[CL] Champions League 2011/12 (40 Viewers)

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acmilan

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Chelsea - Barcelona
1 - Goals - 1
1 - Attempts on target - 6
3 - Attempts off target - 13
1 - Corners - 8

Barcelona - Chelsea
2 - Goals - 2
5 - Attempts on target - 3
12 - Attempts off target - 4
10 - Corners - 1

Bayern - Chelsea
1 - Goals - 1
7 - Attempts on target - 3
17 - Attempts off target - 3
20 - Corners - 1​

They won because a) they scored at crucial moments in games, b) their opponents missed golden chances; penalties included, and c) some good defensive play in the latter games, most notably from Ashley Cole. Chelsea didn't neutralise anything.
of course they did neutralize - they neutralized the one thing that matters in football - the other team scoring on you ;)

All those stats up there show one thing and one thing only - Chelsea were good enough to win it and they bested their opponents when and where it mattered.
 

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Worst team in history to win the Champions League to be fair. Chelsea despite having a so called defensive game plan, were a joke defensively in every single game.

I cannot believe Napoli, Bayern and Barcelona missed so many chances.
Missed?! All games against Napoli, Barcelona e Bayern Munich were masterpiece by Di Matteo, watch and learn motherfuckers from UK, the power of catenaccio, Kalou as LM , Lampard as DM etc. very good job by Di Matteo

Undeserved penalty against chelsea, fuckin diver Ribery
 

JuveJay

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of course they did neutralize - they neutralized the one thing that matters in football - the other team scoring on you ;)

All those stats up there show one thing and one thing only - Chelsea were good enough to win it and they bested their opponents when and where it mattered.
First point is nonsense, agree on the second. Chelsea can't take any credit for the failings of the other team. If the opponent misses 5 open goals your logic gives them credit for having a player in the proximity, it becomes a nonsense.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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We'll be nothing more than passengers in CL.

We don't really offer something new to European football in order to surprise the big teams and we lack experience, a lot. The most we will do is to surprise some team in the first knock-out round. But every CL winning team has to start from somewhere and after 2-3 years in Europe we might be contenders. It's too early now.
 

JCK

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First point is nonsense, agree on the second. Chelsea can't take any credit for the failings of the other team. If the opponent misses 5 open goals your logic gives them credit for having a player in the proximity, it becomes a nonsense.
Who do you give credit to, Italy or Holland in that famous EURO encounter?
 
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A chance here and there means nothing - what counts in the end is that Chelski did enough and was clutch enough to make it to the final and win it. What good is a chance if a team wastes it? And what does that say about that team - are they good enough?

You guys have been riding the "luck" train like a cheap ho - no team is lucky enough to win the CL purely or mainly on luck without having their own merit for it, including Chelsea this year.
You keep mentioning barca and Bayern not scoring/beating Chelsea and call it luck, I call it a pattern ;)
Chelsea had huge individual moments. See Ramires scoring that chip against Barcelona and the pass Lampard gave him for it. See Drogba scoring at Stamford Bridge vs Barça. See Drogba against Napoli as well. See Drogba against Bayern tonight. See Drogba score the winning penalty. Just see Drogba. I've not mentioned luck at all, I don't like using the word. Chelsea were fortunate that on the night a lot of teams managed to screw up their opportunities, because I disagree with you saying they neutralised these teams effectively. Chelsea obviously deserve their merit because of how clutch they were, which is what you said. I'll give them credit for one thing and say that they defended their corners very well.
 

Gabriel

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@Nicholas, thanks mate, congrats on Juve's title (and city's). What would you like me use as avatar?
@king Mirko, really really random but, what do you think about Mladen Petric?
 

acmilan

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First point is nonsense, agree on the second. Chelsea can't take any credit for the failings of the other team. If the opponent misses 5 open goals your logic gives them credit for having a player in the proximity, it becomes a nonsense.
they can because it was Chelsea that contributed/brought on their failings - if that other team had an empty field to play with themselves and didn't score, then yes, obviously CHelsea can't claim credit for it but if Sanches, Gomez, Messi etc couldn't find the net because Cech or a CHelsea defender was there and prevented them, then that's Chelsea's merit not just Barca's/Bayern's demerit.
 

JuveJay

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BTW I knew as soon as Olic stepped up he would miss, such a bad option for taking that crucial penalty. His straight run up basically told Cech where he would kick it as well. Then see Drogba's and see the difference.

Great penalties from Lampard and David Lulz as well.
 

Alen

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@Nicholas, thanks mate, congrats on Juve's title (and city's). What would you like me use as avatar?
@king Mirko, really really random but, what do you think about Mladen Petric?
Don't you know him? :D

I'm not sure what to answer because I don't know why are you asking. He's an ok striker, but nothing more.
 

JuveJay

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they can because it was Chelsea that contributed/brought on their failings - if that other team had an empty field to play with themselves and didn't score, then yes, obviously CHelsea can't claim credit for it but if Sanches, Gomez, Messi etc couldn't find the net because Cech or a CHelsea defender was there and prevented them, then that's Chelsea's merit not just Barca's/Bayern's demerit.
But that wasn't the case in several instances, in their last 3 CL games, so I'm not going to discuss it. You end up talking about a player being 3 yards away rather than 5, and what a crucial difference it makes.
 
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