[CL] Malmoan 0-2 JUVENTUS (November 26th, 2014) (17 Viewers)

MOM

  • Marchisio

  • Chiellini

  • Llorente

  • Pogba

  • Licht

  • Vidal


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napoleonic

Senior Member
Sep 7, 2010
4,129
#42
In regards to our chances to qualify, the match in Malmo is perhaps even less important than the match in Madrid between Atletico and Olympiacos. If Atletico don't beat the Greeks, then in the last round we will have to beat an Atletico that will face elimination in case of a defeat.
correction, only if atletico somehow lose to oly next match.
 

napoleonic

Senior Member
Sep 7, 2010
4,129
#45
if we win this and Atletico wins against Olympiacos too then we even have a chance for the 1st place. we would have to beat Atletico on h2h which means 2:0 or 3:1 or higher on the last matchday in Turin

we would have a chance for the 1st place in case of a draw in the match in Madrid too but it would me much harder to beat Atletico then since they would face relegation in case of a loss. if Olympiacos beats Atletico we must beat them too in the last matchday otherwise we face elimination
Wrong, there is 6 pts point diff already
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,964
#47
correction, only if atletico somehow lose to oly next match.
We need Atletico to beat Olympiacos in Madrid. We need it badly. Of course, there are chances Juve to qualify, or win the group, even if Atletico don't beat Oly, but those chances are slimmer. Here's what happens if we beat Malmo and Atletico DON'T beat Olympiacos.

1. Juve beat Malmo, Atletico and Olympiacos draw; Standings: Atletico 10, Juventus 9, Olympiacos 7, Malmo 3
- In the last round Olympiacos will beat Malmo in Greece, which means that we will have to beat Atletico. If we play a draw with Atletico, we'll be eliminated on H2H with Oly.

2. Juve beat Malmo, Olympiacos beats Atletico; Standings: Olympiacos 9, Juventus 9, Atletico 9, Malmo 3
- Again, we'll have to beat Atletico in the last round, because a draw will give advantage to Atletico on h2h. Olympiacos will beat a Malmo that plays for nothing.

As you can see, if Atletico don't beat Olympiacos, that will mean that we will have to beat Atletico in the last round. But if Atletico beat Olympiacos, then all we need to qualify is a draw against Atletico in Madrid.

P.S: And even more, if we beat Malmo and Atletico don't beat Oly, in the last round both us and Atletico will be fighting for our lives. Atletico will be eliminated with a defeat, while we'll be eliminated with a draw or a defeat. We don't want to find ourselves in such situation, do we?
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,964
#49
exactly. but we play Atletico in Turin, not Madrid :D
Slight advantage for us, but it's still a must win against a team that made an art out of defending. They will need a draw to qualify, and they will defend in numbers, fully capable of hitting us on a counter. They didn't let us a shot on goal even when they could allow a defeat in round 2. It won't be any easier in round 6 if a defeat will get them eliminated.

We have a bigger chance of beating them by 2 if they are already qualified, then to beat them at all when they face elimination.

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I also need to add that an Atletico win against Olympiacos keeps us fully in play even if we screw up in Sweden and play a draw with Malmo. In that case Atletico will already win the group with 12 pts, while we'll be 5 points behind Atletico and a point ahead of Olympiacos. In the last round we might easily end up beating a relaxed Atletico and qualify.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
#50
Slight advantage for us, but it's still a must win against a team that made an art out of defending. They will need a draw to qualify, and they will defend in numbers, fully capable of hitting us on a counter. They didn't let us a shot on goal even when they could allow a defeat in round 2. It won't be any easier in round 6 if a defeat will get them eliminated.

We have a bigger chance of beating them by 2 if they are already qualified, then to beat them at all when they face elimination.

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I also need to add that an Atletico win against Olympiacos keeps us fully in play even if we screw up in Sweden and play a draw with Malmo. In that case Atletico will already win the group with 12 pts, while we'll be 5 points behind Atletico and a point ahead of Olympiacos. In the last round we might easily end up beating a relaxed Atletico and qualify.
agreed.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
#53
I want to repeat that we will have a tough match against Atletico in Turin.Malmo is piece of cake .Watch and see.
 

Amer

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2005
11,315
#54
In regards to our chances to qualify, the match in Malmo is perhaps even less important than the match in Madrid between Atletico and Olympiacos. If Atletico don't beat the Greeks, then in the last round we will have to beat an Atletico that will face elimination in case of a defeat.
That's because of Vidal's missed penalty. Had he scored that, we would have better chances.

Right now I would say the chances for qualification are:

Atletico 45%
Olympiacos 30%
Juve 25 %
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,848
#59
If Atl. Madrid beats Olympiakos and we beat Malmo, I think we can advance. Before our match they will have it sealed and we can have a nice biscotto at home.

Maybe not a full biscotto with that maniac Simeone but if we can hold possession and almost steal a 0-0 in Madrid I think we can do it at home. They will sit back surely with no motivation to press. We'll have no motivation to come forward and get caught out.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
#60
IMO Atleti will beat Olympiakos quite easily. It's the Juve - Malmo part I'd be worried about if I were you. For us it's important to break them down as early as possible. Hopefully we use our 4321 with more or less the same players we played against Parma and Lazio. We should be fine if so.
 

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