[CL] JUVENTUS 2-2 Real Madrid (Nov. 5th 2013) (8 Viewers)

[Völler]

And we don't need Radja you say.

We need to stop playing 5 CM's at the same time. That is solved by buying a LB and a RW. This way we will have 5 CM's for 3 positions (6 if you count Padoin).

 

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[Vlad]

We need to stop playing 5 CM's at the same time. That is solved by buying a LB and a RW. This way we will have 5 CM's for 3 positions (6 if you count Padoin).

That is if Pirlo stays, otherwise we'll only have 4.

 

[Völler]

That is if Pirlo stays, otherwise we'll only have 4.

 

[dann10]

Let madrid wear their home jersey and we'll wear ours with black shorts and black socks ala 2003.

3-1 win.

Vidal pk, Bonucci header and Llorente header. Ronaldo consolation goal.

 

[piotrr]

Someday you'll be as prolific as me in the Champions League Carlitos

Someday you might win a Champions League just like me Fabio

Fuck you and your neck nigga

great can't +rep!

 

[Vlad]

Indeed. It's not like you've overlooked that possibility entirely in your original post.

 

[piotrr]

Let madrid wear their home jersey and we'll wear ours with black shorts and black socks ala 2003.

3-1 win.

Vidal pk, Bonucci header and Llorente header. Ronaldo consolation goal.

3-1
12' Llorente, 43' Tevez, 73' Vidal - Isco 89'
Buffon to save Ronaldo's penalty on 67'.

Vidal to get yellow card on 82' and be suspended for next game.

 

[Vlad]

3-1
12' Llorente, 43' Tevez, 73' Vidal - Isco 89'
Buffon to save Ronaldo's penalty on 67'.

Vidal to get yellow card on 82' and be suspended for next game.

Ah, I see what you did there.

 

[Völler]

Indeed. It's not like you've overlooked that possibility entirely in your original post.

So you want Nainggolan as Pirlo's replacement? If not, then who do you see as Pirlo's replacement?

 

[Vlad]

So you want Nainggolan as Pirlo's replacement? If not, then who do you want?

No one can replace Pirlo in what he does, but we'll definitely need someone to fill that spot in somewhat different way. Yes, Radja I believe is that guy, and strong rumors since the end of August are suggesting that possibility as well.

 

[Yuckerini]

3-1
12' Llorente, 43' Tevez, 73' Vidal - Isco 89'
Buffon to save Ronaldo's penalty on 67'.

Vidal to get yellow card on 82' and be suspended for next game.

 

[Völler]

No one can replace Pirlo in what he does, but we'll definitely need someone to fill that spot in somewhat different way. Yes, Radja I believe is that guy, and strong rumors since the end of August are suggesting that possibility as well.

Ok, then I strongly disagree. Of course nobody (except Verratti, maybe) will be able to replace Pirlo and what he does, but I don't see Nainggolan filling the creative spot. If Pirlo is leaving, which I hope is not the case, then I don't see how Nainggolan should be the solution.

 

[Vlad]

Ok, then I strongly disagree. Of course nobody (except Verratti, maybe) will be able to replace Pirlo and what he does, but I don't see Nainggolan filling the creative spot. If Pirlo is leaving, which I hope is not the case, then I don't see how Nainggolan should be the solution.

He can only be a solution if we move away from regista system and start adopting a new one, where creativity doesn't come from the back. With Pirlo around Conte introduced that 3rd CB to reinforce the central area, as Pirlo can't cover it adequately. We wouldn't be able to play with wingers even if we by any chance had them for the aforementioned reason.

 

[alexjuventino]

Ok, then I strongly disagree. Of course nobody (except Verratti, maybe) will be able to replace Pirlo and what he does, but I don't see Nainggolan filling the creative spot. If Pirlo is leaving, which I hope is not the case, then I don't see how Nainggolan should be the solution.

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He can only be a solution if we move away from regista system and start adopting a new one, where creativity doesn't come from the back. With Pirlo around Conte introduced that 3rd CB to reinforce the central area, as Pirlo can't cover it adequately. We wouldn't be able to play with wingers even if we by any chance had them for aforementioned reason.

With no Pirlo we wont play a 3-5-2 therefore no need for a regista and instead a need for wingers

 

[Völler]

He can only be a solution if we move away from regista system and start adopting a new one, where creativity doesn't come from the back. With Pirlo around Conte introduced that 3rd CB to reinforce the central area, as Pirlo can't cover it adequately. We wouldn't be able to play with wingers even if we by any chance had them for aforementioned reason.

Of course we would be able to play with wingers with Pirlo. We did that in 11/12, and we will do it tomorrow (even if it's a very defensive version of 4-3-3). However, we need the right wingers for the job if we want to use 4-3-3 permanently. However, IF Pirlo leave, I would prefer to see us get a trequartista - or even play with Tevez as a deep lying forward in a 4-2-3-1.

 

[ZoSo]

q-tube to win the match

 

[alexjuventino]

We will need another form of creativity if Pirlo leaves which is obvious. Also Radja shouldnt be a target. We buy 2 wingers and we have 5 cms and we play a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 and we are covered

 

[Vlad]

Of course we would be able to play with wingers with Pirlo. We did that in 11/12, and we will do it tomorrow (even if it's a very defensive version). We would just need the right wingers for the job. However, IF Pirlo leave, I would prefer to see us get a trequartista - or even play with Tevez as a deep lying forward in a 4-2-3-1.

And our defense leaked back then as opponents would have often caught us; remember all those draws before Conte changed system and strengthened defense. With Pirlo we can only play some sort of hybrid like tomorrow, with Marchisio focusing mostly on closing down without too much venturing forward.

And here's another recent example; how did Real score their 1st goal in Madrid? We could've all seen how easily Di Maria run past him.

 

[Völler]

And our defense leaked back then as opponents would have often caught us; remember all those draws before Conte changed system and strengthened defense. With Pirlo we can only play some sort of hybrid like tomorrow, with Marchisio focusing mostly on closing down without too much venturing forward.

Well, you might argue that we are strengthened in defense with the 3-5-2 against certain teams, but at the same time we lack the creativity of the 4-3-3. It would be great to have both as alternatives. If we get a right winger able to work hard defensively (like Pepe, but better), then I don't see why 4-3-3 wouldn't work. Sure, we would want to use 3-5-2 against certain opponents, but a 4-3-3 with Pirlo or 4-2-3-1 with a trequartista is what we should be aiming for in the long run.

 

[dann10]

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