[CL] Olympiacos 1-0 JUVENTUS (October 22nd 2014) (5 Viewers)

[Mike-e-y]

Bayern were playing everything but a 4-3-3.

4231 if we're being pedantic, which was the formation I was talking about originally not the 433. You brought up 433 so I just threw it back at you from a different perspective
Either way those formations are relatively similar, romas formation can be seen as either with pjanic more advanced

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

No.

dont bet on it

 

[Alex-444]

I missed out on 112$ because of THIS bullshit

drink beer

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

3-5-2 is shit but the issue is we lack the players we're missing, the players a 3-5-2 doesn't have

I.E actual wingers, and a link between MF and attack

Until we

Short term) integrate Perayra and Coman into the team

Long term) Take our hands out of our asses and buy some fucking WINGERS

we're stuck in a loop of pointing out the same thing time and time again.

 

[Hust]

Has the shit storm cleared yet or is everyone at each other's throats still for having a different opinion?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

3-5-2 is shit but the issue is we lack the players we're missing, the players a 3-5-2 doesn't have

I.E actual wingers, and a link between MF and attack

Until we

Short term) integrate Perayra and Coman into the team

Long term) Take our hands out of our asses and buy some fucking WINGERS

we're stuck in a loop of pointing out the same thing time and time again.

though that is a need if we want to competitive for the cup, we have enough quality and had more than enough opportunities to beat olympiakos today, i think we got us above all a mental block in europe and these results only make it worse

 

[Hængebøffer]

dont bet on it

But how is that an insult? It was how I felt at the moment.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

though that is a need if we want to competitive for the cup, we have enough quality and had more than enough opportunities to beat olympiakos today, i think we got us above all a mental block in europe and these results only make it worse

It is a mental block, but I don't understand how players, coaches, whole management staff come and go, yet the complex is still there.

 

[alexjuventino]

How is it a mental block? Look at our approaches, in serie a we take the game to the opposition, in europe we pussy out and sit back and "slow down possession".

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Yeah the mental block is a major issue, however it doesn't help when even without a mental block we're still essentially using defenders in attacking roles, and central midfielders in even more advanced roles to compensate for what we do not have.

Our lack of pace, creativity etc etc (we've all heard it 1000x) is compounded by our inability to do even the simplest of tasks when we're under real pressure.

 

[Bjerknes]

though that is a need if we want to competitive for the cup, we have enough quality and had more than enough opportunities to beat olympiakos today, i think we got us above all a mental block in europe and these results only make it worse

The way to get out of a mental block is to change the team around and try something new. First and foremost, we can change the formation or change around the personnel. Doing the same thing over and over again only compounds the block, even if the tactical approach isn't the reason behind the failures (although I think they are). Hell, remove the armband from Buffon for all I care, some times the more change to inspire a team is the only way that wakes them up.

So either way, change the fuucking formation.

 

[HAZEM]

It is a mental block, but I don't understand how players, coaches, whole management staff come and go, yet the complex is still there.

it comes from the management the upper hand.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Mental block in terms of seeing a teammate 6 feet away and wildly missing him with a pass, or trying to switch the play only to balloon it 20 feet over the wide mans head.

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The way to get out of a mental block is to change the team around and try something new. First and foremost, we can change the formation or change around the personnel. Doing the same thing over and over again only compounds the block, even if the tactical approach isn't the reason behind the failures (although I think they are). Hell, remove the armband from Buffon for all I care, some times the more change to inspire a team is the only way that wakes them up.

So either way, change the fuucking formation.

Don't use scary words like 'change' and 'new' when Italian football is concerned, you'll give the experienced old boys a heart attack with your wild, evil ideas.

 

[Linebreak]

No 5: Mr Ogbonna is jogging

I commented on this during the match. He always jogs back and shows zero urgency when he's beaten.

 

[Mike-e-y]

3-5-2 is $#@! but the issue is we lack the players we're missing, the players a 3-5-2 doesn't have

I.E actual wingers, and a link between MF and attack

Until we

Short term) integrate Perayra and Coman into the team

Long term) Take our hands out of our asses and buy some $#@!ing WINGERS

we're stuck in a loop of pointing out the same thing time and time again.

Sad but true.

The only way we could do something a little different would be;

Back 4

Pogba - marchisio/Vidal later

Pereyra - tevez - giovinco

Morata


Hate to say it but we could do with pepe as at least he gives us something different. It's also times like this that giaccherini would have been useful

 

[GordoDeCentral]

It is a mental block, but I don't understand how players, coaches, whole management staff come and go, yet the complex is still there.

i think it starts with our traditional prioritizing of the league first, secondly most of our players didnt play in europe till their mid 20s so they are not used to it, notice how morata was one of the players who played the most comfortable tonight

 

[Rufio]

OMG wtf are we doing in CL again :haddadjunior:

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Shocking looking at our team sheet, only to see the only player who didn't look fazed in his general play was an inexperienced kid we got off of Madrid. Obviously he should've scored but he was one who wasn't making a complete mockery of the sport by failing to do shit that fucking P.E teachers in primary schools would expect students to do.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

The way to get out of a mental block is to change the team around and try something new. First and foremost, we can change the formation or change around the personnel. Doing the same thing over and over again only compounds the block, even if the tactical approach isn't the reason behind the failures (although I think they are). Hell, remove the armband from Buffon for all I care, some times the more change to inspire a team is the only way that wakes them up.

So either way, change the fuucking formation.

i think thats what conte was intending on doing, but that needs a sizable budget

 

[Bjerknes]

i think thats what conte was intending on doing, but that needs a sizable budget

No it doesn't, we could have done it yesterday. We have plenty of players who can play several positions.