[CL] Juventus vs Arsenal (5 Viewers)

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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Eire said:
nesta is only 29 hardly an aging vetran while cannavaro may be on wrong side of 30 and undoubtedly henry is one of the fastest players in the world he never actually caused canna any problems due to his speed.

john terry is no olympic sprinter but still one of the best defenders in the world.

while toure has been great this year he was fairly poor last year can he repeat his performances year in year out.

by the way imo cannavaro played quite well at highbury some great tackles and interventions and was so close to a wonder block from nowhere on henry's second goal
yep and just to add to that he picked up a knock before that which kept him from being as alert as he would normally be.
 

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Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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bradd_21 said:
To the Azzurri 7 bloke –

You, my friend, are the epitome of idiocy. Toure has only had 4-5 good games ??? The fact that you can even make such a ridiculously idiotic claim is evidence of your actual severe lack of knowledge about the game. Take it from a neutral perspective buddy, that Toure is the most accomplished centre back in world football. His sheer athleticism alone is enough to strike fear into most strikers while his speed, strength, tackling, and awareness are second to none. I also think that with a little research you will find that he is clearly the most consistent centre back there is right now. Both Nesta and Cannavaro have an insane amount of weaknesses that can easily be exploited by a striker with pace and intelligence to do so. The Italian league’s lack of pace makes aging veterans such as themselves still look good enough – while you saw what happened to Cannavaro when he came up against top young players with quick movement last week, didn’t you ?

The fact of the matter is that the whole world witnessed how despite your supposed superiority over them, you are nowhere near as good as arsenal. They managed to outclass you in every position of the pitch, making you look like a bunch of over-hyped, over-paid, and over-rated amateurs – especially when u consider the fact that Arsenal had over SIX first team players missing as well as a hell of a lot of squad players out with injury, and were basically fielding a side packed with what are primarily back up fringe players. Not to mention the fact that this is the worst season arsenal have had under wenger for almost a decade, and that they’re actually going through a ‘transitional’ season !! Surely the fact that you have now been comfortable outplayed, outclassed, and very comfortably beaten by both liverpool AND a weakened young arsenal, neither of which are the best teams in their domestic leagues – tells you a little something about the difference between the English and Italian leagues, no ?

Surely the fact that players like eboue, toure, senderos and flamini have managed to easily come out on top against the likes of robinho, ronaldo, raul, zidane, beckham, cicinho, carlos, trezeguet, ibrahamovich, vieira, emerson, mutu, and zambrotta also tells you a little something about who is actually ‘good’ and who is ‘not’, no ? Surely the fact that a bunch of teenage arsenal fringe players have beaten a supposed ‘world class’ outfit tells you a little something about who is actually ‘world class’ and who is not, no ?

Having said that – you sound like a typical ‘crowd follower’ who reckons the only world class players are the ones that are hyped up by the media – thus you probably think the likes of beckham, owen, lampard, ronaldo, etc. are all world class while the likes of Eboue, toure, hleb, etc. are all ‘average’ since nobody ever talks about them. You can keep thinking that, and teams like arsenal/pool will keep beating you – hopefully after a few years your thick head will manage to see a pattern.

What a moron !

Sorry to announce you that I don't have time reading your pathetic shitty post.

Move on.
 

Eire

Senior Member
Mar 1, 2004
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PhRoZeN said:
yep and just to add to that he picked up a knock before that which kept him from being as alert as he would normally be.
dont think it was in any way his fault for the goal emerson had henry then let him run free while buffon really sold himself to fabregas dummy shot.
 

northbank

Junior Member
Mar 22, 2006
232
Eire said:
nesta is only 29 hardly an aging vetran while cannavaro may be on wrong side of 30 and undoubtedly henry is one of the fastest players in the world he never actually caused canna any problems due to his speed.

john terry is no olympic sprinter but still one of the best defenders in the world.

while toure has been great this year he was fairly poor last year can he repeat his performances year in year out.

by the way imo cannavaro played quite well at highbury some great tackles and interventions and was so close to a wonder block from nowhere on henry's second goal
John Terry is over-rated, but I've said enough about that already.

We don't know if Toure will be great every year, but the likelihood is that he will, he was great in his first, good in his second and this year he has been fantastic. He's quickly growing into the complete defender.

Cannavaro was good at Highbury (IMO).
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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yeah canavaro has been a great credit to our CL matches. I remember the liverpool match in which he was so close in scoring. As for the emerson mistake yeah, you would think that emerson should cover canavaro, simply he didnt it was his fault but thats that.
 

adelove

The Very Special One
Sep 29, 2003
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I HOPE ALL THIS GUNNER FANS RUNNING OF AT THE MOUTH ARE DIGGING A HOLE SOMEPLACE WITH NO ADDRESS TO GO HIDE IN?
LET'S SEE HOW MANY OF U ARE WILLING TO PLAY IN OUR YARD AFTER WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!
UNLIKE U WHO ARE LOSING UR MINDS OVER HENRY'S FUTURE,WE ARE MADE OF STERNER STUFF.


"A lot depends on our ability to score a goal early.We know what we have to do;they are strong,BUT WE ARE JUVE."
-Lillian Thuram
 

northbank

Junior Member
Mar 22, 2006
232
Emerson seems to make that mistake quite often; I don't watch Juve every week but when I do, he seems to not track the runs all of the way quite often.

I think that it's a malaise in the Juve team at the moment, it's quite disjointed. Attackers attack, midfielders stay in the midfield and defenders defend. They don't seem to operate as a unit.
 

sco_tino

Junior Member
Jan 30, 2004
99
sateeh said:
first of all u cant talk to a fellow juventino like that, and noneed for insults as u cant illustrate ur point without using them.

about toure...rating him as the best in the world is a bit of an overstatement dont u think ? putting alongside greats like cannavaro and nesta is just beyond realitty. He is having a great season i will give him that, but he isnt world class yet. I watch the EPL pretty regularly and i've seen him foolishly push ahead and leaving his position open and the counters cuzed soo many probelms for arsenal.
those big names ur talking about had their presence felt in every squad they have been in since they were 18 years old. Played against great attackers and stopped them dead in their tracks.
Someone here said that eboue or toure didnt give ROBINHO any space...u gotta be kidding me, Robinho is complete flop, and cant be considered as a good player at all.

My question to u is this ... will toure be the same after 5,6 yrs, when he is over 30? will he be the same ? Cannvaro is 32 and he still strikes fear in most attackers in the world.
And we will see toure's quality in the WC as well

about juve-arsenal, u did beat fair and square in the 1st leg...and made our big names look soo small.But that doesnt matter as there is still a 2nd leg left.. then we will.
P.s even if we lose we would still be a great club and still have the Serie A for this season, if u lose in the CL now or later ? wat do u have to fall on :D a champions league spot is it , or a uefa cup spot
:agree: :agree: :agree:
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
northbank said:
Emerson seems to make that mistake quite often; I don't watch Juve every week but when I do, he seems to not track the runs all of the way quite often.

I think that it's a malaise in the Juve team at the moment, it's quite disjointed. Attackers attack, midfielders stay in the midfield and defenders defend. They don't seem to operate as a unit.
I dont think his as consistent as he should be, he has some good matches and some awful matches. In my eyes he aint the type of player who would suit playing against english opposition. He was outclassed against liverpools midfield and now arsenal's, he just doesnt seem to boss it the way he should be. Nedveds right we may need a shrink.
 

Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
4,031
Forza Gunners said:
if you watch the premiership then you will realise the sheer amount of handballs and fouls that John Terry gets away with is just disgraceful
seriosuly though u arsenal fans seem to really underate jt, he is a good defender, altough he sint quick, he amkes up for that with his class positioning and reactions
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
Il Re said:
seriosuly though u arsenal fans seem to really underate jt, he is a good defender, altough he sint quick, he amkes up for that with his class positioning and reactions
I think the arsenal fans are only underrating him because they seem to be london rivals and also because they are promting kolos chances of the worlds best. For all those english based arsenal fans criticising him now, will certainly be raving a different tune in the world cup.
 

northbank

Junior Member
Mar 22, 2006
232
Il Re said:
seriosuly though u arsenal fans seem to really underate jt, he is a good defender, altough he sint quick, he amkes up for that with his class positioning and reactions
I guess you would have to watch him every week.

There are many weak areas in his game. He's a "kick-it, head-it" defender, so he needs help in many situations present in the modern game; he'll never be a 'complete' defender.

I don't rate him as world class but he is one of the best of his type.
 

northbank

Junior Member
Mar 22, 2006
232
PhRoZeN said:
I think the arsenal fans are only underrating him because they seem to be london rivals and also because they are promting kolos chances of the worlds best. For all those english based arsenal fans criticising him now, will certainly be raving a different tune in the world cup.
Not me, I'm hoping that he doesn't start.
 

Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
4,031
northbank said:
I guess you would have to watch him every week.

There are many weak areas in his game. He's a "kick-it, head-it" defender, so he needs help in many situations present in the modern game; he'll never be a 'complete' defender. 'complete' defender.

I don't rate him as world class but he is one of the best of his type.
very true
 

Hambon

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Apr 22, 2005
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Arsenal duo to make Turin trip

Monday, 3 April 2006

Arsenal FC have confirmed that midfielder Cesc Fabregas and full-back Emmanuel Eboué "will be travelling" to Turin for Wednesday's UEFA Champions League quarter-final second leg, but did not say whether the duo would be fit to face Juventus.

'Recovered sufficiently'
Both players were injured during Saturday's 5-0 English Premiership defeat of Aston Villa FC, with Eboué picking up a groin injury and Fabregas taking a blow to his foot. Having initially been rated by manager Arsène Wenger at 60-40 to play in Italy, the influential pair "have recovered sufficiently to take their place in the travelling party". Arsenal won the first leg 2-0 at Highbury.


Uefa.com
 

bradd_21

New Member
Mar 22, 2006
17
Azzurri7 said:
Sorry to announce you that I don't have time reading your pathetic shitty post.

Move on.
Heh - Thanks mate, you just proved the whole point of my post right there.

'Dont have time to read it' yet brands it 'shitty' - like i said, you are the epitome of idiocy.

Ohhh the irony !!
 

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