Claudio Ranieri (68 Viewers)

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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I'm not attacking him.

Keeping Nedved all the time is pontless considering his form this season and no matter if he (Ranieri) wants to close it down or not.He should be rested more often and subbed out for De Ceglie if Giovinco is too offensive.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Let's fire him now so we can say "You know what, Claudio was the one who made this CL winning team, props to him".
I used to ask his head before, but he is doing good lately. I am not saying he is a good coach now, he isn't. But he isn't harming much as before. At the end of the season, he should be replaced imo. That if he doesn't win anything then..


I didn't see the Fiorentina match, so I can't really coment on that.

If Nedved was as poor and as tired as people say, then he should have been taken off. However, whilst maintaining the 4-4-2, the options to replace him were pretty limited due to De Ceglie playing at LB and Molinaro's suspension.

A lot of it comes down to mentality. I, like Raneri, am in favour of closing down a game in which you are leading, particularly late on, rather than pushing to try and extend the lead. Folk who go with the 'attack is the best form of defence' mentality are never likely to agree with Ranieri's substitutions.
Probably Nedved's worst match so far, I am not with those who bashes Nedved 24/7, I believe he still can give, but Ranieri is killing him, and Fiorentina match was the latest proof.

As for closing down, I am a fan of closing down pressing the opponent, you saw Milan match right? That was the perfect football for me, to start defending putting pressure right from opponent's defensive area. But Ranieri started to act like before, sit behind and give looooong passes to the opponent's defenders, you can't win time like that.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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Once Nedved was awful and Marchionni decent.He subbed Marco with De Ceglie who is not even that position.I fail to see any logic there.

Keeping Nedved all the time is not normal.Like I said a couple of times,Nedved lost it.He's 36yo and he's can't do his old job.He can still cover a lot of space but it's not the good ol' Nedved.This season was pretty much terrible for him so I don't know why he can't be subbed.He should give a chance to De Ceglie or Giovinco sometimes.

I'm not trying to bash Ranieri here by the way.I just don't like some of his moves.
So long as criticism is constructive, so it isn't bashing as far as I'm concerned.

What it comes down to with Nedved, I think, is that Ranieri trusts him. Nedved, while his legs are going, is still a very intelligent player and is good at doing what is necessary depending on the stage of the game.

Other players, like Marchionni and De Ceglie, aren't anywhere near as intelligent, so it is less risky to leave Nedved on and only have one of Marchionni and De Ceglie on the pitch at any given time.

I can't wait for Camoranesi to get fit, because I think Ranieri may be less reluctant to rest Nedved once Camo is fit.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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Probably Nedved's worst match so far, I am not with those who bashes Nedved 24/7, I believe he still can give, but Ranieri is killing him, and Fiorentina match was the latest proof.

As for closing down, I am a fan of closing down pressing the opponent, you saw Milan match right? That was the perfect football for me, to start defending putting pressure right from opponent's defensive area. But Ranieri started to act like before, sit behind and give looooong passes to the opponent's defenders, you can't win time like that.
There are times when pressing high up the pitch is a good option. Against Milan it was the right thing to do because they were down to 10 men and our midfield was much more athletic than their.

Against Fiorentina, this high pressing would have been much harder to do, primarily because of not having Sissoko, who makes a massive difference to our ability to press teams high up the pitch. Marchisio, Zanetti and Poulsen are all good players, but none of them has the raw power and athleticism of Sissoko.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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So long as criticism is constructive, so it isn't bashing as far as I'm concerned.

What it comes down to with Nedved, I think, is that Ranieri trusts him. Nedved, while his legs are going, is still a very intelligent player and is good at doing what is necessary depending on the stage of the game.

Other players, like Marchionni and De Ceglie, aren't anywhere near as intelligent, so it is less risky to leave Nedved on and only have one of Marchionni and De Ceglie on the pitch at any given time.

I can't wait for Camoranesi to get fit, because I think Ranieri may be less reluctant to rest Nedved once Camo is fit.
He must trusts him a lot then.He's,should I say,experienced...but he's just making a lot of mistakes this season which is not so usual for him.He's making mistakes in short passes and he's not covering the forward area as much as he used to.He stop shooting for a long distance as well and he's not that fast.
De Ceglie used to play there and he had some sweet crosses.Also,Giovinco was unstoppable on the left when we played in Coppa.He offered a lot more than Paven in this whole season.

I want Camo back too.I'd like to see

Giovinco-Sissoko-Marchisio-Camo
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
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It's silly actually.
i tell you what is silly. To attack him when he fails and leaves, that one is retarded when everything is so obvious. While no one is attacking Ranieri now, he is being criticized deservedly. It's not about score and statistics only. Almost everyone told after the Fiorentina match that we kept the win thanx to Buffon, so..
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
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There are times when pressing high up the pitch is a good option. Against Milan it was the right thing to do because they were down to 10 men and our midfield was much more athletic than their.

Against Fiorentina, this high pressing would have been much harder to do, primarily because of not having Sissoko, who makes a massive difference to our ability to press teams high up the pitch. Marchisio, Zanetti and Poulsen are all good players, but none of them has the raw power and athleticism of Sissoko.
I didn't mean Fiorentina particularly, but in general.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Ok I'll stop here since it's silly and boring to discuss it.
I didn't meant that discussing Claudio Ranieri is boring/silly. But since the start of the season some people are trying to bring him down trying to use every chance to bash him when in reality there's nothing to criticize him about, except maybe for some of his tactical errors or silly subs like the one with Del Piero.

Each to his own anyway, that's part of the game, but personally, I'm very satisfied.


Putting aside the injuries and pressure he had to deal with at the start of the season....

- We have the best defense so far
- 2goals behind Milan(best attack) so far
- 3points behind Inter
- Finishing top in CL
- We are currently a team that obliges our opponents to do their maths before facing us.
-etc.

Ranieri isn't my fav, but what can you ask for more?
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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I fail to understand what you mean. But i'll try

i tell you what is silly. To attack him when he fails and leaves, that one is retarded when everything is so obvious.
You are sure that he'll fail and that's why you don't want to praise his current success?
You attacked him in the past and now you don't want to praise him just because he might fail some day?



While no one is attacking Ranieri now, he is being criticized deservedly.
Sometimes he is criticized deservedly. But most of the time it's people who couldn't stop attacking him in the past and who were his loudest haters, not being able to admit that they were wrong about some things regarding Ranieri and they keep finding reasons not to praise him.

Almost everyone told after the Fiorentina match that we kept the win thanx to Buffon, so..
I can put it differently.
We didn't destroy Fiorentina 4:0 thanks to Frey, so.......

The coach can't do both his job and the job of the players. If the coach's influence in the game was 100% then why buy superstars? Buy 11 Molinaro's and leave everything to the coach.

Buffon simply did his job. But the work of the coach can be seen when there isn't enough quality and he still poduces results. For example, that's the case with our defense.

So, instead of fishing some minor details, like "Oh, why didn't he sub De Ceglie, but he subbed Knezevic", just so you can find a reason to attack him, look at the bigger picture and you will see that what Ranieri and the assistant coaches did with the players at their disposal is something remarkable.

But since you're one of those who "never change their minds and always stick to their opinion" i guess you will criticize him no matter what he does.
You're Cronios, Ranieri is Molinaro.
 

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