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What optimism? Did you see me saying that we will have a golden period ahead of us? The thing is I am only disliking the pessimism that is floating around. This does not make me an optimist.
Same thing snoop mentioned the other day, last season it was if you don't bash Capello then you love him. Let's not make the same thing this time, if one is NOT pessimist it does not mean that one is optimist.
Same thing snoop mentioned the other day, last season it was if you don't bash Capello then you love him. Let's not make the same thing this time, if one is NOT pessimist it does not mean that one is optimist.
@ Jacques: Dude you're not wrong if you are being an optimist/realist/pessimist. I understand your angst against what's floating around, but you need to understand the cause of that is also because fans love this team as much as you do. And words only count for that much. People can say what they want, at the end of the day, it's what's going to happen on the pitch. So you can take consolation from that fact.
@ vOnAm: In a perfect world, I would've opted for Lippi and a third stint, because he'd have brought us upto speed a lot quicker, but more importantly he would've brought in new players and instilled the winning mentality in them to lay the foundations of another winning cycle. I've been all for Vialli since the time Lippi quit. I think he could've done great things with us. Call it instinct, or whatever, I do think he had the personality and temperament to coach a time like ours. Mourinho also I feel, would've fit beautifully.
@ vOnAm: In a perfect world, I would've opted for Lippi and a third stint, because he'd have brought us upto speed a lot quicker, but more importantly he would've brought in new players and instilled the winning mentality in them to lay the foundations of another winning cycle. I've been all for Vialli since the time Lippi quit. I think he could've done great things with us. Call it instinct, or whatever, I do think he had the personality and temperament to coach a time like ours. Mourinho also I feel, would've fit beautifully.
Pronounce myself on his character? Dude, it's nothing personal. I rate him as a coach, but not on the level of the team I support. That's all there is to it. What's wrong if I love my team more than their new coach? Dont see no harm with that.
A bigger choker? Well, yes, considering he's made one semi final and we've made seven finals, I guess the scope to choke is greater. Despite which, we've got two CL's in the bag and 29 oh sorry, 27 scudetti to boot. Let's just call ourselves successful chokers then.
@ Baggio: I think many of us here prefered Lippi, even the board too. But he beacame an unrealistic target as soon as he said he will not quit his sabatical just yet. Mourinho, although is almost a guarentee for success, would have been a very hard target for our board, and thus I think is less likely to have come anyways.
Vialli would probably have been more likely to come, but then again, when u compare Ranieri and Vialli as caoches, whats the big difference?
I think we did alright, by signing Ranieri, ofcourse I would have liked Prandelli or Spalleti, heck Delio Rossi. But I guess out of all the realistic available options, Ranieri is an acceptable one. The mentality thing u brought up is a threat, but I'll be optimistic nonetheless.
Just being able to watch Juve again EVERY WEEK is a great satisfaction for me, regardless whether they win or not.
Vialli would probably have been more likely to come, but then again, when u compare Ranieri and Vialli as caoches, whats the big difference?
I think we did alright, by signing Ranieri, ofcourse I would have liked Prandelli or Spalleti, heck Delio Rossi. But I guess out of all the realistic available options, Ranieri is an acceptable one. The mentality thing u brought up is a threat, but I'll be optimistic nonetheless.
Just being able to watch Juve again EVERY WEEK is a great satisfaction for me, regardless whether they win or not.
I think Spalletti would've been good, but the latter three were unrealistic targets. Dude, I don't know about the Vialli - Ranieri comparison on the temperament front, just feel he had that little bit extra. But what's done is done. And no doubt, watching Juve again, is going to be orgasmic. Regardless of whether they win or not.
PS: Now, let's just hope we can keep Trezegol.
Pronounce myself on his character? Dude, it's nothing personal. I rate him as a coach, but not on the level of the team I support. That's all there is to it. What's wrong if I love my team more than their new coach? Dont see no harm with that.
A bigger choker? Well, yes, considering he's made one semi final and we've made seven finals, I guess the scope to choke is greater. Despite which, we've got two CL's in the bag and 29 oh sorry, 27 scudetti to boot. Let's just call ourselves successful chokers then.
A bigger choker? Well, yes, considering he's made one semi final and we've made seven finals, I guess the scope to choke is greater. Despite which, we've got two CL's in the bag and 29 oh sorry, 27 scudetti to boot. Let's just call ourselves successful chokers then.
Simply because you re not discussing his tactical ways but rather his psycholigical mantle. The guy can coach period.
and for CL pay attention to "in that contest" in my reply, Losing to dortmund a zidaneless madrid and failing to reach the semis 2 years in a row with arguably the best squad in the world, as much as i hate saying it we are chokers in CL.
I don't get comparing Juve to Ranieri, u could compare Capello to him?
Anyways, strategies don't only include selecting the right players and playing the right formation, its also about motivating and a whole lot of psychological mind games with ur players and ur opponents.
I do like Ranieri's stlye of football back at Chelsea, can't say the same of his second stint at Valencia. So at the very least Im hoping for some entertainment on my weekends.
Anyways, strategies don't only include selecting the right players and playing the right formation, its also about motivating and a whole lot of psychological mind games with ur players and ur opponents.
I do like Ranieri's stlye of football back at Chelsea, can't say the same of his second stint at Valencia. So at the very least Im hoping for some entertainment on my weekends.
the comparison was prompted when some mentioned ranieri not being quite up there as far as winners go to coach juve. The fact is juve hasnt been scaring anyone for a while on the european stage.
you ruined your last sentence with "at the very least part", without it that woulda been one the wisest things i ve read here.
you ruined your last sentence with "at the very least part", without it that woulda been one the wisest things i ve read here.
Yes, but when you're rebuilding a young squad, then your psychological mantle is as important as your tactics if not more. Remember, tactics can only do so much, but when it comes to action on the pitch what distinguishes your team from your opponent is their habit to win. Have you followed Inter this season, they've had so many last minute goals - thats because they developed that mental ability and created a winning habit, so when it came to the crux and they were a goal down in the dying moments of the game, they didnt let go and would fight till they got the equaliser. Or that winning goal. It's quite like what Juve has had all these years.
What are you on about? You're a prime example of the weight of expectation I speak of. Yes, we should've won more than we did, when we made four finals in five seasons, three consecutively. That's an achievement that deserves far more credit than you offer. But given that we've not achieved what we should've in no way should lend Ranieri any consolation, because if we were 'chokers' then, it's unlikely he's going to make us a world beater in the CL now. Unlikely, not impossible. Hope I'm not pronouncing on his character again.
Yea bro. 140 goals in seven seasons is special man. With one season out injured. So for all practical purposes that's 140 goals in six seasons. That guy has a special place in my Juve heart. We may get a Huntelaar or whatever, but we're reinforcing areas that dont need any reinforcement. And I so dont want to get started about the board.
We will find out in the next few days. Rumours are already gaining speed that we're going to be swapping him for Gilberto Silva at Arsenal.
The very least part is meant that I conceed to accept whatever results (aside from relegation and bottom place finish) Juve can get. I am really just happy to have a game to look forward to on Sunday.
I haven't really followed football as much since last season. Still watched games, but not with any enthusiasm.
I haven't really followed football as much since last season. Still watched games, but not with any enthusiasm.
Yea bro. 140 goals in seven seasons is special man. With one season out injured. So for all practical purposes that's 140 goals in six seasons. That guy has a special place in my Juve heart. We may get a Huntelaar or whatever, but we're reinforcing areas that dont need any reinforcement. And I so dont want to get started about the board.
We will find out in the next few days. Rumours are already gaining speed that we're going to be swapping him for Gilberto Silva at Arsenal.
We will find out in the next few days. Rumours are already gaining speed that we're going to be swapping him for Gilberto Silva at Arsenal.
We are still yet to be linked with creative midfielders aside from VDV. We're linked to many midfielders and defensive ones at that. Considering Ranieri is just hired, he's probably only begun to make a wishlist.
He's probably halfway reviewing our serie B game tapes.
