Claudio Ranieri (37 Viewers)
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Then you have a long wait.
The effects of being (unfairly) sent down to Serie B, are only now beginning to truly reveal themselves. Any success has been on the backs of the players who went down with us, and, other than Sissosko, those who have joined are good players only.
Our team is still relient on the old guard, and they are really getting old.
Our future, without inspired signings of young talent, talent coming through the ranks, and major investment in a coach and world class players (4), Juve look like a team 2/3 years away from challenging for the Scudetto.
The effects of being (unfairly) sent down to Serie B, are only now beginning to truly reveal themselves. Any success has been on the backs of the players who went down with us, and, other than Sissosko, those who have joined are good players only.
Our team is still relient on the old guard, and they are really getting old.
Our future, without inspired signings of young talent, talent coming through the ranks, and major investment in a coach and world class players (4), Juve look like a team 2/3 years away from challenging for the Scudetto.
why would he start from scratch? cant he just get rid of the useless ones and build on the useful ones??
thats exactly what i am trying to say, there are no promises being fulfilled..last summer they promised a wc midfielder and we were praying for xabi alonso, and it the wc midfielder was poulsen!! i mean come on
thats exactly what i am trying to say, there are no promises being fulfilled..last summer they promised a wc midfielder and we were praying for xabi alonso, and it the wc midfielder was poulsen!! i mean come on
before the season, everyone would have agreed, that the second place is a good achievement for us...
but the problem is, that ranieri made some of you think that we would win the scudetto, because we had some winning streaks and now everybody is crying about what would have been.
yeah, i agree ... without the injury crisis we could be on the top spot right now, yes ! that was something that was not predictable, but the mistakes of ranieri and our players were always going to happen and so the chance on the scudetto was really slim anyways.
the players DO HAVE much MORE IMPACT on the result of the game than ranieri.
just compare it, ranieri does get less money, but still is made responsible for the errors others make.
when he does a tactical mistake and brings on the wrong type of player it is not sure that we will lose the game. the player could overperform and so bring us the points or at least have no effect on the result.
when some legrotagglie does make an error we do concede a goal and have to score two goals to win.
when del piero misses a sitter because he is to selfish, (we should have been infront by one goal) than we will lose at least 2 points... but hey it is always ranieri who is to blame ...
players impact is much greater and every player makes mistakes ... in every game ... but when a coach does one mistake a game he is to blame ? ah come on
ranieri winning too many games is like the people in the zoo going by the apes with a bunch of bananas before lunchtime ... its just too early to eat them, but the apes will cry because they see the bananas !
yeah i know you dream of it !
but the problem is, that ranieri made some of you think that we would win the scudetto, because we had some winning streaks and now everybody is crying about what would have been.
yeah, i agree ... without the injury crisis we could be on the top spot right now, yes ! that was something that was not predictable, but the mistakes of ranieri and our players were always going to happen and so the chance on the scudetto was really slim anyways.
the players DO HAVE much MORE IMPACT on the result of the game than ranieri.
just compare it, ranieri does get less money, but still is made responsible for the errors others make.
when he does a tactical mistake and brings on the wrong type of player it is not sure that we will lose the game. the player could overperform and so bring us the points or at least have no effect on the result.
when some legrotagglie does make an error we do concede a goal and have to score two goals to win.
when del piero misses a sitter because he is to selfish, (we should have been infront by one goal) than we will lose at least 2 points... but hey it is always ranieri who is to blame ...
players impact is much greater and every player makes mistakes ... in every game ... but when a coach does one mistake a game he is to blame ? ah come on
ranieri winning too many games is like the people in the zoo going by the apes with a bunch of bananas before lunchtime ... its just too early to eat them, but the apes will cry because they see the bananas !
yeah i know you dream of it !
Well said. But I am afraid that most of the fans still fantasise about the past where we are top and our defence is unbreachable. The recent post about 2-3 years more to glory clearly show the divide in thinking. While the management set a 5-year plan, we set a 1 or 2 year plan. While the management wants to develop young players, we want established names to come in immediately so that the team will look more like the conquerors of the past years. And did anyone notice that Genoa are fourth on the table and not the lousy team they used to be?
Sometimes logic goes out of the window. Anyone who witnessed the performance of Lucas will naturally recognise that the sale of Alonso is impossible but somehow, it was stuck in our mind that he was destined to come until Ranieri stopped the transfer. Poulsen became a mediocre player because he is the cheap second option. Marchionni somehow transformed into a starter in some people's mind because he is playing regularly(I guess John O'Shea is Man U's starting right-back as well then), and Mellberg became our star defensive starter buy.
My comments about Amauri and Sissoko were meant to be sarcastic.
Sometimes logic goes out of the window. Anyone who witnessed the performance of Lucas will naturally recognise that the sale of Alonso is impossible but somehow, it was stuck in our mind that he was destined to come until Ranieri stopped the transfer. Poulsen became a mediocre player because he is the cheap second option. Marchionni somehow transformed into a starter in some people's mind because he is playing regularly(I guess John O'Shea is Man U's starting right-back as well then), and Mellberg became our star defensive starter buy.
My comments about Amauri and Sissoko were meant to be sarcastic.
This is the main issue here. No matter how failure the board could be, the good manager can cover that with his plans. I or other angry fans are not expecting us to be like we were right before the Calciopoli, but the huge mistakes he makes one after other give no trust to anyone, I won't complain if he get sacked before the next season, and if the board sack him and bring the best available, then the board gets my respect and Ranieri also. But if they will call this success, and keep him for another year, then that's nothing but a ridiculous decision..
I still find that one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, and it's debatable if it even has any truth. In reality, the managers who were able to win after him created the winning team, because they actually won with it.
Jeez, it's like anything must be said to give this guy SOMETHING. It's as idiotic as defending Molinaro by claiming he tries hard.
But that's what we have become as club. We try hard but in the end we lose out.
Jeez, it's like anything must be said to give this guy SOMETHING. It's as idiotic as defending Molinaro by claiming he tries hard.
But that's what we have become as club. We try hard but in the end we lose out.