[CL] Champions League 2014/15 (36 Viewers)

[swag]

? over athletic bilbao or atletico madrid? because if it is the latter you loco

He seriously can't be saying Atletico Madrid are easier to face then Porto or Benfica???

I like that Greg agreed with him because he has such a hard on for all things Portuguese

No. I was thinking Atletico Madrid. I don't see them coming close to what they did last season. They are also missing their two most important players from last year.

Greizman is good, but not WC. At least yet. Hard to say how Mandzukic will fit in yet. But Luis is also gone.

They're not pushovers, but then neither was Benfica last season for Juve.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

No. I was thinking Atletico Madrid. I don't see them coming close to what they did last season. They are also missing their two most important players from last year.

They're not pushovers, but then neither was Benfica last season for Juve.

they recruited really well and they just beat real over 2 legs, not even fair to compare benfica/porto with atletico at this point

 

[Zacheryah]

Loot? Cuz he's black?

Are you implying black correlates to looting ?

Thats racist as far as i know

 

[swag]

they recruited really well and they just beat real over 2 legs, not even fair to compare benfica/porto with atletico at this point

They've peaked. I can only see them going down from here.

 

[Ocelot]

I honestly dont give a fuck about what you or voller think about it.

I tought Napoli had played Athletico for some reason, wich is offcourse not true since they were qualified for the groupround

And yes, I prefer Athletico Madrid over Benfica and Porto.

Go ahead, trow a party and loot some

But why? Athletico was in the CL final last year and would have won if the game had been just a few seconds shorter, and came up on top against Real and Barca in the league.

They've lost Costa and Courtouis, but added Mandzukic, Griezman, and a few interesting lesser known talents and are just about as dangerous as last year.


Porto and Benfica are clearly inferior teams.

 

[Osman]

Why?

Porto are simply mediocre as you come right now, not an effective shift as usual in finding future quality exports as before in replacing their profitable player sales. Best player is an underwhelming Martinez supported by a midfield of long shot hopes (only Herrera quality), sold Mangala who was super key in defence.

Benfica, I saw them in Emirates Cup, I can't stress enough how laughably bad they were, absolutely decimated as a club this summer, they have like 3 good players left (4 If Enzo stays, doubtful) , way top many green youngsters signed and horrid defence .

Atletico we shouldn't need to mention what an annoyingly formidable team they are tactically, physically and quality wise. Historic season and they covered their departures rather well with Mandzukic, Siqueira, Oblak and Griezmann. Their biggest loss is your countryman, but otherwise they did a good job of adding quality to an already exceptionally build team.

So tell me, how are the Portuguese harder opponents then them?

 

[Zacheryah]

No. I was thinking Atletico Madrid. I don't see them coming close to what they did last season. They are also missing their two most important players from last year.

Greizman is good, but not WC. At least yet. Hard to say how Mandzukic will fit in yet. But Luis is also gone.

They're not pushovers, but then neither was Benfica last season for Juve.

I follow along these lines

Both Benfica and Porto would be motivated as hell in this group against us, whilst Athletico is weaker and in its "after year
Furthermore, we were the better team when Benfica beat us and the players will sadly remember that

Its simple really, the team will be ALOT more motivated to play a less motivated (compared to last year) and less confident Athletico Madrid,
Whilst we'll easely underestimate Benfica or Porto, who will be motivated to the max.

Yeah, i'll take athletico madrid over those two.

 

[swag]

Porto and Benfica have generally more stability at key positions. You lose your two top WC players in one season, I don't care how much you fancy the future of their replacement prospects.

And Atletico last year completely overachieved. Porto and Benfica did not. This is as good as a scenario as you get for a an overachieving club coming down back to earth ... short of losing Simeone.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Why?

Porto are simply mediocre as you come right now, not an effective shift as usual in finding future quality exports as before in replacing their profitable player sales. Best player is an underwhelming Martinez supported by a midfield of long shot hopes (only Herrera quality), sold Mangala who was super key in defence.

Benfica, I saw them in Emirates Cup, I can't stress enough how laughably bad they were, absolutely decimated as a club this summer, they have like 3 good players left (4 If Enzo stays, doubtful) , way top many green youngsters signed and horrid defence .

Atletico we shouldn't need to mention what an annoyingly formidable team they are tactically, physically and quality wise. Historic season and they covered their departures rather well with Mandzukic, Siqueira, Oblak and Griezmann. Their biggest loss is your countryman, but otherwise they did a good job of adding quality to an already exceptionally build team.

So tell me, how are the Portuguese harder opponents then them?

exactly how i described them

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I follow along these lines

Both Benfica and Porto would be motivated as hell in this group against us, whilst Athletico is weaker and in its "after year
Furthermore, we were the better team when Benfica beat us and the players will sadly remember that

Its simple really, the team will be ALOT more motivated to play a less motivated (compared to last year) and less confident Athletico Madrid,
Whilst we'll easely underestimate Benfica or Porto, who will be motivated to the max.

Yeah, i'll take athletico madrid over those two.

oh come on

 

[Osman]

No. I was thinking Atletico Madrid. I don't see them coming close to what they did last season. They are also missing their two most important players from last year.

Greizman is good, but not WC. At least yet. Hard to say how Mandzukic will fit in yet. But Luis is also gone.

They're not pushovers, but then neither was Benfica last season for Juve.

It's fair point to say they won't be as good as last season, meteoric high for them last season, even if they schooling Real tactically just recently and winning another title should say something. But seriously I get the reservation of this season possibly being back to Earth one for them, hard to have the same kind of insane motivation and drive they did last. But to say the two Portuguese clubs are in weaker state then ever in quite a while, are better then the club that bested basically every top team it faced this year except for Real (who they were 7 mins away from winning CL title against), is simply just not based on any logical sense whatsoever.

 

[Osman]

I follow along these lines

Both Benfica and Porto would be motivated as hell in this group against us, whilst Athletico is weaker and in its "after year
Furthermore, we were the better team when Benfica beat us and the players will sadly remember that

Its simple really, the team will be ALOT more motivated to play a less motivated (compared to last year) and less confident Athletico Madrid,
Whilst we'll easely underestimate Benfica or Porto, who will be motivated to the max.

Yeah, i'll take athletico madrid over those two.

You are a joke with this post, you would have been better off pretending you meant bilbao.

 

[Klovn]

Comparing AM with Porto and Benfica. Only at Tuz. AM are far ahead.

 

[Joe]

Any team from Pot 1 would be extremely difficult, especially for a team like us.

However I think we got a good pick still. We hit probably right in the middle of the spectrum in terms of difficulty.

Tier 1 - Bayern, Barca, Real Madrid
Tier 2 - Atletico Madrid, Arsenal
Tier 3 - Porto, Benfica

 

[Osman]

Porto and Benfica have generally more stability at key positions. You lose your two top WC players in one season, I don't care how much you fancy the future of their replacement prospects.

And Atletico last year completely overachieved. Porto and Benfica did not. This is as good as a scenario as you get for a an overachieving club coming down back to earth ... short of losing Simeone.

Have you seen Benfica recently? The opposite of stability, like seriously sinking ship kind of stability. While Atleticos set up as a team tactically is the very very definition of stability. They are so sturdy and hard headed balanced team they become quite boring to watch how well drilled they are. They currently have bench players that are better then the Portuguese clubs starters.

I give you Courtiois, he is amazing, even if Oblak should do fine, but they have more then replaced Diego Costa, Mandzukic is as good if not even better since he is more complete. atletico never had any issue in finding a top striker to build around. Griezmann IS a top signing, he replaces Villa who he is superior to clearly right now. What else is there? They have rest of their starters (besides Filipe, also replaced by a younger quality LB, signed from... benfica ), and added good depth. Most important is kept their strong CB duo intact IMO.

Doesn't make sense to underrate them to the point of thinking the CLEARLY weaker Portuguese duo would be tougher opponents.

 

[ALC]

Sorry Greg but Porto and Benfica are like two levels below Atletico.

 

[Linebreak]

Olympiakos will be another Galatasaray scenario.

 

[reallegends]

In what department do you guys think Atletico has advantage over us?Defence,Midfield or Attack?I think the teams are pretty much balanced with them having the superior coach and us having the superior bench strength.

Also,Tiago would return to Juventus after 3 years

 

[MikeM]

Atletico Madrid is one of the best teams in the world. A top 5 team at least.

 

[Zacheryah]

You are a joke with this post, you would have been better off pretending you meant bilbao.

Why would i lie about it.

We'll see how Atletico does this year.

And i was the first to say Real Madrid are gonna face issues when facing a strong organised team cause in terms of duelpower and ballrecuperation their midfield is a pathetic joke. Atletico is exactly that.

Lets see how they fare against a team thats also strong and organised. Juventus.

 

[Linebreak]

In what department do you guys think Atletico has advantage over us?Defence,Midfield or Attack?I think the teams are pretty much balanced with them having the superior coach and us having the superior bench strength.

Also,Tiago would return to Juventus after 3 years

Athletico's team works in Europe, ours doesn't.