Claudio Ranieri (66 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

But Zaf do you realise that Ranieri will probably stay as our coach next season.If we`re going to sack him it should be now because he`ll complete his task and make it to top 4...Do you really think our staff will realise that he`s bad?No because he made it to top 4.I doubt we`re going to sack him at the end of the season without some good reason...

 

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[only-juve]

But Zaf do you realise that Ranieri will probably stay as our coach next season.If we`re going to sack him it should be now because he`ll complete his task and make it to top 4...Do you really think our staff will realise that he`s bad?No because he made it to top 4.I doubt we`re going to sack him at the end of the season without some good reason...

Yep totally agree, ranieri is most likely will stay next season if we qualify for CL, and i think he'll stay even longer (perhaps 2 seasons more).......

 

[joe5]

The qualification of CL is not a precondition for Ranieri to stay. Every coach in Italy with Juve's stuff can do that.

 

[only-juve]

But Zaf do you realise that Ranieri will probably stay as our coach next season.If we`re going to sack him it should be now because he`ll complete his task and make it to top 4...Do you really think our staff will realise that he`s bad?No because he made it to top 4.I doubt we`re going to sack him at the end of the season without some good reason...

Totally agree on that, ranieri gonna stay with juve next season (am pretty sure about it) and perhaps he'll gonna stay for two more seasons till his contract ends.........

 

[Franky4Fingers]

Totally agree on that, ranieri gonna stay with juve next season (am pretty sure about it) and perhaps he'll gonna stay for two more seasons till his contract ends.........

Ah, come on, that's just bullshit. They fired DD too, even though he managed to achieve what was asked of him.
I'd bet that if Lippi or another big name came along Ranieri will be on the first train out.

I really can't stand all those people who are just saying the same shit the rest is saying. The fact still is that our obejctive was to reach a CL-place finish, and we are still on course. With a 7 pt buffer I might add.

 

[Gill_juve]

Ah, come on, that's just bullshit. They fired DD too, even though he managed to achieve what was asked of him.
I'd bet that if Lippi or another big name came along Ranieri will be on the first train out.

I really can't stand all those people who are just saying the same shit the rest is saying. The fact still is that our obejctive was to reach a CL-place finish, and we are still on course. With a 7 pt buffer I might add.

would we complain?

 

[Franky4Fingers]

would we complain?

No I won't, but I wouldn't complain either if we managed to finish top 4 and Ranieri stays.
Our MAIN objective is to play CL next year. How we manage doesn't mather. Whether we finish 2nd or 4th, I don't give a flying fuck. Wether we play lousy or fantastic, again, I don't give a shit. As long as we play CL next year.

If we do, Ranieri has done his job well. He has done better with this Juve then Ancelotti with this Milan and Prandelli with this Fiorentina.

 

[Cronios]

This year, despite us not having a great team, comparing her to our direct opponents,however they gave us the opportunity to rank higher than them.
We cant expect from this material to win any derbies and do some record/impressive wining raws. But expect Juve to win most of the games against weaker opposition.
Our winter crisis and our horrible away record indicate that we are not optimized yet.
There is a series of reasons for that, injuries, referees, limited material and bad teamwork,
but dont forget that CR has also a great fault here. We have lost some points just because of his tactical mistakes too. We already face many problems, facing one less for the next year would be better.
I think that next year, things might go even worse, Milan will spend a lot of money to enhance their team, Roma might survive the financial crisis and invest furthermore,we wont be able to compete with Inter for the next 5 years,
Neddy and DP wont be able to win games for us like the do this year,
new players of their value wont come,
we will be playing in Europe and we cant afford many mistakes there.
For the next year, we need a very competent coach, we cant afford the silly mistakes we did this year. CR will prove himself, if he lead this team to the second spot or third at least but with head and shoulders above Milan,
so far he has been lucky, mainly because of other ppl mistakes, if he keeps it up like that, up until the end of the season, he will prove that all these werent just occasionally wons, obtained by random phenomenons...

 

[Franky4Fingers]

This year, despite us not having a great team, comparing her to our direct opponents,however they gave us the opportunity to rank higher than them.
We cant expect from this material to win any derbies and do some record/impressive wining raws. But expect Juve to win most of the games against weaker opposition.
Our winter crisis and our horrible away record indicate that we are not optimized yet.
There is a series of reasons for that, injuries, referees, limited material and bad teamwork,
but dont forget that CR has also a great fault here. We have lost some points just because of his tactical mistakes too. We already face many problems, facing one less for the next year would be better.
I think that next year, things might go even worse, Milan will spend a lot of money to enhance their team, Roma might survive the financial crisis and invest furthermore,we wont be able to compete with Inter for the next 5 years,
Neddy and DP wont be able to win games for us like the do this year,
new players of their value wont come,
we will be playing in Europe and we cant afford many mistakes there.
For the next year, we need a very competent coach, we cant afford the silly mistakes we did this year. CR will prove himself, if he lead this team to the second spot or third at least but with head and shoulders above Milan,
so far he has been lucky, mainly because of other ppl mistakes, if he keeps it up like that, up until the end of the season, he will prove that all these werent just occasionally wons, obtained by random phenomenons...

Ah Come on, every team, even great ones, lose games against very weak opponents. The fact that we didnt'lose against a biog one untill our last coppa match proves we aren't doing bad.
Next year, things could go very well for us too. Milan is ageing. Totti isn't getting any younger. We could strengthen using CL money. And don't tell me you expect us to catch Inter within the next couple of years. They are miles ahaed of everyone.
And last but not least, take all of the refereeing mistakes away and we would be 1st, if not 2nd.

 

[gsol]

Look I don't often like Ranieri's tactics and I have called to question a lot of what he's done but I really don't think we can criticize him too heavily. We forget that he and many players are new to the team and sometimes we expect miracles. The team's objective this year was to qualify for teh CL and so far thy're doing that and against all odds too. Not too many coaches would be able to come into a new squad with so many new players after a year in an inferior league, a limitted budget, countless injuries, and constant referee incidents at our expense and win the league.

The last thing I want is to see a new coach. It would be the 4th in as many years and we would run the risk of becoming the next Inter (who averaged 1.2 coaches a year for 10 years). Moratti constantly blamed coaches and players (before blaming us) and was the busiest in the transfer market not realizing that his actions were killing the team's stability. Now look. Ya they are benefitting from a lot of bullshit but in the end they are a powerhouse because most of those players have been playing together for the same coach for years.

My opinion is this; keep Claudio but support him. Bring in Lippi as a director and let Secco work under him. Bring in Ciro Ferrara as an assistant coach as well and let the players develop some stability and consistancy. Use the money intended for a new coach to strengthen the squad on the pitch. Moggi always said that for a team to be strong on the field, it needs to be stronger in the office. Lippi and Blanc could offer that. Lippi would be my primary target right now.

 

[Vinman]

SUCKO and RUINeri should be relieved of their duties NOW, before they can destroy this team any further

 

[Franky4Fingers]

SUCKO and RUINeri should be relieved of their duties NOW, before they can destroy this team any further

Get real. They didn't destroy this team, serie B did.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I think its pointless to discuss about Ranieri any further here.People will always have different opinions and they will defend him by saying same crap every time no matter what happens.Get real people and start watching our matches.

 

[Franky4Fingers]

I think its pointless to discus about Ranieri any further here.People will always have different opinions and they defend him by saying same crap every time no matter what happens.

If people didn't have different opinions, there would be no reason to discuss. That's the whole idea of a discussion.

Besides, you are saying I'm talking crap? Why don't you try to argue?

 

[Bjerknes]

If people didn't have different opinions, there would be no reason to discuss. That's the whole idea of a discussion.

But there's no reason to discuss the matter if they'll defend Ranieri no matter what, up until the point he isn't our manager any longer. And before you say that you or others are not blindly supporting him, I can drag up all sorts of posts from others who demonstrate how they'll support the manager no matter where we finish this season.

Blind support is one of my pet peeves.

 

[Dostoevsky]

If people didn't have different opinions, there would be no reason to discuss. That's the whole idea of a discussion.

Besides, you are saying I'm talking crap? Why don't you try to argue?

You people defend Ranieri by saying we`re looking good at table.Start watching matches.He don`t know sh*t.He will destroy our future by pointing out to our staff that we don`t need AMC and we need another DM.
If we continue playing like this they will eat us next year in CL.

 

[Vinman]

Get real. They didn't destroy this team, serie B did.

If people didn't have different opinions, there would be no reason to discuss. That's the whole idea of a discussion.

Besides, you are saying I'm talking crap? Why don't you try to argue?

whats the point, 88 fingers Louie ??

watch some matches, and try to understand what you are watching, and stop blaming Serie B for RUINeri's inadequacies as a coach

 

[Franky4Fingers]

But there's no reason to discuss the matter if they'll defend Ranieri no matter what, up until the point he isn't our manager any longer. And before you say that you or others are not blindly supporting him, I can drag up all sorts of posts from others who demonstrate how they'll support the manager no matter where we finish this season.

Blind support is one of my pet peeves.

I can only talk on my own behalf, and I will support him as long as he is reaching our objectives.

 

[gsol]

I'm not blindly supporting anyone. I wish Juve had kept Deschamps personally. All I am saying is that bring a fourth coach will just force the team to start from scratch again. This isn't the Juventus Capello walked into that was already a well structured unit. Whoever comes next year will be building again almost from the ground up. It might not be the best idea.

 

[Bjerknes]

You people defend Ranieri by saying we`re looking good at table.Start watching matches.He don`t know sh*t.He will destroy our future by pointing out to our staff that we don`t need AMC and we need another DM.
If we continue playing like this they will eat us next year in CL.

whats the point, 88 fingers Louie ??

watch some matches, and try to understand what you are watching, and stop blaming Serie B for RUINeri's inadequacies as a coach

Both are correct.