[CL] Tottenham Hotspur 1-2 JUVENTUS [March 7th 2018] (18 Viewers)

[pavluska]

We could've buried them in first leg, but instead, surrendered the ball and dropped deep after 15 or 20 mins and let them gain in confidence and do what they do best: play with a high line and press.

Holding a high line and taking space away, they won the ball right back every time, and when the long ball found Higuain behind their line, instead of going clear, tubs had to drag the ball back every single time.

With the Dybala-Higuain-DC trident, I guess our defensive shape will be 442. I prefer Higuain as the deepest striker defensively with Dybala on the defenders' shoulders. Wouldn't mind Alex Sandro in the tridente either.

Lack of intensity/fatigue has been an issue. Play hard and get a two-goal lead by 70th minute and then hang on. Avoid OT at all cost. I'm getting flashbacks of Bayern.

 

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The post addressed the opinion that we're too defensive, whether paying attn to defense and being solid is right or wrong, and the goldfish-like memory and knee-jerk reactions of fans like yourself.

You guys have been arguing we're always very defensive under Allegri. Sass game was just a month ago. When you score 7, you can't be overly defensive or poor whether it's Sass or not. One recent example. There are 3.5 years of data.

Add reading comprehension to the list.

We've scored the least UCL goals out of the teams remaining, in fact, we're 18th on the list, so two teams that were knocked out and have played a game less still have more goals. That's all you need to know.

 

[Post Ironic]

We've scored the least UCL goals out of the teams remaining, in fact, we're 18th on the list, so two teams that were knocked out and have played a game less still have more goals. That's all you need to know.

When we faced Barca last season, they had scored 26 goals in 8 games, most in the CL. We had scored 14 goals in 8 games. Far far down the list.

According to your logic Barca should have smashed us with all that goalscoring power... I'm confused, because iirc we smashed them.

 

[pavluska]

We've scored the least UCL goals out of the teams remaining, in fact, we're 18th on the list, so two teams that were knocked out and have played a game less still have more goals. That's all you need to know.

Refer back to my post. It states why we had to work on becoming more solid after leaking goals left and right and losing points at start of the season. Things changed for the better after the Samp game. We took a more defensive approach in the 2nd Barca game and last GS game. It served us well. We were higher on the list after first 4 games I'm sure, but we also weren't doing well. But in the 2nd Barca game, we picked up a valuable point.

Focus on those 30 mins vs Spurs and the more attacking 4231 lineup vs them which I'm sure you liked.

Again, work on your reading comp.

 

[dyl1dyl]

Liverpool, and personally I think we'd got more respect and cautious play from bayern and city and would have preferred drawing them. Spurs reminds me of our first season with Allegri in Europe. Hungry to prove our strength and for success.
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just hope we don't concede first.

Im actually quite scared of Liverpool. Like I feel theyre quite a wild card this season. Id rather they knock out Man City first before we play them. Haha (only team to beat city in the eplthis year)

Unlike what Kane's said in that interview, I think we will see more of the ball this time and they will mainly focus to damage from the wings this time.

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just hope we don't concede first.

I absolutely agree. I think Kane and Pochettino are bluffing. They arent going to go high press, at least not for the whole match. They might try it for the first 10-15 mins but I think after that, they'll definitely sit back and invite us to attack since we have to chase the tie

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

And now from GdS

Allegri going for the 0-1 IMO.

 

[dyl1dyl]

The dream would be Liverpool knocking out City and Barca (Barca beat Bayern in quarters) on the way to the finals, then we knock out Roma in the quarters and Man U in the semis. (Man U beat Real through Mourinho style) Then, we'd finally have a final where we're favourites. (Klopp is pretty bad at finals too) hahahahaha. probabaly like a 1/100 chance of this happening but I can dream

 

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And now from GdS

Allegri going for the 0-1 IMO.

Is GDS on drugs? Or is everyone else? I've been reading everywhere that Mandzukic isn't even in the squad going to Wembley because of his injury....

 

[dyl1dyl]

And now from GdS

Allegri going for the 0-1 IMO.

This is incorrect I believe. Mandzukic isn't even in the squad so he cant be on the left wing. Some rumours are saying the frontline will be (L-R) Costa - Higuain - Dybala

 

[pavluska]

When we faced Barca last season, they had scored 26 goals in 8 games, most in the CL. We had scored 14 goals in 8 games. Far far down the list.

According to your logic Barca should have smashed us with all that goalscoring power... I'm confused, because iirc we smashed them.

Don't you remember, Barca sucked last year.

And in this case, just ignore the argument, the more goals, the better the team.

 

[dyl1dyl]

This game is a huge chance for Dybala to increase his global/european presence. So far, he's only really excelled in 1 UCL tie (last season first leg vs Barcelona) so hope that he makes the difference in this tie. For how much Higuain is criticized, he's already been pretty key/useful in several big matches for us within 1.5 seasons.

 

[B3N]

Im actually quite scared of Liverpool. Like I feel theyre quite a wild card this season. Id rather they knock out Man City first before we play them. Haha (only team to beat city in the eplthis year)




I absolutely agree. I think Kane and Pochettino are bluffing. They arent going to go high press, at least not for the whole match. They might try it for the first 10-15 mins but I think after that, they'll definitely sit back and invite us to attack since we have to chase the tie

Liverpool would be scary in an end to end match and if you try to match their pace. They are not as adaptive as a side like Spurs, in a way very one dimensional with below average defensive line and goal keeper. They would struggle against teams that dictate the flow of the game, obviously not us this season but what would have benefited us as opposed to against spurs is they don't have a focal point like Kane and physicality of their midfield.

 

[dyl1dyl]

Liverpool would be scary in an end to end match and if you try to match their pace. They are not as adaptive as a side like Spurs, in a way very one dimensional with below average defensive line and goal keeper. They would struggle against teams that dictate the flow of the game, obviously not us this season but what would have benefited us as opposed to against spurs is they don't have a focal point like Kane and physicality of their midfield.

Yup, I agree. If we somehow get to the Finals again this season, my dream opponent is Liverpool I think. Has historical significance, is an EPL club and is also a club I feel we can excel against gameplay wise

 

[Monty]

Hold your horses , kids

 

[dyl1dyl]

Hold your horses , kids

Haha, yeah. i know im living in dreams. I have to say though that the pain of the 2 recent losses has really subsided a lot. It's still my lifelong dream to see us win a UCL title (since I started supporting Juve in the 2003/03 season) but until we do, I still really appreciate what we've achieved in the last 6 seasons. As a Tennis fan, i see some similarities with Andy Murray's career and Ive come to appreciate that even though it hurts like anything, being a UCL runner up (like a grand slam runner up) is still a huge achievement in itself

 

[Adrian]

433 with costa and dybala supporting higgy wiuld be great. So much more to offer without mandzukic there. If only marchisio started a head of khedira.

 

[SpursBoy]

OK guys match day is here, Ground is sold out so with restrictions I guess a crowd of about 86k including 4k officially from Italy but recon there be a few more Italian London Based fans there as well.

Fairly sure Spurs will line up

Lloris
Trippier, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Davies
Dier, Dembele
Eriksen, Alli, Son
Kane

Think it will be a tight first half maybe 1-1, but as you chase the game we will hit you on counter attack

I'm going 3-1 to Spurs

Good luck tonight for all those going it should be a great atmosphere

 

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[Monty]

FT

 

[pitbull]

Words of the mister: “Dybala is fully fit, as seen against Lazio, but tomorrow is such an important game that they all want to be a part of it, even if not at 100 per cent.

There is a good chance that Douglas Costa will play. They could all play together, they might not. I’ve only got those three, so some of them have to play! Maybe I’ll remove a midfielder!

It won’t so much be a tactical issue as a technical one, of passing it cleanly and keeping the ball. We have to stay in the game, make few errors and take our chances when they present themselves. We have to keep possession better and it won’t be easy. We had more counter-attacking players when we were against Bayern Munich in 2016, but the characteristics of the players are different.”

to me it seems like he again might be thinking about 4231 like

Buffon
Licht-Benatia-Chiellini-Asa
Matuidi-Pjanic
Costa-Dybala-Sandro
Higgy

He said the exact same thing before the first game (about keeping possession being key) and I don't feel like he's changed his mind. Given how low Costa and Sandro will be asked to play this is almost a 4411