It's not a given that they'll beat Bayer at home. They might beat BATE, but wouldn't shock me if they fucked that game up too. This is Roma we are talking about.
Chelsea won't come in fourth and I'd rather them come in second cuz if there third they would likely go further in europa league than champions league and pick up less coefficient points
A draw away to Leverkusen is not that bad considering the group. barca will win all their matches and the three teams left will fight for one spot. Basically Roma and Bayer fighting for that spot and Roma getting a point from Germany is a huge advantage for them,.
Context. A draw is crap when you're leading 4-2 with less than 10 minutes, and a win would basically smooth the path to 2nd place in the group.
Leverkusen still gets Barca at home, a team they barely lost to away... Roma has to win against both Bayer and BATE to qualify. Something they haven't shown any ability to do yet.
Yup true. Ever since the second half of last season, we started playing in a more pragmatic way against the big teams, none of that possession football anymore, we're simply not good enough to pull that off, especially against the bigger teams. Now we started playing a style that depends a lot more on counter attacks; we did the same against United recently.
But it was indeed a perfectly executed gameplan, on our day we can be quite good.
What logic are you talking about? And be sure of Juve winning, in then it is what you believe will happen just as what I believe will happen. When I say I am sure Roma will win against Bayer at home it does not mean they will do in reality; it only means that I am sure of MY prediction.