comments, getting off-topic only to bash someone, is really getting out of hands, and it's annoying. If you don't have anything constructive to contribute to a discussion, well then say nothing... Things like "secco sucks" lead to NOTHING at all... It's always the same, and it's getting worse and worse. If i were a mod or admin here, i'd have banned some of the people around here already...
Everyone is free to discuss anything, and everyone is free to disagree with our board, but the things i'm reading here just make me question WHY some people are even coming to juventuz. I have the impression that some people just log-in to insult someone, where's the sense in that.
Again; juventus doesn't need you. It's YOU who have chosen to support this team and you're free to change your mind.
Do you even know what your talking about? In this forum we all support Juventus the football team and that allows us to have an opinion on what ever is associated the club. Sure i love juventus more than anything but i HATE Secco and the manager - I hate these 2 charachers because i believe that as hard as they try they are incapable of doing the job which my football club requires and deserves, it is because i support juventus that i hate and insult these people and it is the same for other memebers here on the forum.
If you as an individual are happy to just jump on the bandwagon and accept what is happening without forming an opinion then good for you, but juventus need less people like you and more people who will make their voice heard when they are unhappy, otherwise how would anyone know when they are going wrong?
Sure its immature to just throw in the insults etc but if you hadn't noticed this topic was going off on a tangent about people's hatered of america, which is just not needed here and sometimes a swearword does a better job than a description.
Bottom line is some fans are angry at the way the club is being run, and with just cause, ranieri is an incompetent rambling technician who compares our club to a tree?? Is this someone that deserves to hold the most important position in our club? He has no conviction - NO motivational skills which is clearly evident in our terrible performances against the smaller teams last year and he also seems to have a massivle lack of tactical awareness, i cant remember a time when his substitutions ever inspired us to victory. Not to mention his player selection in the transfer market is shambolic - dont even get me started on secco
Well guess what; for this period Secco, Cobolli and everyone just ARE the club. You can insult them as much as you want, you won't change that fact. You can shout as loud as you can, you can call them all the names you know, you won't change it. In the end, we all want the same, we all want OUR club to succeed. Everyone is thinking that our board is not enough of a fan to juve, but that's not right. They want to win just as much as everyone here and around the world. If not for the love to juve (which is not the case, but since many think like that...), then for their own benefit (prestige, money) but they surely WANT TO WIN.
I can't stand all this hatred and shouting, because it's annoying. You know i don't want anyone to praise ranieri or anyone from morning 'til evening; you are of course allowed to write about your ideas which may very well differ from those of ranieri and secco and everyone but goddamned, in every single thread here i have to read the same things. "we didn't get xabi because secco is a dork", "we sign poulsen because ranieri has no idea about football", "we lose because ranieri has no idea what to do"... come on... I respect everyone's opinion, those in favor of our board and those against, but the same old story over and over again?!? Do I go in every thread and say "Secco rocks the shit because he signed amauri and sissoko"? No!
You know what, there are people in charge who know a whole lot more than we do about football. Even if it may difficult to accept for some, but ranieri surely knows more about football then we do, or did anyone else practice chelsea or juve at some point? And i'm sure there will be people who don't agree with me on this one, but you guys have to realise that you have no idea what's going on in real life football... Winning the trophie with mezzocorona on a football-manager-game does NOT make you a good coach or manager or whatever...
In the end, i don't even care anymore. I got angry because of the shit i read up here, and as a response i get I think that sentence says it all... If this is the idea behind a forum then i got it wrong definitely...
But why am i even saying this. I have the impression that it's useless anyway. I'm glad that some people think the same as i do. For the rest, i'll let you guys cursing at each other... hope you have fun.
I can't stand all this hatred and shouting, because it's annoying. You know i don't want anyone to praise ranieri or anyone from morning 'til evening; you are of course allowed to write about your ideas which may very well differ from those of ranieri and secco and everyone but goddamned, in every single thread here i have to read the same things. "we didn't get xabi because secco is a dork", "we sign poulsen because ranieri has no idea about football", "we lose because ranieri has no idea what to do"... come on... I respect everyone's opinion, those in favor of our board and those against, but the same old story over and over again?!? Do I go in every thread and say "Secco rocks the shit because he signed amauri and sissoko"? No!
You know what, there are people in charge who know a whole lot more than we do about football. Even if it may difficult to accept for some, but ranieri surely knows more about football then we do, or did anyone else practice chelsea or juve at some point? And i'm sure there will be people who don't agree with me on this one, but you guys have to realise that you have no idea what's going on in real life football... Winning the trophie with mezzocorona on a football-manager-game does NOT make you a good coach or manager or whatever...
In the end, i don't even care anymore. I got angry because of the shit i read up here, and as a response i get I think that sentence says it all... If this is the idea behind a forum then i got it wrong definitely...
But why am i even saying this. I have the impression that it's useless anyway. I'm glad that some people think the same as i do. For the rest, i'll let you guys cursing at each other... hope you have fun.
First of all no 'men' are juventus, they may be part of it, but they aren't it.
I seriously think you are missing the point here, i'm sure they want to win but they just aren't good enough. Let me put it this way for you, even if it is grim just so that you can relate to where I am coming from and understand another individuals point of view: If someone you loved had been badly injured in a car crash and needed surgery to survive, would you or would you not want the best surgeon - the surgeon who was at the top of their profession to perform the operation? Would you want someone who was experienced, someone with an excellent track record and proven criteria to treat your loved one or would you want someone who wanted to help but didn't have the capabilities, and if the mediocre surgeon was trusted with your loved one's life would you not protest? Would you accept the decision without voiciung your concern? - the same situation is found here.
Juventus are wounded and need someone at the top to drag them back up with him, they need someone more than ranieri, secco and our current board. No one is claiming that they are trying to spoil our club, they are just not experiecen and skilled enough to carry out the required work, even if their intentionas are good they just keep making one wrong decision after another and if they are not replaced we will never progress - we are like inter 5 years ago - poorly managed.
as for the final comment highlighted you misunderstood me. Swearwords in the english language provide emphasis and harshness, sometimes they need to be expressed to extinguish tension and I have no idea why you are so shy of them - if you want to convey your dislike for someone they are required and appropriate to use, in my eyes ranieri is what i said he is - i dislike him and that is how i feel about him
I seriously think you are missing the point here, i'm sure they want to win but they just aren't good enough. Let me put it this way for you, even if it is grim just so that you can relate to where I am coming from and understand another individuals point of view: If someone you loved had been badly injured in a car crash and needed surgery to survive, would you or would you not want the best surgeon - the surgeon who was at the top of their profession to perform the operation? Would you want someone who was experienced, someone with an excellent track record and proven criteria to treat your loved one or would you want someone who wanted to help but didn't have the capabilities, and if the mediocre surgeon was trusted with your loved one's life would you not protest? Would you accept the decision without voiciung your concern? - the same situation is found here.
Juventus are wounded and need someone at the top to drag them back up with him, they need someone more than ranieri, secco and our current board. No one is claiming that they are trying to spoil our club, they are just not experiecen and skilled enough to carry out the required work, even if their intentionas are good they just keep making one wrong decision after another and if they are not replaced we will never progress - we are like inter 5 years ago - poorly managed.
as for the final comment highlighted you misunderstood me. Swearwords in the english language provide emphasis and harshness, sometimes they need to be expressed to extinguish tension and I have no idea why you are so shy of them - if you want to convey your dislike for someone they are required and appropriate to use, in my eyes ranieri is what i said he is - i dislike him and that is how i feel about him
