I don't know about that, but one thing you cannot deny is their superiority football wise, they have been dominating European football ever since Pep took over.
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People starting to forget about Calciopoli i see, Fuck Milan, Fuck the FICG, and Fuck the Coefficient.
People starting to forget about Calciopoli i see, Fuck Milan, Fuck the FICG, and Fuck the Coefficient.
From what I read everybody here was happy that milan got beaten with refs healpiing other team. But the issue here is the proportion and how blatant the help was and that this help is constantly there for barca to go through. If it were against any other team I think everybody here would be singing.
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Barca is hurting me by portraing football in such a negative lifght. By showing examples that such blatant cheating is ok. This think if not kept check will become the norm. I don't want that, I'm quite proud that at Juve we have very little if none at all of these incidents. You can already see it's becoming norm, by fanboys and neutrals sayign it's ok, barca is the best it would have won anyway, they are too god to be stoped without fouling and all bunch of lame excuses.
Since we are agreed on the football side of things, i too think they are an unprofessional club, that actively and systematically encourages shady behavior by its players and employees both on and off the pitch. They try and promote themselves as an ethical club that puts principles above economic interests, but in reality they have proven time and time again, that all they promote is elitism and a lack of respect for rival institutions(clubs). IMO as a club in general, they don't deserve respect anyway.
All that does not mean that football wise they haven't been the best team in the past 4-5 years though.
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$#@! milan, after the penalty I was hoping for ibra to get injured. It's not about Milan but rather how Barca are always gifted calls. If the refs did this for Juve I would be disgusted
@ Nesta's ratingYes, you're right in all those aspects. The worst part is how insidious and shady everything about them is. An example of this would be their sponsorship deal with the Qatar Foundation. On the surface this seems quite alright, as the Qatar foundation's aim is to "support Qatar on its journey from a carbon economy to a knowledge economy by unlocking human potential".
Yet, it is a semi-private, government-supported and in some parts government-funded by the government of Qatar, chartered, non-profit organization in the state of Qatar, founded in 1995 by decree of Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, Emir of Qatar and chaired by Sheikha Mozah bint Nasser Al Missned.
This is all very vague. What's more, they're supposed to be a non-profit organization. Non-profit organizations typically do not have sponsorship deals with football clubs worth 170 million €.
Yet, it is a semi-private, government-supported and in some parts government-funded by the government of Qatar, chartered, non-profit organization in the state of Qatar, founded in 1995 by decree of Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, Emir of Qatar and chaired by Sheikha Mozah bint Nasser Al Missned.
This is all very vague. What's more, they're supposed to be a non-profit organization. Non-profit organizations typically do not have sponsorship deals with football clubs worth 170 million €.
People are too confident of cycles in football.
I have a problem with the second penalty decision and the consistency in which it's given. Nesta shouldn't be tugging on shirts, but I can bet that there was a lot of it going on in both legs by both teams. I don't have any solutions to it, because there is no way it will be consistently given (the referee can't look at 10+ players in the penalty area at the same time).
I have a problem with the second penalty decision and the consistency in which it's given. Nesta shouldn't be tugging on shirts, but I can bet that there was a lot of it going on in both legs by both teams. I don't have any solutions to it, because there is no way it will be consistently given (the referee can't look at 10+ players in the penalty area at the same time).
Any other time. 
True it most of the time does. But oyu never see such things happening on consistent basis year after year for the same team. I agree that on footballing terms they were top and maybe still are, but how a lot of tough matches are won by them with referies crippling the competition right from the start is an alarming pattern which makes me thing that there is something behind it. How every news, sport media channels are portraing barca as the holy grail can't be a coincidence. It's what people want, and it is what powers that are able are bringing to them.
Always fallow the money trail to find an answer.
Always fallow the money trail to find an answer.
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