yes i only hope Montero won't replace Zebina otherwise we are ****ed up.
I think Pessotto or Birindelli should be use there!
I think Pessotto or Birindelli should be use there!
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Good game yesterday - a good result for Liverpool considering we're a team in transition (with a load of injuries to key players). You did understimate us at the beginning, but we ran out of steam and you took control in the second half. Disappointed to concede a goal the way we did, but you deserved one for your second half performance.
Remember though, that although Del Piero was definitely onside for the disallowed goal, Carson heard the whistle and didn't even attempt to save it - it wouldn't have definitely been a goal.
All in all a fair result - I think we have a chance against you in Turin if we can play at a similar pace (without tiring this time), but I don't think this is our year...we've done well simply getting as far as we have done.
Expect to see more of Liverpool in the next few years though. We are THE sleeping giant of club football, and Benitez is slowly waking us up. Under him we will once again become the top team in Europe
Remember though, that although Del Piero was definitely onside for the disallowed goal, Carson heard the whistle and didn't even attempt to save it - it wouldn't have definitely been a goal.
All in all a fair result - I think we have a chance against you in Turin if we can play at a similar pace (without tiring this time), but I don't think this is our year...we've done well simply getting as far as we have done.
Expect to see more of Liverpool in the next few years though. We are THE sleeping giant of club football, and Benitez is slowly waking us up. Under him we will once again become the top team in Europe
Just wanted to point out something:
Del Piero scored a goal that was perfectly and clearly ONSIDE. The goal cost us quite a bit. With the goal we wouldn't have lost the match, we might have ended it 2-2. That was not a good chance that was called offside.. That was a GOAL.
The reason I brought this point out again is, if that was Pool (or anyother team) who lost a goal because of a bad call against us you would see teh press saying the ref once again favour Juve or another controversial win for Juve..
Even more there is another question mark around a scene where Alex is pushed in the box.
Plus few bad calls when a pool player pulled Zambrotta's shirt in front of the ref till he fell down (near our goal) then the pool player didn't even coninue because he thought that the ref will call that a foul. But the ref didn't and pool player ran and took the ball, thank god Fabio was there to cover. And few other on the note.
I am not saying the ref favoured Liverpool. Not at all. Those are human errors. Human error is part of the game. Juventus doesn't make a bid deal about it, but others... well just check out the press and see if we get a controversial foul how will the world go upside down.
Del Piero just earns my respect everyday even more. Just look at him, his goal was disallowed while the team was 2 goals behind and didn't even make a scene about it. He was pushed in the box and didn't even talk about it.. THEN when Capello subbed him he ran like a rocket to make the change as fast as possible. THAT IS A CAPTAIN.
Del Piero scored a goal that was perfectly and clearly ONSIDE. The goal cost us quite a bit. With the goal we wouldn't have lost the match, we might have ended it 2-2. That was not a good chance that was called offside.. That was a GOAL.
The reason I brought this point out again is, if that was Pool (or anyother team) who lost a goal because of a bad call against us you would see teh press saying the ref once again favour Juve or another controversial win for Juve..
Even more there is another question mark around a scene where Alex is pushed in the box.
Plus few bad calls when a pool player pulled Zambrotta's shirt in front of the ref till he fell down (near our goal) then the pool player didn't even coninue because he thought that the ref will call that a foul. But the ref didn't and pool player ran and took the ball, thank god Fabio was there to cover. And few other on the note.
I am not saying the ref favoured Liverpool. Not at all. Those are human errors. Human error is part of the game. Juventus doesn't make a bid deal about it, but others... well just check out the press and see if we get a controversial foul how will the world go upside down.
Del Piero just earns my respect everyday even more. Just look at him, his goal was disallowed while the team was 2 goals behind and didn't even make a scene about it. He was pushed in the box and didn't even talk about it.. THEN when Capello subbed him he ran like a rocket to make the change as fast as possible. THAT IS A CAPTAIN.
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Zlatan I did not really understand your formation, you moved Zambrotta to his old position, you put Camoranesi as play maker instead of Nedved and what is Appiah doing there?
Zlatan I did not really understand your formation, you moved Zambrotta to his old position, you put Camoranesi as play maker instead of Nedved and what is Appiah doing there?
Yes. TBH, I think Camoranesi is currently in better form and has the better characteristics for a natural playmaker. He did great playing as a playmaker (in a way) against Real and I believe he would do the same against Liverpool- With his technique and dribbling and without having to worry about covering the flank I think he would excell. That would mean Zambrotta would have to play on the right.
TBH, that is exactly what I was looking to stop. They did kill us on the wings in the first match, because Zambrotta and Zebina were caught out on counter atacks which left Thuram and Cannavaro exposed. Also, most of their biggest threaths came from the right-ish side. Not really out wide, but in the middle right of our half where Baros would get through balls and run at Thuram and Cannavaro, especially in the second half. Thats what Appiah's there for. He would cover that part of the field, preventing fast counter attacks by Baros on the semi-right side. He's faster than both Thuram and Cannavaro, not to mention Pessotto, Montero and Ferrara. They did play out wide in ther first half an hour, but when we gained control over the match all they did was try counters on the right side through Garcia and Baros, very little action wen on through the left. IMO if we take control of the game from the first minute, like with Real, this would stop their counter attacks. That would be Appiah's only job, to stay with the man, not get out runned and out paced and prevent Baros from running into space. Now, IMO they will concentrate on counter attacks. We got hurt on the wings in the first mazch because they went at Cannavaro and Thuram who were unprotected, Zebina and Zambrotta usually got caught out while going forward. I assume they will play one man up front like in the first match (Le Tallec wasnt really playing in attack as much as in midfield), which would mean we'd have a 3 to 1 situation in defense. Any one of those players could move to the flank to stop a counter knowing that there are two more to cover the Liverpool striker. Also, they could be wider apart which would mean they could run out and cover the wing faster and more effectivly.
A risk yes. A deathwish, no.
@Zlatan: You say that Liverpool were most dangerous on their right (our left) and you intend to stop them by giving Nedved more defensive duties than necessary and playing Appiah in a three man defence? That's ignorance imo. Nedved is bound to do a good set of attacking, Olivera too, and you have them operating in the area that Liverpool penetrated in the first leg. When they get caught out it's going to be Garcia and Baros against Appiah and Thuram. The former is the clear winner in my view.
I'd play something like this:
Buffon
Birindelli Thuram Cannavaro Zambrotta
Camoranesi Emerson Nedved Pessotto
Ibrahimovic Del Piero
Zambrotta and Pessotto can interchange and cover for each other but Zamboy would predominantly play in the more defensive position as he adds some necessary pace to our backline. Nedved wouldn't play as a conventional central midfielder but as an attacking midfielder. Pessotto supplies solidity and can offer extra width that Blasi can't. If we need another goal bring on Trez or Zala for Pesso. Your formation is very risky and I don't think we need to take massive risks from the word go as 1-0 is enough to see us through.
I'd play something like this:
Buffon
Birindelli Thuram Cannavaro Zambrotta
Camoranesi Emerson Nedved Pessotto
Ibrahimovic Del Piero
Zambrotta and Pessotto can interchange and cover for each other but Zamboy would predominantly play in the more defensive position as he adds some necessary pace to our backline. Nedved wouldn't play as a conventional central midfielder but as an attacking midfielder. Pessotto supplies solidity and can offer extra width that Blasi can't. If we need another goal bring on Trez or Zala for Pesso. Your formation is very risky and I don't think we need to take massive risks from the word go as 1-0 is enough to see us through.
