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Hust

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great logic.
I don't think Coman is worth 28m, which makes that 2-year loan with an OPTION pretty retarded
Yep. 8m richer and a youngster with 2 years experience under his belt at another "tier 1" club and ample opportunities. Lastly, he came for free so if he comes back at 22 years old and no better we can make a great profit from him.

Yeah.

Regarded logic isn't it?

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"our saviour"
you truly excel at straw man
Wonderful.

Nothing like back to back insults. :tup:
 

PhRoZeN

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Well, Radja was a ghost today. Barely touched the ball, won pretty much no tackles, his 1 main contribution was injuring Rafinha seconds after he came on, with a lunging tackle from behind that should have been a red card. Atrocious game from him. Same with Dzeko and Salah. Utter garbage.

Manolas, Rudiger, and Florenzi were fantastic though.
Only saw parts of it. But how they contained them is irritating, if only we handled them similarly in May. Actually found myself watching the Valencia game which was entertaining shame there wasn't much of a brawl. Rudiger is some signing what a steal.
 

Hust

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I don't really care how much we are getting and I don't think it is possible to put a value on him. We are getting the majority of his sales in 2 years, no one knows how much we would need that money by then. No one knows how much his value would be by then. The real value of Coman was that he was a squad player and we are now thin in attack.
Don't disagree. Except us being thing in attack.
 

fredrik

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What, when Digne stepped on Messi's heel and fell over backwards? You have to be kidding. :lol:

Aside from this, Barca had at least 7-8 good scoring chances inside the box in the 2nd half. Neymar had a couple, Messi hit the top of the bar, Pique's header off Radja, and so on... Completely dominated.
I think u are overating the chances barca had. Oviously the will create some, but roma defended very well, there is no denying that. It doesnt make sense that digne stepped on his heal, and messi didnt fall, but him, but please provide a pic of that if u can.
 

Ronn

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Yep. 8m richer and a youngster with 2 years experience under his belt at another "tier 1" club and ample opportunities. Lastly, he came for fee so if he comes back at 22 years old we can make a great profit from him.

Yeah.

Regarded logic isn't it?

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Wonderful.

Nothing like back to back insults. :tup:
2-year experience and then rejected? Why do you leave the second part out?
It's pretty simple. If he turns out to be great, Bayern will take the option and we will kick ourselves. If he fails to impress, he'll be back as a Bayern benchwarmer and reject with 2 year left on his contract, which makes it a little bit hard to deal with. The only case I can call us a winner is if he will worth around that 28m fee. I feel the probability of that is not that high
 

Hust

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2-year experience and then rejected? Why do you leave the second part out?
It's pretty simple. If he turns out to be great, Bayern will take the option and we will kick ourselves. If he fails to impress, he'll be back as a Bayern benchwarmer and reject with 2 year left on his contract, which makes it a little bit hard to deal with. The only case I can call us a winner is if he will worth around that 28m fee. I feel the probability of that is not that high
Why are you over complicating it? You think it would be hard to sell a 22yr old that we got for free who has already played for PSG, Juventus and now Bayern?

Get out of town.
 

Ronn

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Why are you over complicating it? You think it would be hard to sell a 22yr old that we got for free who has already played for PSG, Juventus and now Bayern?

Get out of town.
Left PSG for free, Rejected being loaned out by Juve to smaller teams to gain experience, and rejected by a big team.
Yeah I think we will have a bit of a problem. We can sell him but when the hype is gone, money will not be that much
 

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Only saw parts of it. But how they contained them is irritating, if only we handled them similarly in May. Actually found myself watching the Valencia game which was entertaining shame there wasn't much of a brawl. Rudiger is some signing what a steal.
We had no luck in May. Literally none at all.

Roma scored a once in a lifetime goal, on poor positional awareness by Ter Stegen. Luck.
 

Red

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Roma scored a once in a lifetime goal, on poor positional awareness by Ter Stegen.
I don't think Ter Stegen did anything wrong.

If you want your keeper to play sweeper, as Barca do, the keeper can't be holding back in case someone does what Florenzi did - he has to be off his line, on the front foot and focused on the space behind the defence.

Ter Stegen playing sweeper will prevent far more goals than it will cost over the course of a season.

That said, with super-aggressive keepers becoming more common, it wouldn't surprise me if you start seeing a few more attempts like Florenzi's against the likes of Neuer.
 

Martin

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I don't think Ter Stegen did anything wrong.

If you want your keeper to play sweeper, as Barca do, the keeper can't be holding back in case someone does what Florenzi did - he has to be off his line, on the front foot and focused on the space behind the defence.

Ter Stegen playing sweeper will prevent far more goals than it will cost over the course of a season.

That said, with super-aggressive keepers becoming more common, it wouldn't surprise me if you start seeing a few more attempts like Florenzi's against the likes of Neuer.
Are you saying this could be the golden age of lobs?
 

Red

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Are you saying this could be the golden age of lobs?
:boh:

I think one could make a legitimate argument for it being worth trying them more often.

Even if you were to attempt them more with a view to tryingto keep the goalie back and prevent him being quite as aggressive in playing sweeper, rather than really attempting lobs because you think there is much chance of scoring.
 
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