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Cheesio

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I wonder why is that, considering talented players play better when surrounded by other talented players. Barcas players are as talented as it gets so normally Arda should automatically be better there. or maybe its because he doesent suit their playing style. Lets ask the expert on this, @Cheesio what do you say?
Maybe because Arda is a winger, Attacking midfielder and he s been playing as CM. Even tough what i said wzd a counter argument to what u said that playing with superior AM would hinder Dybala and Pogba but nevermind carry on.
 

zizinho

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Maybe because Arda is a winger, Attacking midfielder and he s been playing as CM. Even tough what i said wzd a counter argument to what u said that playing with superior AM would hinder Dybala and Pogba but nevermind carry on.
So should Barca start playing 4231 to take the best out of Arda? What do you think?
 

Cheesio

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So should Barca start playing 4231 to take the best out of Arda? What do you think?
No they have better players than him at the position he plays. They dont neet to adapt to him. You say that our best formation is the 3-5-2 yet our best games in Europe were with 4 at the back. And its Allegri not me who wants an AM and made it clear that someone like Isco is what we need yet you chose to think otherwise.
 

zizinho

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No they have better players than him at the position he plays. They dont neet to adapt to him. You say that our best formation is the 3-5-2 yet our best games in Europe were with 4 at the back. And its Allegri not me who wants an AM and made it clear that someone like Isco is what we need yet you chose to think otherwise.
Ah, so they don't want to change a system that brings the best out of their best players for an inferior player.

Yes, Allegri said a year ago that he likes some players like Isco, Oscar, Berardi and Bernardeschi. I bet he also likes James, Hazard and Sanchez, that doesent mean they are targets for us
 

Cheesio

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Ah, so they don't want to change a system that brings the best out of their best players for an inferior player.

Yes, Allegri said a year ago that he likes some players like Isco, Oscar, Berardi and Bernardeschi. I bet he also likes James, Hazard and Sanchez, that doesent mean they are targets for us
I ve never said that Isco is a target or not, i ve just said that he will elevates the level of this team and its also a known fact that Allegri wants a Fantasista. he said it wide and clear.
 

zizinho

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I ve never said that Isco is a target or not, i ve just said that he will elevates the level of this team and its also a known fact that Allegri wants a Fantasista. he said it wide and clear.
He said it last summer, when we lost Vidal, Pirlo and Tevez and needed to change completely. i haven't heard him mention anything recently. And he mentioned Isco when asked about 10s he likes, among Oscar, Bernardeschi and Berardi. And you think Oscar is crap, yet Allegri clearly stated that he likes him. So why do you bring up Allegri liking Isco as an argument against me then, when you yourself dont agree with him?

About Isco elevating the level of our team, i already quoted you on it, yet instead of quoting back you startes calling me a joke and taking words out of context. I watched around 30-40 games of him since joining Real and the few games for Malaga and Spain, and few things I noticed. 1. He regressed every year, and Zidane finally decided to bench him for the more effective Kroos-Modric-Casemiro midfield, which will prove to be an excellent decision 2. hes very ineffective without the ball so you need to build your team around him and make him your main player to take the best out of him. Some EL level Spanish team would be perfect but they can't afford him so he will either stay and become a rotation option at Real or hes gonna go to England and become the new Cazorla. Maybe if some mid table EPL club is willing to build the team around him he might shine again
 

s4tch

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Spanish teams' record in the knockouts phase of european cups (CL, EL) against foreign clubs over the last 3 seasons:
43 wins in 46 ties. :shifty:

Only exceptions:
Torino 5:4 Bilbao (1/16 EL 2014/15), Krasnodar 3:1 Sociedad (Play-Off EL 2014/15), Juventus 3:2 Real (1/2 CL 2014/15).

serie a babyyyy :tuttosport:
wow, insane stat.
 
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