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[CL] Champions League 2015/2016 (64 Viewers)
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I am confident, it wont be easy but they will be too overconfident and complacent, I would have been more afraid of how we approach ourselves against team like Arsenal, Zenit, Benfica. With Bayern, we know what we are up against, and I think Pep sucks anyway, we have got the better coach, I just hope our player shows up and does not make any mistakes during both games.
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we were talking midfielders.
*Robben, Costa, Müller aren't midfielders.
...Martinez plays CB when he plays.
*why compare müller with pogba
*we play a midfield 3 at the moment,
so it is Marchisio-Pogba-Khedira vs. Vidal-Alonso-Thiago
and i just dont see why their 3 are supposed to be so much better than ours.
Marchisio > Xabi (we are in 2015)
Pogba = Thiago
Khedira < Vidal
also you dont have to compare the entire squad because you are only allowed
to field 11 players at once. i dont care how good götze looks on the bench.
and why didnt i mention lewa? because i agree with you.
*Robben, Costa, Müller aren't midfielders.
...Martinez plays CB when he plays.
*why compare müller with pogba
*we play a midfield 3 at the moment,
so it is Marchisio-Pogba-Khedira vs. Vidal-Alonso-Thiago
and i just dont see why their 3 are supposed to be so much better than ours.
Marchisio > Xabi (we are in 2015)
Pogba = Thiago
Khedira < Vidal
also you dont have to compare the entire squad because you are only allowed
to field 11 players at once. i dont care how good götze looks on the bench.
and why didnt i mention lewa? because i agree with you.
Robben plays out wide in midfield and pushes forwards like a winger.
Costa plays Attacking Mid, same with Muller.
And Martinez plays a defensive midfield as well as CB.
What are you on about, seriously? lol
On paper the current squad is definitely better in attack but there is no comparing the quality of midfield and the old squad was slightly better in defense. Pirlo was at his best in 2012 as was Vidal. In defense you had a younger world class Chiellini and Barzagli and Licht was at his best too. Asamoah was our wingback in 2012 not peluso.
Performance wise, there is no comparing the two teams, in both Serie A and in Europe upto that stage. The current squad is not last year's squad. The defense is the same but almost all the attacking players are new. If they had the same confidence and Character as last year's squad we would have been much higher in Serie A and would have led our group in the CL.
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We are arguably equal to them in defense at best. Lahm and Alaba are better than our fullbacks by a margin. Ben Atia is world class and Boetang is not a bad defender at all. Neuer is also superior to Buffon at this age.
They have an infinitely better midfield. Thiago, Alonso, Vidal, Martinez, Gotze.
Attackers they have Robben, Ribery, Costa all of which are brilliant and world class. Lewandowski ofcourse is one of the best strikers in the world if not the best after the barca trio and ronaldo. Morata is not anywhere close to him. The same applies to Muller ofcourse.
Bayern's bench is a lot better than ours. and their coach is much more experienced at the highest level than Allegri and has won the damn trophy twice before.
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We beat Celtic 2-0 and 3-0 man, 5-0 on aggregate. We dont have such a result against any other team. We also thrashed Chelsea 3-0. You seem to have forgotten what kind of momentum we had back then. We are definitely far more shaky now than we used to in 2012.
Performance wise, there is no comparing the two teams, in both Serie A and in Europe upto that stage. The current squad is not last year's squad. The defense is the same but almost all the attacking players are new. If they had the same confidence and Character as last year's squad we would have been much higher in Serie A and would have led our group in the CL.
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Goalkeeper
Juventus > Bayern
Defense
Juventus > Bayern
CM
Juventus > Bayern
AM
Bayern > Juventus
Forwards
Bayern = Juventus
Coach
Juventus >> Bayern
We outclass them on almost all positions thus we will clearly win and advance into QF.
Juventus > Bayern
Defense
Juventus > Bayern
CM
Juventus > Bayern
AM
Bayern > Juventus
Forwards
Bayern = Juventus
Coach
Juventus >> Bayern
We outclass them on almost all positions thus we will clearly win and advance into QF.
They have an infinitely better midfield. Thiago, Alonso, Vidal, Martinez, Gotze.
Attackers they have Robben, Ribery, Costa all of which are brilliant and world class. Lewandowski ofcourse is one of the best strikers in the world if not the best after the barca trio and ronaldo. Morata is not anywhere close to him. The same applies to Muller ofcourse.
Bayern's bench is a lot better than ours. and their coach is much more experienced at the highest level than Allegri and has won the damn trophy twice before.
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We beat Celtic 2-0 and 3-0 man, 5-0 on aggregate. We dont have such a result against any other team. We also thrashed Chelsea 3-0. You seem to have forgotten what kind of momentum we had back then. We are definitely far more shaky now than we used to in 2012.
Infinitely better midfield? Let's not exaggerate. That's ridiculous. A midfield 3 of Khedira/Sturaro-Marchisio-Pogba is very close to their starting midfield 3. And if Pogba gets into top form is potentially better. And currently Marchisio>Alonso and it's not all that close.
The only place they are infinitely better is in attack.
The only place they are infinitely better is in attack.
“Juventus have a very clever side,” Muller acknowledged, speaking to UEFA’s official website.
“And, of course, in Mario Mandžukić a top goalscorer, who we know very well from his time in Munich.
“In the Champions League, we have always had good experiences with Juve.
“I am especially looking forward to the Juventus Stadium – it will be a real occasion.”
@lgorTudor
“And, of course, in Mario Mandžukić a top goalscorer, who we know very well from his time in Munich.
“In the Champions League, we have always had good experiences with Juve.
“I am especially looking forward to the Juventus Stadium – it will be a real occasion.”
@lgorTudor
disgusting poodle
Get over it. You were wrong again.
And Costa has been fucking brilliant for them. That's not an overreaction at all.
Forget they said those fucking clowns are equal to Leo, you don't disrespect Gigi like that. Fucking dolts. I wish Sturaro can be useful for once and step on Muller's face.
And Costa has been fucking brilliant for them. That's not an overreaction at all.
Bayern Fans 
three direct comparisons :
3-0-0 and 8 : 1 Goals ...
good old Gigi loves to fuck up against us . out of 8 goals 4 were his fault... We should never forget that we have the much better keeper.
...sorry, it is your forum, but reading in here someone could think
youll be playing against frankfurt...
no, its not frankfurt, because against juventus we will score.
no one fears juventus, if everyone is fit we have the way better squad.
Bonucci top 5? i dont know. there are a lot a CB who are equally strong
like stones, koscielny, matip, nastasic, vertonghen, alderweireld,
van dijk...just to name a few.
@lgorTudor @Klin I HATE BAYERN FANS. ARROGANT IDIOTS. the Bonucci diss 
three direct comparisons :
3-0-0 and 8 : 1 Goals ...
good old Gigi loves to fuck up against us . out of 8 goals 4 were his fault... We should never forget that we have the much better keeper.
...sorry, it is your forum, but reading in here someone could think
youll be playing against frankfurt...
no, its not frankfurt, because against juventus we will score.
no one fears juventus, if everyone is fit we have the way better squad.
Bonucci top 5? i dont know. there are a lot a CB who are equally strong
like stones, koscielny, matip, nastasic, vertonghen, alderweireld,
van dijk...just to name a few.
@lgorTudor @Klin
I HATE BAYERN FANS. ARROGANT IDIOTS. the Bonucci diss
Bayern Fans
three direct comparisons :
3-0-0 and 8 : 1 Goals ...
good old Gigi loves to fuck up against us . out of 8 goals 4 were his fault... We should never forget that we have the much better keeper.
...sorry, it is your forum, but reading in here someone could think
youll be playing against frankfurt...
no, its not frankfurt, because against juventus we will score.
no one fears juventus, if everyone is fit we have the way better squad.
Bonucci top 5? i dont know. there are a lot a CB who are equally strong
like stones, koscielny, matip, nastasic, vertonghen, alderweireld,
van dijk...just to name a few.
three direct comparisons :
3-0-0 and 8 : 1 Goals ...
good old Gigi loves to fuck up against us . out of 8 goals 4 were his fault... We should never forget that we have the much better keeper.
...sorry, it is your forum, but reading in here someone could think
youll be playing against frankfurt...
no, its not frankfurt, because against juventus we will score.
no one fears juventus, if everyone is fit we have the way better squad.
Bonucci top 5? i dont know. there are a lot a CB who are equally strong
like stones, koscielny, matip, nastasic, vertonghen, alderweireld,
van dijk...just to name a few.
Marchisio as regista is more suited to play against high pressing sides, like Bayern, Pogba is better than Marchisio as a b2b mid and Sturraro is worse than Vidal. I'd think that currrent midfield is superior to the ones we fielded against Bayern 3 years ago. Asamoah was benched in the 2nd part of the 2012/13 season and Peluso would usually start our CL games, like the one against Bayern away. Previously he had started the games against Celtic... So it's between Sandro or Peluso and that's not a difficult choice.
It simply doesn't matter what happened few months ago, we already pointed it out back then that current team will need more time before we get back on the right track. We're now force to be reckoned with and after 6 consecutive wins we've jumped back to title race. As expected. Also in terms of mentality Juve has massively improved over the years and we're more experienced. Not to forget that we have better coach now. There's no comparison between the two sides imho, neither from a technical or tactical point of view.
It simply doesn't matter what happened few months ago, we already pointed it out back then that current team will need more time before we get back on the right track. We're now force to be reckoned with and after 6 consecutive wins we've jumped back to title race. As expected. Also in terms of mentality Juve has massively improved over the years and we're more experienced. Not to forget that we have better coach now. There's no comparison between the two sides imho, neither from a technical or tactical point of view.
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