Claudio Marchisio (71 Viewers)

[edgardavids2608]

Its sad to see him not fully fit. Such a quality player when he was fit and could plaug in anywhere in the middle. Not really sure what to do with him now? If he starts at regista can he play full 90 there? Its tough starting a guy when you know he cant play the full game. Limits you tactically

 

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[Hust]

Ok but what does Khedira add that Marchisio can’t? An off day by Claudio is about the same as a normal day at this point for Khedira.

Bottom line is, if Claudio is ever to get back to a decent form he needs to play more and Khedira less. A performing Claudio is more important to this team than a standard Khedira day on the job.

 

[zizinho]

Ok but what does Khedira add that Marchisio can’t? An off day by Claudio is about the same as a normal day at this point for Khedira.

Bottom line is, if Claudio is ever to get back to a decent form he needs to play more and Khedira less. A performing Claudio is more important to this team than a standard Khedira day on the job.

right now? off ball movement, aerial presence and defensive stability. but most importantly, hes in the physical condition to play 90 minutes of high tempo week in week out. as much as we all love Marchisio, hes simply not capable of playing at the highest level right now + the risk of injury is too high with him. the best we can do is hope hes back to 100% at some point this season, but if he stays the way hes now, then hes of little use to this team

 

[Monty]

right now? off ball movement, aerial presence and defensive stability. but most importantly, hes in the physical condition to play 90 minutes of high tempo week in week out. as much as we all love Marchisio, hes simply not capable of playing at the highest level right now + the risk of injury is too high with him. the best we can do is hope hes back to 100% at some point this season, but if he stays the way hes now, then hes of little use to this team

khedira is also a better finisher than marchisio...even peak marchisio

 

[Hust]

right now? off ball movement, aerial presence and defensive stability. but most importantly, hes in the physical condition to play 90 minutes of high tempo week in week out. as much as we all love Marchisio, hes simply not capable of playing at the highest level right now + the risk of injury is too high with him. the best we can do is hope hes back to 100% at some point this season, but if he stays the way hes now, then hes of little use to this team

Only way to get Marchisio in 90 min legs is to play him. Having him fit for the 2nd half of the season is more important than having Khedira fit

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khedira is also a better finisher than marchisio...even peak marchisio

Lol because that’s what we want/need Claudio for...finishing.

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That goal conceded last weekend sure shows Khedira’s defensive solidity though

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I can’t believe that I’m arguing a fit and in form Marchisio is somehow less than the status quo Sami.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Didn't see the game, sad to read he's still unfit... I can only hope that he can back into great shape. But then again he can get injured again at any time. Perhaps he will see out the rest of his career as a quality squad player...

 

[Hydde]

Only way to get Marchisio in 90 min legs is to play him. Having him fit for the 2nd half of the season is more important than having Khedira fit

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Lol because that’s what we want/need Claudio for...finishing.

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That goal conceded last weekend sure shows Khedira’s defensive solidity though

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I can’t believe that I’m arguing a fit and in form Marchisio is somehow less than the status quo Sami.

Marchisio is double the player khedira is. He needs to recover fast, lets hope.

Otherwise we will have to withstand the german until endseason. Nightmarish.

 

[zizinho]

Only way to get Marchisio in 90 min legs is to play him. Having him fit for the 2nd half of the season is more important than having Khedira fit

No, that's not the way, and certainly not the only way. Marchisio this season has played less than... Wait for it... Sturaro!!! You tell me on what metrics should Stu be ahead of Marchisio? It's obvious, he simply can't play. It has nothing to do with ability, Marchisio can not play on a high pace (for now atleast), and Max is doing the right thing slowly increasing his playing time but still not playing him much. Marchisio needs to work on increasing his physical level to atleast being able to play a game per week without any problems (high tempo CL kind of game, not Benevento walking around kind of game), before we even begin to consider him seriously over Sami.

Lol because that’s what we want/need Claudio for...finishing.

Yes, from a b2b mid, that's one of the things you need

That goal conceded last weekend sure shows Khedira’s defensive solidity though

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I can’t believe that I’m arguing a fit and in form Marchisio is somehow less than the status quo Sami.

That goal was on Matuidi

A fit and in form Marchisio... Well, that's kinda the point here. Brace yourselves *intense drums* - current Marchisio is far away from a fit and in form Marchisio, if he was atleast physically, he would play much, much more

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Didn't see the game, sad to read he's still unfit... I can only hope that he can back into great shape. But then again he can get injured again at any time. Perhaps he will see out the rest of his career as a quality squad player...

That's what I feared for a while now, and he was so great before that injury. It was tearing my heart seeing him play yesterday

 

[edgardavids2608]

No, that's not the way, and certainly not the only way. Marchisio this season has played less than... Wait for it... Sturaro!!! You tell me on what metrics should Stu be ahead of Marchisio? It's obvious, he simply can't play. It has nothing to do with ability, Marchisio can not play on a high pace (for now atleast), and Max is doing the right thing slowly increasing his playing time but still not playing him much. Marchisio needs to work on increasing his physical level to atleast being able to play a game per week without any problems (high tempo CL kind of game, not Benevento walking around kind of game), before we even begin to consider him seriously over Sami.



Yes, from a b2b mid, that's one of the things you need



That goal was on Matuidi

A fit and in form Marchisio... Well, that's kinda the point here. Brace yourselves *intense drums* - current Marchisio is far away from a fit and in form Marchisio, if he was atleast physically, he would play much, much more

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That's what I feared for a while now, and he was so great before that injury. It was tearing my heart seeing him play yesterday

I agree with everything you just said. The main thing Ive learned this season is
1. Marchisio cant be considered as a starter anymore
2. Khedira is the best we have at cm when playing with 3
3. Khedira is a good player but we should look to upgrade there and rb to make a big jump next season

 

[Hust]

That goal was on Matuidi

current Marchisio is far away from a fit and in form Marchisio

Matuidi gave the ball away but defensively Khedira was a statue and his reaction was slow motion. The guy skipped right by him. In that instance, Marchisio, for example, would have fouled him before getting the shot off. Claudio is notorious for picking up bookings like that but at least it prevents a clear cut chance and pushes it to a harder to convert FK.

As for everything else, the bolded is the key part and sums up my entire argument. You want to know why Marchisio is far away from a fit and form Marchisio...ready for it...he has nearly 400 mins played this season. He started the preseason well, looked fit and was looking a bit more like himself. That was 5 months ago. Only way to get marchisio fit is to start playing him more. Does that mean a full 90 mins every game, absolutely not. But he barely even gets the nod as a sub anymore. Of the last five matches he came on a sub three times and got 4 mins, 11 mins, 9 mins. Hard to get a midfielder fit on 4 mins

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Pjaca's Injury: March 28th, 2016
Marchisio's Injury: April 17th, 2016


2.5 weeks apart both with the same injury.

 

[frick]

He has muscular fatigue and missed the training today.
http://www.football-italia.net/115112/marchisio-sturaro-miss-training

 

[zizinho]

Matuidi gave the ball away but defensively Khedira was a statue and his reaction was slow motion. The guy skipped right by him. In that instance, Marchisio, for example, would have fouled him before getting the shot off. Claudio is notorious for picking up bookings like that but at least it prevents a clear cut chance and pushes it to a harder to convert FK.

As for everything else, the bolded is the key part and sums up my entire argument. You want to know why Marchisio is far away from a fit and form Marchisio...ready for it...he has nearly 400 mins played this season. He started the preseason well, looked fit and was looking a bit more like himself. That was 5 months ago. Only way to get marchisio fit is to start playing him more. Does that mean a full 90 mins every game, absolutely not. But he barely even gets the nod as a sub anymore. Of the last five matches he came on a sub three times and got 4 mins, 11 mins, 9 mins. Hard to get a midfielder fit on 4 mins

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Pjaca's Injury: March 28th, 2016
Marchisio's Injury: April 17th, 2016


2.5 weeks apart both with the same injury.

Matuidis pass was too far away from Khedira, he had to chase after the ball and there is no way he could have reacted fast enough once Caceres got away with it. his shot was also well placed and probably wouldnt have gone in the next 5 times he tried it (we gave away chances like that before this season, vs Napoli and Roma most notably). Khedira, who was running full speed, would have to stop instantly and run the other way, again at full speed, to even come into position to faul Caceres.

you do realize Marchisio was injured for 2 months at the beginning of this season right? and Pjacas injury was in 2017, so a whole year apart. for Marchisio to get fit he needs to work on getting 100% physical condition, not playing games while not being fit. that will only make it worse. playing games is not the solution for every problem

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He has muscular fatigue and missed the training today.
http://www.football-italia.net/115112/marchisio-sturaro-miss-training

surprise @Hustini

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I agree with everything you just said. The main thing Ive learned this season is
1. Marchisio cant be considered as a starter anymore
2. Khedira is the best we have at cm when playing with 3
3. Khedira is a good player but we should look to upgrade there and rb to make a big jump next season

pretty much sums it up. might be a good idea to keep Khedira past this season even, if Can is the only midfield addition we will get

 

[Bianconero81]

Sad times. Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, and a fully fit Marchisio to what we have now. A huge drop in terms of quality and intensity. Only Pjanic is world class in our current midfield setup.

 

[zizinho]

Sad times. Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, and a fully fit Marchisio to what we have now. A huge drop in terms of quality and intensity. Only Pjanic is world class in our current midfield setup.

Beppe also realizes this, thats why he is working 24/7 to land us Emre Can.

 

[Bianconero81]

Beppe also realizes this, thats why he is working 24/7 to land us Emre Can.

Emre Can Hardly an upgrade. He'll just be another decent squad/rotation option. I'm pinning my hopes on Bentancur if Can is the only reinforcement we get in midfield.

 

[zizinho]

Emre Can Hardly an upgrade. He'll just be another decent squad/rotation option. I'm pinning my hopes on Bentancur if Can is the only reinforcement we get in midfield.

Barella and Mandragora

 

[Bianconero81]

Barella and Mandragora

Ok. Now, you're pushing it. That Barella kid has potential though, and if Mandragora means we sell The Accident to some EPL scrubs for 20+ million, sign me up.

 

[edgardavids2608]

Sad times. Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, and a fully fit Marchisio to what we have now. A huge drop in terms of quality and intensity. Only Pjanic is world class in our current midfield setup.

I thihnk we but 1 really good midfielder and our defense is set. SMS added to Pjanic in the middle and Matuidi and Khedira behind them. Thats great quality with some versatility and some great experience behind them. Also having Marchisio that can play the Pjanic role when needed and Bentancur. Might be good to eith have Bentancur loaned or Khedira might be done after the world cup. Its dropped off a lot but I dont think we are far off having a great midfield again

 

[DAiDEViL]

I agree with everything you just said. The main thing Ive learned this season is
1. Marchisio cant be considered as a starter anymore
2. Khedira is the best we have at cm when playing with 3
3. Khedira is a good player but we should look to upgrade there and rb to make a big jump next season

And after getting a Khedira upgrade you still keep him as 4th CM.

Buying a great player AND Keeping the good player, that's how you improve your squad.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Sad times. Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, and a fully fit Marchisio to what we have now. A huge drop in terms of quality and intensity. Only Pjanic is world class in our current midfield setup.

Pjanic and Matuidi are fantastic midfielders. Pjanic is the passer/distributor and Matuidi is the workhorse. Khedira a very good player and is currently our best b2b midfielder, but he is probably going to slow down soon due to his physical injuries sustained over the years, so we obviously need a big upgrade there. We are one quality CM away from having a complete midfield. I don’t see all this doom and gloom.