I don't wanna see this player at Juve after what i saw tonight, 2nd goal was his fault, apart from that he did awful tonight, not Juve material.
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tomorrow nobody is gowing to say anything about inter that has been robbed from a victory.
everybody is gowing to say how good milan is and that its a shame wat inter fans did.
i would do just the same for smaler things than tonight.
first sheva (thoug i like this player) give materazzi a header , that was red 100%
but no he dident get jack and geus what he scores (it was fantastic goal)
than adriano got injured, martins hit the post , some1 also sayed that inter deserfed a penalty but not awarted (dident see that)
AND THAN THE BIGGES JOKE!
cambiaso makes a goal and its denied just because the goal was againts milan.
if that was juventus
every1 was talking shit about juve payed the reff and shit!
but noooo its againts milan so milan tottaly deserfed it ppffff
but hey FORZA JUVENTUS i hope we win tomorrow and get a ticket vs chelsea in the semi final
i just know if juve play a final its again againts milan
FORZA JUVENTUS lets win this game!
ps moggi pleas buy adriano!
everybody is gowing to say how good milan is and that its a shame wat inter fans did.
i would do just the same for smaler things than tonight.
first sheva (thoug i like this player) give materazzi a header , that was red 100%
but no he dident get jack and geus what he scores (it was fantastic goal)
than adriano got injured, martins hit the post , some1 also sayed that inter deserfed a penalty but not awarted (dident see that)
AND THAN THE BIGGES JOKE!
cambiaso makes a goal and its denied just because the goal was againts milan.
if that was juventus
every1 was talking shit about juve payed the reff and shit!
but noooo its againts milan so milan tottaly deserfed it ppffff
but hey FORZA JUVENTUS i hope we win tomorrow and get a ticket vs chelsea in the semi final
i just know if juve play a final its again againts milan
FORZA JUVENTUS lets win this game!
ps moggi pleas buy adriano!
I initially didn't want to put this up, but considering the foolishmess that happened at the Guiseppe Meazza tonight...
I am really hoping that our people will behave themselves tommorrow. It'll be a crying shame if they don't. I'd rather we go out with our heads held high than in disgrace.
One way or another, it will be a traumatic night for Liverpool on Wednesday when they visit Turin's Stadio Delle Alpi.
Not only is it almost certain that last week's efforts at reconciliation will be thrown back in Merseyside faces, but on the pitch there is a good chance Liverpool's European dream will evaporate.
The visit of Juventus to Anfield last week marked the first meeting of the two sides since 1985's ill-fated European Cup final, when stampeding hooligans and the crumbling Heysel stadium combined to claim the lives of 39 people, most of whom were Italian followers of the club.
In a heartfelt effort to make amends, the city of Liverpool mobilised.
The club, the fans, the Mayor and the Liverpool Echo did much in the days preceding last week's Champions League quarter-final first-leg to express remorse and foster a spirit of contrite respect.
While some travelling supporters applauded the banners of friendship paraded before them in the Anfield Road stand, others turned their backs and made obscene gestures. For them it amounted to far too little, far too late.
The warm welcome the travelling supporters from Turin were afforded last week will not be replicated for the estimated 4,000 Liverpool fans heading to the second-leg in Italy.
In fact, Italian police have warned Liverpool fans against wearing their club colours and urged them to stay in designated areas. Rick Parry, the club's chief executive, has called on fans not to sing, chant, or display flags in areas of the city set aside for them.
Threatening messages have been circulated over the internet and Juve's various Ultras, groups like the Black and White Fighters and the Drughi, have ensured that a tense, acrimonious and menacing atmosphere will pervade.
Of course, that is not to say that every single Juventus fan is an Ultra bent on exacting revenge, but there is a definite risk and the Italian police will be on 'maximum alert'.
'We will hand Liverpool fans a pamphlet welcoming them to the city and asking them to remain together,' said Giuseppe Petronzi, head of the Digos police division, an Italian special force in charge of high security alerts.
'We want them to walk in the main roads of the city and not to frequent areas in the outskirts where it is more difficult to protect them. We want them to avoid using any exaggerated banners and to try not to react to any provocation'.
It doesn't sound too warm and hospitable does it? And by way of a warm-up tear gas was required to break-up pre-match hostilities on Saturday ahead of Juventus' away clash with bitter rivals Fiorentina.
On the pitch things don't get much better. Fabio Cannavaro's away goal at Anfield gave Juventus the belief that they could overturn Liverpool's 2-1 lead. Now, after learning that Steven Gerrard has been ruled out, they will be champing at the bit.
While Gerrard's performance in the first-leg was solid rather than spectacular, his absence will be telling. Such is the presence of the Liverpool captain that the oft-bandied 'talisman' label is for once accurate.
Gerrard manages to drag performances out of team-mates whose skills don't merit them; he leads by example with his energy and fighting spirit, and his goals are an effective 'get out of jail free card'. Who can fill his boots?
Without Dietmar Hamann, Xabi Alonso could be in the starting line-up despite having played just 45 minutes of a reserve game since breaking his ankle on New Years' Day.
There could also be a significant role for either Valdimir Smicer or Igor Biscan. This much-maligned duo are not without their strengths, it's just that they suffer by comparison to Gerrard.
If Liverpool are to have any chance they'll need huge performances from Milan Baros and Sami Hyypia, who should be sent forward for ever free kick and corner.
The only good news for Liverpool is that Djibril Cisse will travel to Turin, and could even feature late-on if the Reds need a goal - Cisse's return just seven months after breaking his leg is remarkable, particularly so as the player feared at one stage his injury so bad that amputation was likely.
So far this season European football has suited Liverpool. The measured style of play favoured by many in the Champions League allows Rafael Benitez's team that rare luxury in football: time on the ball.
In the Premiership his players have been guilty of playing poor passes, being caught in possession and making bad decisions, generally because they are under unrelenting pressure.
In Europe, Liverpool's players have used this extra time on the ball to good effect, and upped the tempo to exploit their opponents' unfamiliarity with unsubtle Premiership power-plays.
A perfect example of this was seen last week when for 60 minutes at Anfield Liverpool won every tackle and every 50-50 ball.
However, in the last half-hour Liverpool were a spent force and just about managed to cling on as Juve's greater patience and skill shone out - and the pattern of that last half-an-hour is likely to be replicated throughout Wednesday's game.
David Trezeguet will be missing due to injury, but the pairing of Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Alessandro del Piero will pose more than enough of a goal threat; then consider players like Nedved and Camoranesi in the middle and Tacchinardi and Cannavaro at the back.
Quite simply, an under-strength Liverpool will struggle to compete against Juventus for 90-minutes.
There is no disgrace in losing in a quarter-final of the Champions League - Manchester United and Arsenal would gladly swap places. The real heartbreak for Liverpool will be if both their efforts at reconciliation and 2-1 first-leg lead come to nothing in Turin's smoke-filled Calderon.
Not only is it almost certain that last week's efforts at reconciliation will be thrown back in Merseyside faces, but on the pitch there is a good chance Liverpool's European dream will evaporate.
The visit of Juventus to Anfield last week marked the first meeting of the two sides since 1985's ill-fated European Cup final, when stampeding hooligans and the crumbling Heysel stadium combined to claim the lives of 39 people, most of whom were Italian followers of the club.
In a heartfelt effort to make amends, the city of Liverpool mobilised.
The club, the fans, the Mayor and the Liverpool Echo did much in the days preceding last week's Champions League quarter-final first-leg to express remorse and foster a spirit of contrite respect.
While some travelling supporters applauded the banners of friendship paraded before them in the Anfield Road stand, others turned their backs and made obscene gestures. For them it amounted to far too little, far too late.
The warm welcome the travelling supporters from Turin were afforded last week will not be replicated for the estimated 4,000 Liverpool fans heading to the second-leg in Italy.
In fact, Italian police have warned Liverpool fans against wearing their club colours and urged them to stay in designated areas. Rick Parry, the club's chief executive, has called on fans not to sing, chant, or display flags in areas of the city set aside for them.
Threatening messages have been circulated over the internet and Juve's various Ultras, groups like the Black and White Fighters and the Drughi, have ensured that a tense, acrimonious and menacing atmosphere will pervade.
Of course, that is not to say that every single Juventus fan is an Ultra bent on exacting revenge, but there is a definite risk and the Italian police will be on 'maximum alert'.
'We will hand Liverpool fans a pamphlet welcoming them to the city and asking them to remain together,' said Giuseppe Petronzi, head of the Digos police division, an Italian special force in charge of high security alerts.
'We want them to walk in the main roads of the city and not to frequent areas in the outskirts where it is more difficult to protect them. We want them to avoid using any exaggerated banners and to try not to react to any provocation'.
It doesn't sound too warm and hospitable does it? And by way of a warm-up tear gas was required to break-up pre-match hostilities on Saturday ahead of Juventus' away clash with bitter rivals Fiorentina.
On the pitch things don't get much better. Fabio Cannavaro's away goal at Anfield gave Juventus the belief that they could overturn Liverpool's 2-1 lead. Now, after learning that Steven Gerrard has been ruled out, they will be champing at the bit.
While Gerrard's performance in the first-leg was solid rather than spectacular, his absence will be telling. Such is the presence of the Liverpool captain that the oft-bandied 'talisman' label is for once accurate.
Gerrard manages to drag performances out of team-mates whose skills don't merit them; he leads by example with his energy and fighting spirit, and his goals are an effective 'get out of jail free card'. Who can fill his boots?
Without Dietmar Hamann, Xabi Alonso could be in the starting line-up despite having played just 45 minutes of a reserve game since breaking his ankle on New Years' Day.
There could also be a significant role for either Valdimir Smicer or Igor Biscan. This much-maligned duo are not without their strengths, it's just that they suffer by comparison to Gerrard.
If Liverpool are to have any chance they'll need huge performances from Milan Baros and Sami Hyypia, who should be sent forward for ever free kick and corner.
The only good news for Liverpool is that Djibril Cisse will travel to Turin, and could even feature late-on if the Reds need a goal - Cisse's return just seven months after breaking his leg is remarkable, particularly so as the player feared at one stage his injury so bad that amputation was likely.
So far this season European football has suited Liverpool. The measured style of play favoured by many in the Champions League allows Rafael Benitez's team that rare luxury in football: time on the ball.
In the Premiership his players have been guilty of playing poor passes, being caught in possession and making bad decisions, generally because they are under unrelenting pressure.
In Europe, Liverpool's players have used this extra time on the ball to good effect, and upped the tempo to exploit their opponents' unfamiliarity with unsubtle Premiership power-plays.
A perfect example of this was seen last week when for 60 minutes at Anfield Liverpool won every tackle and every 50-50 ball.
However, in the last half-hour Liverpool were a spent force and just about managed to cling on as Juve's greater patience and skill shone out - and the pattern of that last half-an-hour is likely to be replicated throughout Wednesday's game.
David Trezeguet will be missing due to injury, but the pairing of Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Alessandro del Piero will pose more than enough of a goal threat; then consider players like Nedved and Camoranesi in the middle and Tacchinardi and Cannavaro at the back.
Quite simply, an under-strength Liverpool will struggle to compete against Juventus for 90-minutes.
There is no disgrace in losing in a quarter-final of the Champions League - Manchester United and Arsenal would gladly swap places. The real heartbreak for Liverpool will be if both their efforts at reconciliation and 2-1 first-leg lead come to nothing in Turin's smoke-filled Calderon.
Gino, this is exactly what I have been saying since day one. Refs do make mistakes, but its always under the microscope when a ref calls bad in favour of Juve.
Liverpool match, Del Piero's goal was a clear onside and it was called off (ofcourse I am not acusing the ref nor Liverpool its a human error). Then what did the media say,,, nothing they barely mentioned it where that goal would have been a a killer for Liverpool 2-2 at anfield. Again last match in Florence, there is abig controversy around Cannavaro's header crossing the line. Some here say that on Rai channel it was very clear it was in. I didn't see a replay for it so I cannot comment but it was fliriting with the line. On goal.com they give a mention to this incidence, but thats about it. Nothing more.
On the other hand, when we were playing against Cheivo and their ball passed the line the whole world went upside down. Talking badly about Juve and how refs are always favouring Juve and that we won many Scudetti by bad calls.
For me I don't care what media says any more nor do I care what other people say. You know why? Because I have eyes and brain. I can see whats right and whats wrong. I can see when the mistakes are favouring Juve and when they are against them.. It happens to all teams.
Sorry I don't want to go off topic here...
Liverpool match, Del Piero's goal was a clear onside and it was called off (ofcourse I am not acusing the ref nor Liverpool its a human error). Then what did the media say,,, nothing they barely mentioned it where that goal would have been a a killer for Liverpool 2-2 at anfield. Again last match in Florence, there is abig controversy around Cannavaro's header crossing the line. Some here say that on Rai channel it was very clear it was in. I didn't see a replay for it so I cannot comment but it was fliriting with the line. On goal.com they give a mention to this incidence, but thats about it. Nothing more.
On the other hand, when we were playing against Cheivo and their ball passed the line the whole world went upside down. Talking badly about Juve and how refs are always favouring Juve and that we won many Scudetti by bad calls.
For me I don't care what media says any more nor do I care what other people say. You know why? Because I have eyes and brain. I can see whats right and whats wrong. I can see when the mistakes are favouring Juve and when they are against them.. It happens to all teams.
Sorry I don't want to go off topic here...
you are 100% right man , i wanted to say that also in this words but i havent the correct english in me to say that, and even if itryed than people like incubo have material to make fun of me.
my friend were also very angry on the reff foul on cannavaro's goal.
i havent seen a thing on tv about the goal and read nothing on the whole internet WHY because we are Juventus if it was Fiorentina than there we WAR again againts us.
and on Goal.com they say --->The flare throwing began after referee Markus Merk CORECTLY disallowed a Cambiasso goal for a Cruz foul on Milan's Brazlian keeper.
it was a 100% CORRECT GOAL!!!!!!!
if that was milan who scored it was a 100% goal in many mans eyes
my friend were also very angry on the reff foul on cannavaro's goal.
i havent seen a thing on tv about the goal and read nothing on the whole internet WHY because we are Juventus if it was Fiorentina than there we WAR again againts us.
and on Goal.com they say --->The flare throwing began after referee Markus Merk CORECTLY disallowed a Cambiasso goal for a Cruz foul on Milan's Brazlian keeper.
it was a 100% CORRECT GOAL!!!!!!!
if that was milan who scored it was a 100% goal in many mans eyes
yeah i also hope that we just win the game and take a place in the semi-final.
and that ower fans are smart and dont do shit and just enjoy the game and cheer for Juventus and i hope that we can make a nice party to celibraid ower victory.
because if there are stupid fans in the delle alpi who think its not enough to just win and make things look like Inter-milan, than we could be banned from europe for a year ore more and nobody wants that!
FORZA JUVE , KEEP IT CLEAN GUYS EN ENJOY THE MATCH
and that ower fans are smart and dont do shit and just enjoy the game and cheer for Juventus and i hope that we can make a nice party to celibraid ower victory.
because if there are stupid fans in the delle alpi who think its not enough to just win and make things look like Inter-milan, than we could be banned from europe for a year ore more and nobody wants that!
FORZA JUVE , KEEP IT CLEAN GUYS EN ENJOY THE MATCH
Well I think we truly should secure the win during the 1st half, let's hit them hard as they did to us a week ago...Problem is I fear bad misses by Ibra or Defensive mistakes by either Biri or Pessotto...
Anyway, 'Pool is much weaker than Real or Bayern so if we concentrate well and if we play our cards right, we should be playing at stamford bridge within a few weeks...
Anyway, 'Pool is much weaker than Real or Bayern so if we concentrate well and if we play our cards right, we should be playing at stamford bridge within a few weeks...
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