Claudio Ranieri (64 Viewers)

[Mark]

Gasperini is not Juve material. Get over it, Mark


I forgot the Chelsea alternative. Yeah, probably he is moving to London

He can from the same Juve fiber a few years ago as a player and youth coach so technically he is Juve material.

 

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[Firestarter]

felix who :d now seriously gimme your real pick

Manuel Pellegrini, perhaps.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Manuel Pellegrini, perhaps.

only maybes and question marks out there, i say we stick with him for another year

 

[Bjerknes]

felix who :d now seriously gimme your real pick

Ancelotti to Chelsea, Hiddink to Juventus. :xfinger:

 

[icemaη]

If Hiddink wanted to stay coaching clubs, why wouldn't he just stay at Chelsea?

 

[bianconero]

Ancelotti to Chelsea, Hiddink to Juventus. :xfinger:

How unlikely is that.

I'd welcome Carlo back, though.

But, alas, it won't happen, so why not afresh our team with Diego and Thomas Schaaf to begin with.

 

[Bjerknes]

There are rumors that Ancelotti has already been offered the job for next season. And if so, I'd love to round up Hiddink.

 

[bianconero]

It strikes me, that if Carlo were to go to Chelsea and Hiddink broke his promises to the Russian Federation, them Milan would, as things currently stand, be a more enticing and likely destination for Gus.

 

[Bjerknes]

Maybe so, but then again Rijkaard is available for Milan.

 

[bianconero]

Just so long as Rij(spitinyourface)kaard stays away from Juve.

 

[David01]

Pellegrini

 

[Red]

No i think our dependence on Alex is a lot worse and needs to be addressed first as with the long absences of camo the last 2 years hes been our only creative spark. And if Gio is really his successor for us he needs to get regular playing time pronto.

I think with a creative midefielder, a fit Camo and Giovinco starting to establish himself the dependence on Del Piero will start to ease and we won't be so reliant on him.

why? it really doesnt make any sense, Ranieri has done/been doing a good job and gasperini doesnt suggest anything on paper to be better plus he ll be handicapped as he will have to acclaim himself with the team and all

I wasn't including Ranieri in what I said.

I meant that if we were to change coach, Gasperini would be the best option.

However, I have also said that I wouldn't change coach for the sake of it. It would have to be a real upgrade to Ranieri and I'm no more convinced than you that Gasperini would offer that.

 

[JCK]

There are rumors that Ancelotti has already been offered the job for next season. And if so, I'd love to round up Hiddink.

Hiddink has already the Russian national team and his spell with Chelsea is temporary.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I think with a creative midefielder, a fit Camo and Giovinco starting to establish himself the dependence on Del Piero will start to ease and we won't be so reliant on him.



I wasn't including Ranieri in what I said.

I meant that if we were to change coach, Gasperini would be the best option.

However, I have also said that I wouldn't change coach for the sake of it. It would have to be a real upgrade to Ranieri and I'm no more convinced than you that Gasperini would offer that.

then on the same page sir

 

[dogsarecute]

So if his other teams didn't have a chance of winning, doesn't that make his "great team builder" status meaningless? I mean, a team built well should have a chance to win. If not then Ranieri may not be a loser but rather just an average coach who hasn't really done anything in his career, including build good teams.

Judging by your signature, the Lippi comment and how you applaud Ranieri for finishing above Ferguson in one season, I'd say you're a very delusional fan who's simply trying to defend Ranieri no matter what.

And if so, you should cut it the fuck out because you're looking extremely foolish.

He took teams from lower leagues to Serie A. Do you really expect them to challenge for the trophy? Their aim is to avoid relegation. His record consists of more teams in relegation, in lower leagues and mid-table woes and once the team is stable, he is off to another club. If he is an average coach, I wonder why most clubs improve their standings after employing him.

The Lippi comment is correct. I am not comparing their trophy room but their record at what they are most recognised for. Just as Lippi's failure at Inter doesn't tarnish his record, Ranieri's failure in Valencia does not mean he suddenly sucked. He subsequently saved Parma from relegation. Finishing above Ferguson is a mean feat itself because he introduced many new players and the team basically had little time to gel. It was the only time a team he has managed looked like a top squad, so it is also the only time in which we can see how good he is at challenging for titles.

 

[Snoop]

Let's get Terim!

 

[Cronios]

I do believe that our transfer strategy imposed to CR, is our worst enemy.
This board would only accept a coach who would obey their policy and not one who try to imply his. The situation with DD proved and IMO the way CR has been treated so far also proves that it is still our priority/policy as a club.

A proven coach may not accept to work under those circumstances, atm we might not even deserve to have a better coach.
CR is already working with a handicap, he made many mistakes of his own,
but if we have to choose from no ones, another no one coach wold also make some similar mistakes.
We are not ready for the big step, unless our boards decides it is time for that.
And since they insist they intend to continue with CR for one more year, it is clear in my mind that they intend to keep it that way for at least one more year!
We are not going to get any better coach and each time a team changes her coach does suffers some consequences from the changes the new coach brings, since the coach and players need some time to accommodate with the new reality.
I want this change as any other Juventino, but i wanted when we are ready for it, not for the shake of it.
A new coach will not magically erase all the mistakes Secco has done and will not turn Molinaro, Legro and Grygera into a wc defensive line...
We must first solve our most essential problems. Do not expect miracles from an unknown coach. This is what all the small clubs and their fans do, but we are better than that, we know better than that. We have seen what it takes to be a champions. A quick look to our board and some departments of our squad are enough to easily spot out our greatest weaknesses...

 

[Bozi]

He might have won if Abramovich had given him the chance. Ranieri finished above Alex Ferguson's team remember? The other teams he managed had no real chance of winning anything so that "losing mentality" is sadly overrated.

for me the saddest thing is that people point to his time at chelsea as proof of his failure, yet in his last year he was only pipped to the title by an Arsenal team that went a complete season unbeaten,he also brought players like Lampard and Cech to chelsea who are still doing the business for them

If ranieri is replaced, we should give the team to someone who will build it up from scratch. It would be the end of an era in so many respects. This hold/dependence what ever you want to call it that Alex has on the team needs to be addressed by our next coach. If gio is to stay with us next year he HAS to start ahead of Alex; we need to think ahead.

so......basically a 5-year plan that includes phasing out some of our past/ current stars as they age and supplementing them with the youngsters.......

So if his other teams didn't have a chance of winning, doesn't that make his "great team builder" status meaningless? I mean, a team built well should have a chance to win. If not then Ranieri may not be a loser but rather just an average coach who hasn't really done anything in his career, including build good teams.

Judging by your signature, the Lippi comment and how you applaud Ranieri for finishing above Ferguson in one season, I'd say you're a very delusional fan who's simply trying to defend Ranieri no matter what.

And if so, you should cut it the fuck out because you're looking extremely foolish.

to back up Andy, the only year he had real money to spend he was only beaten by a freak team having a freak season. i think to get a real test of Ranieri's perceived success/lack of success is to look at how many players went on to perform well for the teams he left behind

@ Canardo:

Hard to say off the top of the head. But there is certain criteria a club in Juve's position should look for. Juve are in a transitional faze between and old guard and what is yet to come. They need a manager with three things:

1)Energy, someone with a passion who realizes that he will have to earn success and not expect the opposition (Milans etc) to just give it to them. A motivator of sorts.
2)A builder. A manager willing to invest time and effort in building a successful club, not just a first team build on overpriced talent. Planting a scouting system to get not only the best talent in Italy but also in the world. He needs to have a vision of an identity not just for that season or the next, but for 5 seasons later after his contract is run.
3)Obvious tactical talent. The first two mean nothing if the manager can't make snap decisions during matches. He needs to know the players and their capabilities, so he can make adjustments and realize when someone is just not going to perform.

I don't think Ranieri is any of those things. But I really can recall anyone who is either straight off.

see criteria 2 falls on it's arse when it comes to Juve, the fans want INSTANT gratification

in Serie B there's only Conte and I don't think he's ready for the big club. I don't know what's up with Gentile who did well with the U-21 team but didn't find a club even in Serie C. The rest of Serie B coaches are just average at best. Good to get teams up for promotion and shit. Not a fan of Casiraghi but he's not bad.

Prandelli's another one who never really won anything and seems like he doesn't really care about his club at times. Doesn't show true leadership. Spalletti's even worse. The guy looks like he's dozing off at times when the camera makes a closeup during the game. Zenga's from the new young coaches brand that's bringing something new to the game.

Outside Italy I don't see Hiddink wanting to come here. Not a fan of Rijkaard. Sven is available but can he still cut it? Scolari? nah! Benitez re-signed with Pool.

Gasperini would be ideal. Not a lot of experience like I said before but knows our youngsters and if someone's gonna play Giiovinco, Marchisio and also De Ceglie/Criscito it's him.

He should have a trainer with experience playing every 3 days.

so there is basically no-one to appease teh fans?

Pellegrini

great coach,one of the few top coaches that we could realistically get as well,if we did jump the gun and sack ranieri

 

[Sadomin]

Mancini - Mihajlovic are available.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Gasperini:

“Juventus represent about 20 years of my life. When I was a child I dreamed of playing for their first team but I wasn't good enough. Now I hope I would be up to the challenge of coaching them.

“However, I want to focus on the present and I must say that I am a bit annoyed at the whispers.

“We are achieving something important at Genoa and there is a wonderful atmosphere here. Only time will tell what the future holds.”