yeah, carlos goal wasvalid cos it didn't interfere with play....but the ref should have given us the corner when di vaio's kick hit salgado's leg before it went out. The game might have turned to our favour.
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well, say if it was just one player, it would have been a harsh offside, but to have 4 players in offside positions you are just asking for the flag to be put up (and it was!). Whats the point of defenders pushing out to catch a guy offside if they do that to perfection and yet still the goal stands?
Overall i think that was a brilliant Juve performance....the best football i've seen them play for a long time and i think most of the play came from Zambrotta and Thuram they were amazing and so was Buffon. Nedved played bad and Lippi was right to take him off because was wasn't playing good and was only one yellow from a suspention. Delpiero was very poor im expecting more from him the next time! Trezuguet was also very good, used his imagination to make some good movments with the ball.
Camoranasi was simply pathetic....all though just last year he was playing in seri B and now for Juve in a CL semi-final.
We proved to Madrid on 1 or 2 occasions that we too can pull off some amazing football, on some occasions you could say we might of been lucky but watta bought the Roberto C goal!!!!!
with Davids, Tachi and montero back a full Deli ALPI and only 1 point from Scuddetto i strongly belive we will be in the final and maybe go on and win it!
Forza Juve!!!
Camoranasi was simply pathetic....all though just last year he was playing in seri B and now for Juve in a CL semi-final.
We proved to Madrid on 1 or 2 occasions that we too can pull off some amazing football, on some occasions you could say we might of been lucky but watta bought the Roberto C goal!!!!!
with Davids, Tachi and montero back a full Deli ALPI and only 1 point from Scuddetto i strongly belive we will be in the final and maybe go on and win it!
Forza Juve!!!
well , we had a good result against Real Madrid regarding scoring an away goal which will be very vital , & with the possibilty of Ronaldo & Raul won't playing we have a great chance to go thru to the final as we need only 1-0 to overcome the spanish side. So , a win against Perugia is very importent for the mentality of our players before the importent match against Madrid , cause wraping the scudetto before 2 weeks is vital , cause the players will enter the pitch on wednesday boosted by winning the 27th scudetto , & also we must'nt underastimate Perugia cause we have bad memories against them in such a crucial match like the one that will be played on Saturday.
To all of you guys that said Del Piero was poor: I definetely beg to differ. To me DP moved well off and on the ball, and he didn't give away the ball near as much as he did against Barca. And for you people that say he missed alot of chances, you must have watched a different game to me, because the only miss chances from Alex that I saw was a glancing header that went just wide (DP is shorter than both Hierro and Helguera so I think he did well to just meet the ball) and a volley from outside the box that would have been difficult for anyone to score. If I was to rate DP's performance out of 10, then I would give him at least a 6.
BTW, our best players IMO were Zambrotta (MOTM), Thuram and Buffon :thumb:
BTW, our best players IMO were Zambrotta (MOTM), Thuram and Buffon :thumb:
To all of you guys that said Del Piero was poor: I definetely beg to differ. To me DP moved well off and on the ball, and he didn't give away the ball near as much as he did against Barca. And for you people that say he missed alot of chances, you must have watched a different game to me, because the only miss chances from Alex that I saw was a glancing header that went just wide (DP is shorter than both Hierro and Helguera so I think he did well to just meet the ball) and a volley from outside the box that would have been difficult for anyone to score. If I was to rate DP's performance out of 10, then I would give him at least a 6.
BTW, our best players IMO were Zambrotta (MOTM), Thuram and Buffon :thumb:
BTW, our best players IMO were Zambrotta (MOTM), Thuram and Buffon :thumb:
I saw a brave juve today...
When the match started, they were flkay, and madrid was with the possetin of the ball. Juve , like always, were giving unpricise passes and loosing balls so easily, in the other hand madrid was doing a good game, complitating the juve defense.
At the beggining of the game, zidane aimed, and then he shooted a wonderfull shot, but buffon was waiting for that, and in a marvelus fliying, he stopped zidane´s attempt. (wow it was so close).
Juve did goos tacles, but a lot of stupid tackles too, and that caused the yellow on iuliano. birindelli did a very hard tackle too.
Well the first goal came when a juve defender (i dont remember who) tried to tackle the ball from morientes, ok he succeded, but unluckily , ronaldo was entering to the buffon´s goal and he finded the ball. He did a good shot and scored, leaving buff hopeless.
After that, the game stayed equal, a juve that was not attacking very well, but doing a good job at the defense.
When the first half was almost ended, delpiero shooted a volley, the ball was deviated in a madrid defender and fell in trezeguet´s foot, leaving casillas in an xtrange white color. A bit lucky too. Then he scored.
In the second half, del boske did a change....ronaldo out, portillo in. I dont know why, but in that moment, juve take the initiative and went to attack. Were more or less 20 minutes of a juve´s assault. Madrid was hopeless against the bianconeri´s assault. Zambrotta, who was very bad at the first time, increased a lot, and in one play, he tricked 3 madrid defenders , then passing to trezeguiet, then to delpiero who missed a good oportunity.
Just an extra comment: The Latin espn comentators are with madrid, but they dont like to recognize that, and in the other hand hates juve. But whenjuve was attacking without mercy they said something that was true....: "This is for all the people who said that juve always plays with catenaccio, look what is happening, they are attacking madrid at bernabeu´s, the people is in silent, and, this prove that juve not rached the semis just by defending, like the other two italian teams."
When juve was near the second, the merengues scored. After a corner, the ball fell in r carlos foot, he aimed, and shooted a powerfull strike leaving buffon without hopes. Here comes the bad thing. When the ball touched the net, instantly, the linesman showed the flag. The referee saw the action, but ignored the linesman judging. 3 Players of real madrid were offside, and if by some circunstances they weren´t, the main referree must have aproved the offside, because the linesman was giving the order. But he simply ignored that.
Now the game was 2-1, and the juve attack ended. After tudor and nedved were out, the game was like the start: madrid with the ball and juve defending, but this time more balanced.
After 3 minutes of injury time, the game ended 2-1 for the merengues.
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Buffon: a good match for him, saving juve for a big loss, and very confident in the crosses.
Iuliano: he did normal, at least without mistakes.
Birindelli: A normal game for him, nothing oput of the ordinary, but like iuliano, did very stupid tackles too.
Ferrara: Good defending, but sadly he will not be in the next game because of a yellow card.
Thuram: Very good game, good at attacking and defending.
Zambrotta:IN the first half was really a mess, losing balls and doing nothing, but he transformed totally in the second half, attacking , defending, and dribbling
Conte: Normal game.
Pessoto: He did a good job after iuliano change.
Tudor: Well he tried his best to stop zidane, but the midfield maestro was unstopable.
Nedved: Not his best game, but he did normal. not so good, not so bad.
delpiero: Well, only the good volley that ended in treze´s foot, nothing more.
trezguet: The goal, and a good pas for delpiero, but both missed a lot of chances.
Camoranesi: He did nothing, and he did a lot of stupid dives, especially the first one. He gaind some fauls, but ended in nothing after all. He was the worst.
Divaio: A normal game for him, he dont have a clerly chance like delpiero and treze, but he tried at last.
IN conclution: Juve showed pride to fight bavery against madrid. We deserved a second goal, and not an offside enemy goal.
The referre was a little with madrid.
But the performance of juve gained the respect of the madrid fans who were seeing thegame with me.
When the match started, they were flkay, and madrid was with the possetin of the ball. Juve , like always, were giving unpricise passes and loosing balls so easily, in the other hand madrid was doing a good game, complitating the juve defense.
At the beggining of the game, zidane aimed, and then he shooted a wonderfull shot, but buffon was waiting for that, and in a marvelus fliying, he stopped zidane´s attempt. (wow it was so close).
Juve did goos tacles, but a lot of stupid tackles too, and that caused the yellow on iuliano. birindelli did a very hard tackle too.
Well the first goal came when a juve defender (i dont remember who) tried to tackle the ball from morientes, ok he succeded, but unluckily , ronaldo was entering to the buffon´s goal and he finded the ball. He did a good shot and scored, leaving buff hopeless.
After that, the game stayed equal, a juve that was not attacking very well, but doing a good job at the defense.
When the first half was almost ended, delpiero shooted a volley, the ball was deviated in a madrid defender and fell in trezeguet´s foot, leaving casillas in an xtrange white color. A bit lucky too. Then he scored.
In the second half, del boske did a change....ronaldo out, portillo in. I dont know why, but in that moment, juve take the initiative and went to attack. Were more or less 20 minutes of a juve´s assault. Madrid was hopeless against the bianconeri´s assault. Zambrotta, who was very bad at the first time, increased a lot, and in one play, he tricked 3 madrid defenders , then passing to trezeguiet, then to delpiero who missed a good oportunity.
Just an extra comment: The Latin espn comentators are with madrid, but they dont like to recognize that, and in the other hand hates juve. But whenjuve was attacking without mercy they said something that was true....: "This is for all the people who said that juve always plays with catenaccio, look what is happening, they are attacking madrid at bernabeu´s, the people is in silent, and, this prove that juve not rached the semis just by defending, like the other two italian teams."
When juve was near the second, the merengues scored. After a corner, the ball fell in r carlos foot, he aimed, and shooted a powerfull strike leaving buffon without hopes. Here comes the bad thing. When the ball touched the net, instantly, the linesman showed the flag. The referee saw the action, but ignored the linesman judging. 3 Players of real madrid were offside, and if by some circunstances they weren´t, the main referree must have aproved the offside, because the linesman was giving the order. But he simply ignored that.
Now the game was 2-1, and the juve attack ended. After tudor and nedved were out, the game was like the start: madrid with the ball and juve defending, but this time more balanced.
After 3 minutes of injury time, the game ended 2-1 for the merengues.
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Buffon: a good match for him, saving juve for a big loss, and very confident in the crosses.
Iuliano: he did normal, at least without mistakes.
Birindelli: A normal game for him, nothing oput of the ordinary, but like iuliano, did very stupid tackles too.
Ferrara: Good defending, but sadly he will not be in the next game because of a yellow card.
Thuram: Very good game, good at attacking and defending.
Zambrotta:IN the first half was really a mess, losing balls and doing nothing, but he transformed totally in the second half, attacking , defending, and dribbling
Conte: Normal game.
Pessoto: He did a good job after iuliano change.
Tudor: Well he tried his best to stop zidane, but the midfield maestro was unstopable.
Nedved: Not his best game, but he did normal. not so good, not so bad.
delpiero: Well, only the good volley that ended in treze´s foot, nothing more.
trezguet: The goal, and a good pas for delpiero, but both missed a lot of chances.
Camoranesi: He did nothing, and he did a lot of stupid dives, especially the first one. He gaind some fauls, but ended in nothing after all. He was the worst.
Divaio: A normal game for him, he dont have a clerly chance like delpiero and treze, but he tried at last.
IN conclution: Juve showed pride to fight bavery against madrid. We deserved a second goal, and not an offside enemy goal.
The referre was a little with madrid.
But the performance of juve gained the respect of the madrid fans who were seeing thegame with me.
And about Real's second goal - Yes there was controversy surrounding it as the assistant referee had his flag up and three Madrid players were clearly offside, but the Merengues fans can definetely argue the fact that the players offside were not interferring with play, and I am sure that if one of our players had scored in a similar situation we would have said the same. However, I do believe that the offside rule should be changed. Interferring with play or not, if you're in an offside position then play should be stopped and a free kick should be awared to the opposing team. IMO if the rule was like this there would be no controversy concerning whether or not someone if interferring with play.