Claudio Marchisio (73 Viewers)

[sgjuveboy]

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[JuveJay]

Already making an excuse for him. Nice. People will at least be prepared for inevitable.

Just a prediction, we'll see.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Already making an excuse for him. Nice. People will at least be prepared for inevitable.

According to you, the inevitable means Marchisio benched, so no need to worry.

 

[Vlad]

According to you, the inevitable means Marchisio benched, so no need to worry.

And now you're being "objective" again.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

No, I'm just repeating what you have said about a dozen times already.

My apologies if I'm not allowed to do that.

 

[Vlad]

No, I'm just repeating what you have said about a dozen times already.

My apologies if I'm not allowed to do that.

Can't see a point in repeating what I allegedly said "dozen" times already. Best to wait and see.

 

[Salvo]

Performances, but also goals. When Marchisio was scoring goals no one said anything. Fans rate by things that are easy on the eye or easy to distinguish, put down in stats columns. When was the last time you even saw Marchisio in a goalscoring position?

When Marchisio was playing left midfield he was sacrificed for the team and completely outcast as an individual performer. To an extent he still does often play a second fiddle role to a maestro like Pirlo and a warrior like Vidal. Their skills are easy to see, more defined. Add in Pirlo taking free kicks, Vidal taking penalties. Pogba comes in and has that youthful verve, big lad with funny hair who likes a trick or two and hits a cannon shot.

What does Marchisio do in comparison? Mostly the unattractive stuff, getting the ball and linking to the strikers and his winger. Now and again he'll score a goal, get an assist or do a bit of skill to make someone look silly. That is then a 'good game' for him, when really it's just a regular game with a bit of garnish.

Still, it's been much simpler than that in the last couple of months, he just hasn't played very well and doesn't look in great shape. It is a shame he has to play the Confederations Cup, because after that he'll have a couple of weeks off then back getting hammered by Conte in training. This is why I don't think you'll see his best tempo and form until a month or so into the season.

 

[TheLaz]

Performances, but also goals. When Marchisio was scoring goals no one said anything. Fans rate by things that are easy on the eye or easy to distinguish, put down in stats columns. When was the last time you even saw Marchisio in a goalscoring position?

When Marchisio was playing left midfield he was sacrificed for the team and completely outcast as an individual performer. To an extent he still does often play a second fiddle role to a maestro like Pirlo and a warrior like Vidal. Their skills are easy to see, more defined. Add in Pirlo taking free kicks, Vidal taking penalties. Pogba comes in and has that youthful verve, big lad with funny hair who likes a trick or two and hits a cannon shot.

What does Marchisio do in comparison? Mostly the unattractive stuff, getting the ball and linking to the strikers and his winger. Now and again he'll score a goal, get an assist or do a bit of skill to make someone look silly. That is then a 'good game' for him, when really it's just a regular game with a bit of garnish.

Still, it's been much simpler than that in the last couple of months, he just hasn't played very well and doesn't look in great shape. It is a shame he has to play the Confederations Cup, because after that he'll have a couple of weeks off then back getting hammered by Conte in training. This is why I don't think you'll see his best tempo and form until a month or so into the season.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

More like a sub par few months. But hey, objectivity is usually not welcomed in this thread.

And why does it bother you when Marchisio says something stupid (or uncalled for), but was it never an issue when Melo, for example, ran his mouth?

claiming objectivity while maintaining marchisio didnt have a subpar season, rich. Melo ran his mouth because he was chased out of town when he had the better season than marchisio, so he kinda has an excuse. Like i said the main reason marchisio is liked is becuase of his juventino status, so of course he is held at a higher standard when it comes to running his mouth.

 

[JuveJay]

What did Marchisio say?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

he wants to go tango dancing

 

[Red]

Performances, but also goals. When Marchisio was scoring goals no one said anything. Fans rate by things that are easy on the eye or easy to distinguish, put down in stats columns. When was the last time you even saw Marchisio in a goalscoring position?

When Marchisio was playing left midfield he was sacrificed for the team and completely outcast as an individual performer. To an extent he still does often play a second fiddle role to a maestro like Pirlo and a warrior like Vidal. Their skills are easy to see, more defined. Add in Pirlo taking free kicks, Vidal taking penalties. Pogba comes in and has that youthful verve, big lad with funny hair who likes a trick or two and hits a cannon shot.

What does Marchisio do in comparison? Mostly the unattractive stuff, getting the ball and linking to the strikers and his winger. Now and again he'll score a goal, get an assist or do a bit of skill to make someone look silly. That is then a 'good game' for him, when really it's just a regular game with a bit of garnish.

Still, it's been much simpler than that in the last couple of months, he just hasn't played very well and doesn't look in great shape. It is a shame he has to play the Confederations Cup, because after that he'll have a couple of weeks off then back getting hammered by Conte in training. This is why I don't think you'll see his best tempo and form until a month or so into the season.

Marchisio's role has also been different compared to 11/12.

That season it was mostly Marchisio tasked with getting forward, with Vidal playing the more disciplined role to maintain the balance and shape of the team. Last season the roles were reversed and Vidal was generally given the more attacking role.

So, given that people thought he was a ghost when he was playing the more eye-catching role in 11/12, it's hardly suprisingly they aren't noticing his contribution isn't going to be as obvious.

Anyway, Marchisio was okay last season.

Not as good as he was in 11/12.

Not half as bad as some round here would have you believe.

 

[Vlad]

he wants to go tango dancing

And maybe he doesn't appreciate Marotta or Agnelli's dancing skills? Ever think about that? Ha?

 

[Cronios]

How much cash do you think Marotta could get for Marchisio?

 

[Klin]

How much cash do you think Marotta could get for Marchisio?

€35M. He'd settle for €16M.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Marchisio's role has also been different compared to 11/12.

That season it was mostly Marchisio tasked with getting forward, with Vidal playing the more disciplined role to maintain the balance and shape of the team. Last season the roles were reversed and Vidal was generally given the more attacking role.

So, given that people thought he was a ghost when he was playing the more eye-catching role in 11/12, it's hardly suprisingly they aren't noticing his contribution isn't going to be as obvious.

Anyway, Marchisio was okay last season.

Not as good as he was in 11/12.

Not half as bad as some round here would have you believe.

so if you were marchisio and set yourself some personal goals at the beginning of the season you would be ok with your season?

 

[JuveJay]

€35M. He'd settle for €16M.

I just read your post about Jovetic coming to Juve being his destiny

 

[Klin]

I just read your post about Jovetic coming to Juve being his destiny

Really?

 

[Red]

so if you were marchisio and set yourself some personal goals at the beginning of the season you would be ok with your season?

I don't know what personal goals he could have set.

Goals and assists were going to be harder to come by because of getting forward less, so it could only come down to whether he felt he played well or not over the season.