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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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The biggest issue with it, is that it got killed when it all came togheter.

From 2009 to 2012, bayern never were that imposing all murdering team. They were very good, but in the biggest games, they were underdog.

- in 2010 they should have bowed out to a far superior manchester who they were getting hammered. United got lazy in the second half, and leaked stupid goals. During that year, the far superior barcelona was eliminated by Inter, who without too much issue won the final against bayern
- in 2011 they were on the wrong side of luck and got inter again. Despite it beeing benitez inter, they still won.
- in 2012 they still were a high quality team, but not the very best. Thanks to city underperforming, napoli's horrible luck, and the easyest 16th and QF draw, they got madrid. Madrid who were superior to barcelona that year, and were again killing bayern, who needed some luck to only concede 1 goal, but got a lucky pk to equalist it, with madrid not pushing. In the return, they held out against a madrid crippled by that classico, and faced chelsea who also needed a disgusting amount of luck to get a similar story against barcelona. In the final, the inferior chelsea won
However, it was testament to their future to how this team's organisation was holding its own in Heynckens first year.

Then came those summer transfers that completed the team. they needed time to find their feet, but grew into that impossibly great team

Trashing arsenal at home, and then beeing very sloppy could have costed them. But they went trough and obliterated the italian highly rated champion, absolutely destroyed barcelona, and when they stopped missing, also took out dortmund

After 1.5 years, the bayern side was finished and was a domminating force, not the underdog. This is where it should have went on.



However, they got a coach who was completely different. Who crippled the team wich had just perfected its style, to gave them one they werent best suited for. Yet despite this, Bayern remained the domminant team. Each year under guardiola, they had an aura of wasted potential, yet they remained so very powerfull


If they have gotten a coach who continue'd heynckens phylosophy, they could have remained a wrecking ball. its a greatly missed opportunity. Because of this mistake, they'll never get the recognition as barcelona did, because ever since they got ronaldinho, barcelona's tactical choises have been good to excellent.
 

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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Bayern 2013 is really overrated here.I mean yeah, they are definitely among the best teams I've ever seen, but that's the key: among. They scraped through against Arsenal on away goals, had Guardiola's Bayern or Barca done that we wouldn't hear the end of it.
:agree:

And one member goes on and on and on about how that Bayern would roflstomp any team of the last 15 years. :lol:
 

Maldeika

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Apr 4, 2013
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The biggest issue with it, is that it got killed when it all came togheter.

From 2009 to 2012, bayern never were that imposing all murdering team. They were very good, but in the biggest games, they were underdog.

- in 2010 they should have bowed out to a far superior manchester who they were getting hammered. United got lazy in the second half, and leaked stupid goals. During that year, the far superior barcelona was eliminated by Inter, who without too much issue won the final against bayern
- in 2011 they were on the wrong side of luck and got inter again. Despite it beeing benitez inter, they still won.
- in 2012 they still were a high quality team, but not the very best. Thanks to city underperforming, napoli's horrible luck, and the easyest 16th and QF draw, they got madrid. Madrid who were superior to barcelona that year, and were again killing bayern, who needed some luck to only concede 1 goal, but got a lucky pk to equalist it, with madrid not pushing. In the return, they held out against a madrid crippled by that classico, and faced chelsea who also needed a disgusting amount of luck to get a similar story against barcelona. In the final, the inferior chelsea won
However, it was testament to their future to how this team's organisation was holding its own in Heynckens first year.

Then came those summer transfers that completed the team. they needed time to find their feet, but grew into that impossibly great team

Trashing arsenal at home, and then beeing very sloppy could have costed them. But they went trough and obliterated the italian highly rated champion, absolutely destroyed barcelona, and when they stopped missing, also took out dortmund

After 1.5 years, the bayern side was finished and was a domminating force, not the underdog. This is where it should have went on.



However, they got a coach who was completely different. Who crippled the team wich had just perfected its style, to gave them one they werent best suited for. Yet despite this, Bayern remained the domminant team. Each year under guardiola, they had an aura of wasted potential, yet they remained so very powerfull


If they have gotten a coach who continue'd heynckens phylosophy, they could have remained a wrecking ball. its a greatly missed opportunity. Because of this mistake, they'll never get the recognition as barcelona did, because ever since they got ronaldinho, barcelona's tactical choises have been good to excellent.
Make your own philosophy.

There is another one. The golden rule. Do not sub Müller. And Germany or Bayern never looses when he plays through in semi finals and finals - and about always looses when he does not. Interesting, or?

And some might call it systems - some would call it luck - especially with injuries. Injuries that let you play B-team captain Robben instead of Kroos before the vulcano explodes (there were various eruptions coming out of the Robben camp prior to that Juve match).
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Make your own philosophy.

There is another one. The golden rule. Do not sub Müller. And Germany or Bayern never looses when he plays through in semi finals and finals - and about always looses when he does not. Interesting, or?

And some might call it systems - some would call it luck - especially with injuries. Injuries that let you play B-team captain Robben instead of Kroos before the vulcano explodes (there were various eruptions coming out of the Robben camp prior to that Juve match).
Have no fear. Your nightmare will end soon. When Ancelotti takes over,he doesnt force asshole tactics not suited to your players. He'll get the best out of them, and add players who can improve the general tactics. Wich will be organised and faced paced direct football.

I will like it. I will root for bayern in games when it doesnt affect juventus badly.

Give it time friend.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Make your own philosophy.

There is another one. The golden rule. Do not sub Müller. And Germany or Bayern never looses when he plays through in semi finals and finals - and about always looses when he does not. Interesting, or?

And some might call it systems - some would call it luck - especially with injuries. Injuries that let you play B-team captain Robben instead of Kroos before the vulcano explodes (there were various eruptions coming out of the Robben camp prior to that Juve match).
You're pretty annoying for a 14 year old.
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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No buffon or chiellini in the world 11? This whole ceremony stinks of shit. Marcelo, ramos and Dani Alves wdf?

But Pogba is in it? Could name 5 Juve players more deserving than him. Cleary this goes by popularity.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Conceded least goals in CL, in Serie A... And not 1 of our defensive line or our goalkeeper in FIFPro World XI

:rofl:

Buffon, Bonucci/Barza, and Chiellini all deserve a spot ahead of Neuer, Ramos, Silva. Evra also had a better year than Marcelo.
 

abstract

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Mar 3, 2012
4,940
Marchisio not being in the ''Team of the Year'' is the biggest joke imo.

Was 5x better than Pogba last season.
Just looking at the picks for the defense tells you everything.
 
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