[CL] Juventus vs Arsenal (5 Viewers)

Starfleets

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Mar 17, 2006
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PhRoZeN said:
sticking to the eboue topic this is what wenger said about him.

Wenger:"Eboue did his groin because he played like former Brazil great Garrincha on the right side and didn't stop going forward."

Well as he outclassed the likes of a poor mutu his now compared to the likes of Garrincha.. Amazing
Erm, he said that after the game against Villa when he got injured and then commented about his performances this season. Nothing to do with the poor mutu
 

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Mar 11, 2006
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Arsenal.com:

Cesc Fabregas and Emmanuel Eboue will be travelling to Juventus for this week’s Champions League Quarter-Final second leg.

Both players were forced off early during Saturday’s 5-0 victory over Aston Villa. Fabregas left in the 16th minute with a foot problem, Eboue followed in the 67th minute with a groin injury.

Both were rated 60:40 against by Arsène Wenger immediately after the game but both have recovered sufficiently to take their place in the travelling party to Turin for Wednesday’s tie.

Arsenal.com will publish the full squad around lunchtime on Tuesday.
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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Goonersauras said:
He plays similarly, you fucking pleb.

That's what he's saying.. He didn't say:

"Eboue played very well, he's as good as Garrincha or better"

You stupid twat :disagree:

Also, he doid own Mutu.

He also owned Robinho.

And then owned Zidane in the 2nd leg.

So he's not doing too bad for a 21 year old, twat.
:lol: nice abuse, good to see its caught the attention of the arsenal fans who inspire for such posts. Yes he outclassed a poor mutu, robinho and zidane, but that certainly doesnt mean his great or going to become great.. long way to go. Zidane is outclassed by almost every la liga defender on a daily basis. Whilst robinho isnt as consistent as many say and his a lightweight so yes he can be shrugged off instantaneously. Also the post was referring to his recent performance ( last weeks) and he wasnt exactly asked about how his been performing througout the season.
 
Mar 11, 2006
37
mnementh said:
1993/94 EUROPEAN CUP
27/04/94 Milan Monaco 3-0 Coach: Wenger

Capello beating Wenger 3-0 on Italian soil. History will repeat itself. :agree:
PARALELL'S WITH LIVERPOOL LAST SEASON.

- BEHIND OUR LOCAL RIVALS
- SIGNED A CUP TIED PLAYER FROM MONACO.
- PLAY IN RED.
- THEIR STAR PLAYER OWEN WENT TO REAL TO WIN CL, VIERA WENT TO YOU FOR SAME PURPOSE - we will see soon wether he made the right choise.
- WE were doing well in the FA Cup in 2005, and they are too.
- They were to play a team in blue for the semi finals, this could happen.
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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Starfleets said:
Erm, he said that after the game against Villa when he got injured and then commented about his performances this season. Nothing to do with the poor mutu
Yes I already commented on that but mutu certainly played a part in his morale and your cant doubt that.
 

northbank

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Mar 22, 2006
232
PhRoZeN said:
Yes I already commented on that but mutu certainly played a part in his morale and your cant doubt that.
It's funny how if any Arsenal player did well, it was because a juventus player was poor. Strange for that to happen in 10 positions on the same night.
 

natedizzle89

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Jan 11, 2006
99
mnementh said:
Del Piero vs Reggina.

Sorry he actually scored within the 18 yard box but he was close to the edge and that camo one against parma was right but was on sept. 24 do you know any more recent thanx.

P.S. i'm sick of Arsenal fans head swelling, yes they beat us and they havn't seen the light of a semi final ever but i want ANY TEAM and hopefully us, to SHUT THEM UP!!!!! IF we don't progress i want to see lyon take the cup, peace!
 

PhRoZeN

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northbank said:
It's funny how if any Arsenal player did well, it was because a juventus player was poor. Strange for that to happen in 10 positions on the same night.
I dont think I had a go at every arsenal player, it was eboue and toure thats all. Toure was only used simply because one of your arsenal buddies starts calling him the worlds best. There are some arsenal players who I admire henry being one of them and yes he is world class.
 

PhRoZeN

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natedizzle89 said:
Sorry he actually scored within the 18 yard box but he was close to the edge and that camo one against parma was right but was on sept. 24 do you know any more recent thanx.

P.S. i'm sick of Arsenal fans head swelling, yes they beat us and they havn't seen the light of a semi final ever but i want ANY TEAM and hopefully us, to SHUT THEM UP!!!!! IF we don't progress i want to see lyon take the cup, peace!
:agree:
 

bradd_21

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Mar 22, 2006
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To the Azzurri 7 bloke –

You, my friend, are the epitome of idiocy. Toure has only had 4-5 good games ??? The fact that you can even make such a ridiculously idiotic claim is evidence of your actual severe lack of knowledge about the game. Take it from a neutral perspective buddy, that Toure is the most accomplished centre back in world football. His sheer athleticism alone is enough to strike fear into most strikers while his speed, strength, tackling, and awareness are second to none. I also think that with a little research you will find that he is clearly the most consistent centre back there is right now. Both Nesta and Cannavaro have an insane amount of weaknesses that can easily be exploited by a striker with pace and intelligence to do so. The Italian league’s lack of pace makes aging veterans such as themselves still look good enough – while you saw what happened to Cannavaro when he came up against top young players with quick movement last week, didn’t you ?

The fact of the matter is that the whole world witnessed how despite your supposed superiority over them, you are nowhere near as good as arsenal. They managed to outclass you in every position of the pitch, making you look like a bunch of over-hyped, over-paid, and over-rated amateurs – especially when u consider the fact that Arsenal had over SIX first team players missing as well as a hell of a lot of squad players out with injury, and were basically fielding a side packed with what are primarily back up fringe players. Not to mention the fact that this is the worst season arsenal have had under wenger for almost a decade, and that they’re actually going through a 'transitional’ season !! Surely the fact that you have now been comfortable outplayed, outclassed, and very comfortably beaten by both liverpool AND a weakened young arsenal, neither of which are the best teams in their domestic leagues – tells you a little something about the difference between the English and Italian leagues, no ?

Surely the fact that players like eboue, toure, senderos and flamini have managed to easily come out on top against the likes of robinho, ronaldo, raul, zidane, beckham, cicinho, carlos, trezeguet, ibrahamovich, vieira, emerson, mutu, and zambrotta also tells you a little something about who is actually 'good’ and who is 'not’, no ? Surely the fact that a bunch of teenage arsenal fringe players have beaten a supposed 'world class’ outfit tells you a little something about who is actually 'world class’ and who is not, no ?

Having said that – you sound like a typical 'crowd follower’ who reckons the only world class players are the ones that are hyped up by the media – thus you probably think the likes of beckham, owen, lampard, ronaldo, etc. are all world class while the likes of Eboue, toure, hleb, etc. are all 'average’ since nobody ever talks about them. You can keep thinking that, and teams like arsenal/pool will keep beating you – hopefully after a few years your thick head will manage to see a pattern.

What a moron !
 

Vinman

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Alex gunning for Arsenal Monday 3 April, 2006

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Alessandro Del Piero will face a fitness test on Tuesday in a bid to be available for at least a substitute role against Arsenal.

The forward has been out of action for the last 10 days with a thigh muscle problem, but passed a series of medical tests this morning.

The Italian subsequently took part in training with the ball and successfully completed a number of sprint exercises.

Although there seems to be no chance that boss Fabio Capello could risk him from the start, the captain may see his name included as one of the reserves.

Del Piero, who is hoping to take part at the 2006 World Cup Finals, will undergo further tests tomorrow before the coaching staff make a decision on his use or not.

Juventus could certainly do with his assistance given that they have to overturn a 2-0 first leg loss to reach the Champions League semi-finals.

But despite the task ahead of them, Alex is in optimistic mood. “Arsenal shouldn’t start singing too soon because there will be a different tune playing on Wednesday,” he said.

Capello will probably start the midweek game with a strike force of Zlatan Ibrahimovic and David Trezeguet.

Former Chelsea player Adrian Mutu is expected to play on the right hand side of midfield in the absence of the suspended Mauro Camoranesi.

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CapeLOL will change NOTHING !!!!!:cry:



We will still play a crappy 4-4-2, with Neddy AND Mutu playing out of position, and DP MAY get into the game by the 70th minute, and by that time it will be waaaay..... too late !!!!:cry: :ferocious :ferocious
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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bradd_21 said:
To the Azzurri 7 bloke –

You, my friend, are the epitome of idiocy. Toure has only had 4-5 good games ??? The fact that you can even make such a ridiculously idiotic claim is evidence of your actual severe lack of knowledge about the game. Take it from a neutral perspective buddy, that Toure is the most accomplished centre back in world football. His sheer athleticism alone is enough to strike fear into most strikers while his speed, strength, tackling, and awareness are second to none. I also think that with a little research you will find that he is clearly the most consistent centre back there is right now. Both Nesta and Cannavaro have an insane amount of weaknesses that can easily be exploited by a striker with pace and intelligence to do so. The Italian league’s lack of pace makes aging veterans such as themselves still look good enough – while you saw what happened to Cannavaro when he came up against top young players with quick movement last week, didn’t you ?
Jeez I had a similar conversation with your freidn van persie earliar regarding how consistent nesta really is. To say he isnt is such a biased view and understandable if its coming from the EPL. Canavaro, yes he was slow isnt the same, but if you look at what his achieved is understandably the worlds best. at the moment he may not be the best but even on his bad day he puts a notably decent performance. Against Arsenal, yes he wasnt at his best but he was arguably our best defender out there and at times if you notice back in the 60th minute he even covered a very poor zebine who was outpaced by henry. Yet if you look carefully that was a certain instance where yes, canavaro, actually suprised henry with his pace. On another day its understandable that henry is faster but as I said whats brilliant about canavaro his he compliments his defence whenever needed and yes he is consistent prior to the arsenal game. We have some very fast pacy players in serie A too notably shevchenko, mancini being a few.

bradd_21 said:
The fact of the matter is that the whole world witnessed how despite your supposed superiority over them, you are nowhere near as good as arsenal. They managed to outclass you in every position of the pitch, making you look like a bunch of over-hyped, over-paid, and over-rated amateurs – especially when u consider the fact that Arsenal had over SIX first team players missing as well as a hell of a lot of squad players out with injury, and were basically fielding a side packed with what are primarily back up fringe players. Not to mention the fact that this is the worst season arsenal have had under wenger for almost a decade, and that they’re actually going through a 'transitional’ season !! Surely the fact that you have now been comfortable outplayed, outclassed, and very comfortably beaten by both liverpool AND a weakened young arsenal, neither of which are the best teams in their domestic leagues – tells you a little something about the difference between the English and Italian leagues, no ? .
Yes they outclassed us, is that all? :faq1: We have had better matches in europe look at our group stage that should tell something, and the same to last year prior to the liverpool match we were not too bad.

bradd_21 said:
Surely the fact that players like eboue, toure, senderos and flamini have managed to easily come out on top against the likes of robinho, ronaldo, raul, zidane, beckham, cicinho, carlos, trezeguet, ibrahamovich, vieira, emerson, mutu, and zambrotta also tells you a little something about who is actually 'good’ and who is 'not’, no ? Surely the fact that a bunch of teenage arsenal fringe players have beaten a supposed 'world class’ outfit tells you a little something about who is actually 'world class’ and who is not, no ?
I dont think zambro was actually as poor as it may seem he did well and was arguably one of our few players who actually made some of your defenders shed a sweat. Whilst the rest?, real can lose against a team like albacete for god's sake that doesnt mean anything. Real were poor not only on the day but also the games before the CL second round. They showed some of the worst football by a spanish side and were lucky to even get to the second round. As for us, yes we played a very poor match, no excuses. Well done. :sick:
 

northbank

Junior Member
Mar 22, 2006
232
PhRoZeN said:
Real were poor not only on the day but also the games before the CL. They showed some of the worset football by a spanish side and were lucky to even get to the second round. As for us, yes we played a very poor match, no excuses. Well done. :sick:
No, Real were the form team in Spain and I didn't hear the end of how we were going to get pasted. Except for one cup loss they had won 8 games (?) in a row and were going to murder us by all accounts. Then, when we beat them, we didn't hear the end of how they are a spent force etc.

Cannavaro and Nesta are far from being rubbish; especially nesta.
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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bradd_21 said:
To the Azzurri 7 bloke –

You, my friend, are the epitome of idiocy. Toure has only had 4-5 good games ??? The fact that you can even make such a ridiculously idiotic claim is evidence of your actual severe lack of knowledge about the game. Take it from a neutral perspective buddy, that Toure is the most accomplished centre back in world football. His sheer athleticism alone is enough to strike fear into most strikers while his speed, strength, tackling, and awareness are second to none. I also think that with a little research you will find that he is clearly the most consistent centre back there is right now. Both Nesta and Cannavaro have an insane amount of weaknesses that can easily be exploited by a striker with pace and intelligence to do so. The Italian league’s lack of pace makes aging veterans such as themselves still look good enough – while you saw what happened to Cannavaro when he came up against top young players with quick movement last week, didn’t you ?

The fact of the matter is that the whole world witnessed how despite your supposed superiority over them, you are nowhere near as good as arsenal. They managed to outclass you in every position of the pitch, making you look like a bunch of over-hyped, over-paid, and over-rated amateurs – especially when u consider the fact that Arsenal had over SIX first team players missing as well as a hell of a lot of squad players out with injury, and were basically fielding a side packed with what are primarily back up fringe players. Not to mention the fact that this is the worst season arsenal have had under wenger for almost a decade, and that they’re actually going through a ‘transitional’ season !! Surely the fact that you have now been comfortable outplayed, outclassed, and very comfortably beaten by both liverpool AND a weakened young arsenal, neither of which are the best teams in their domestic leagues – tells you a little something about the difference between the English and Italian leagues, no ?

Surely the fact that players like eboue, toure, senderos and flamini have managed to easily come out on top against the likes of robinho, ronaldo, raul, zidane, beckham, cicinho, carlos, trezeguet, ibrahamovich, vieira, emerson, mutu, and zambrotta also tells you a little something about who is actually ‘good’ and who is ‘not’, no ? Surely the fact that a bunch of teenage arsenal fringe players have beaten a supposed ‘world class’ outfit tells you a little something about who is actually ‘world class’ and who is not, no ?

Having said that – you sound like a typical ‘crowd follower’ who reckons the only world class players are the ones that are hyped up by the media – thus you probably think the likes of beckham, owen, lampard, ronaldo, etc. are all world class while the likes of Eboue, toure, hleb, etc. are all ‘average’ since nobody ever talks about them. You can keep thinking that, and teams like arsenal/pool will keep beating you – hopefully after a few years your thick head will manage to see a pattern.

What a moron !
first of all u cant talk to a fellow juventino like that, and noneed for insults as u cant illustrate ur point without using them.

about toure...rating him as the best in the world is a bit of an overstatement dont u think ? putting alongside greats like cannavaro and nesta is just beyond realitty. He is having a great season i will give him that, but he isnt world class yet. I watch the EPL pretty regularly and i've seen him foolishly push ahead and leaving his position open and the counters cuzed soo many probelms for arsenal.
those big names ur talking about had their presence felt in every squad they have been in since they were 18 years old. Played against great attackers and stopped them dead in their tracks.
Someone here said that eboue or toure didnt give ROBINHO any space...u gotta be kidding me, Robinho is complete flop, and cant be considered as a good player at all.

My question to u is this ... will toure be the same after 5,6 yrs, when he is over 30? will he be the same ? Cannvaro is 32 and he still strikes fear in most attackers in the world.
And we will see toure's quality in the WC as well

about juve-arsenal, u did beat fair and square in the 1st leg...and made our big names look soo small.But that doesnt matter as there is still a 2nd leg left.. then we will.
P.s even if we lose we would still be a great club and still have the Serie A for this season, if u lose in the CL now or later ? wat do u have to fall on :D a champions league spot is it , or a uefa cup spot
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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northbank said:
No, Real were the form team in Spain and I didn't hear the end of how we were going to get pasted. Except for one cup loss they had won 8 games (?) in a row and were going to murder us by all accounts. Then, when we beat them, we didn't hear the end of how they are a spent force etc.

Cannavaro and Nesta are far from being rubbish; especially nesta.
Okay they got the results, but real being real they spend more time playing fancy football and when they do and get a victory, that is exactly when they are in form. They had problems within their squad before the arsenal match noone can deny that it was only the CL that they were hoping to do well in but I think league performances started to get in their way. Nevertheless they are defensively very poor and yes that cup loss was there heaviest defeat for a long time, not the best time to prepare for an arsenal match.
 

Eire

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Mar 1, 2004
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nesta is only 29 hardly an aging vetran while cannavaro may be on wrong side of 30 and undoubtedly henry is one of the fastest players in the world he never actually caused canna any problems due to his speed.

john terry is no olympic sprinter but still one of the best defenders in the world.

while toure has been great this year he was fairly poor last year can he repeat his performances year in year out.

by the way imo cannavaro played quite well at highbury some great tackles and interventions and was so close to a wonder block from nowhere on henry's second goal
 

sco_tino

Junior Member
Jan 30, 2004
99
Goonersauras said:
He plays similarly, you fucking pleb.

That's what he's saying.. He didn't say:

"Eboue played very well, he's as good as Garrincha or better"

You stupid twat :disagree:

Also, he doid own Mutu.

He also owned Robinho.

And then owned Zidane in the 2nd leg.

So he's not doing too bad for a 21 year old, twat.
What should we expect. :tdown:

Spoken like a true ARSEnal fan, as arrogant and abusive as those I know here. Why don't you just bugger off and go to one of your own forums if you're not going to be civil in here.

And then mods I believe this kind of behaviour does at least merit a warning if not a ban.
 

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